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Old 06-14-2019, 03:07 AM
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Mennonite Sorghum and Opopeo Amaranth.
The first because it's (sugar) cane and grain, and the second because it was recommended as a good grain (ok, seed) producer.

I tell people I like to "play with new things" every year, but I'm selecting herlum seeds to give away.

I have some field peas (eatable as green beans or peas) that "got their family through the depression" and have been passed down, and I've committed to keeping it going as the family doesn't seem to care. (Needs little water or care, looks to do well this (my second) year.

Sunflowers for the oil, although the pressed mash is good animal feed.

And the amaranth and sorghum.
These are both "primatives" so they don't need much to thresh etc, don't require much water or work, and I can grow enough to keep stocks on hand in case people cannot get seed one year.

I don't see this likelihood addressed much, but unless it's the EXACT right time of year... Farmers don't have seed (and if they do since most at hybrids....)
Both produce MANY seeds per head.

so after I grow enough from one packet (why waste money) and make sure I like them or they produce well.... I intend to produce enough each year to hand out of it should ever reach the point people cannot get seed.

Just consider: people kill the milk cow or whatever and make it through the winter.
But then they have nothing to make food with.

Veggies are all well and good, but you need calories.
amaranth is reputed to be good chicken feed, don't know if my rabbits will eat it.

And as to the title line:
I didn't put much effort into the raised bed garden this year, more or less tossed out the seeds and what grew grew.
Had some holes where I could put in more of both, and it's not too late in the year. (Barely) so I planted more seed.

I'm going to take these and like my perennial onions and garlic will try it make it go ferral... Should work with the amaranth anyway. so there's p!enty around even if something happens to my beds.

consider: what do you do once you've made it though a year if/when...
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:14 AM
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Our plan is for our kids and grandkids to come here as their BOL. We can all then grow heirloom seeds that will be needed in this area because everybody grows hybrids now. They will have to travel interstate, and Wyo could set up roadblocks to keep everyone from Denver from coming here. I have given the kids deeds to our property and will give then a letter stating that they are needed to help grow heirloom seeds.

The only sorghum that will consistently make seed at our elevation is broomcorn. It is useful as chicken feed. I've tried naked oats and naked barley because regular oats and barley are about impossible to get the outer husks off using hand methods. They will grow but are very low yielders.

I have a couple three heirloom field corn varieties that do well here, but can only grow them one at a time because they have to be grown in an isolated garden so they don't cross pollinate with other varieties. I have about settled on improved golden bantam sweet corn. It is the sweetest open pollinated sweet corn I have found, and it is very productive here. Last year we freeze dried gobs of it, and still had a lot get over ripe before we could get to it. The chickens will eat the cured corn, whereas they don't want cured hybrid sweet corn. I think because there is little starch in the cured hybrid. I have made good hominy and parched corn from my field corn. I have a good grinder.

I've tried lots of oil crops, from safflower to oilseed radish, and rape, etc but all are low producers. No wonder that oil is so often given a lot of consideration in the Bible. And they can grow olives in that part of the world. Squash seed, sunflowers, maybe nuts if my butternut tree ever starts to produce, will probably be our main but whimpy vegetable oil makers. We may have to raise some pigs, or trade for animal fat with our neighbors. We will also need oil or fat for soap making.

I can grow lots of varieties of beans here. Anasazi red beans lend themselves to easy hand harvest. I can grow lots of squash and have all four species so that I could grow four kinds of squash in one season in one garden without cross pollination.

Lots of other experimentation that doesn't come to mind right now.
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What do you use to mash the sunflowers with in order to extract the oil?
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I have an oil press from Leimans. I just ran black oilseed sunflower seeds whole through it.
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