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Hardly, those Class A's get about 8mpg on paved roads and I would imagine quite a bit less in the water.
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Hardly, those Class A's get about 8mpg on paved roads and I would imagine quite a bit less in the water.
I don't think MPG is a factor for a BOV....range however is but it seems most vehicles, regardless of MPG, have fuel tanks scaled to provide 3-350 miles of range.

Which should be enough for practical BOL but even if not you should simply carry as much fuel as you will need as any BO plan that relies on being able to refuel mid trip is extremely risky.

Now, if your talking a vehicle to get around day to day in the PAW, its a difference deal. But a BOV I always feel is for a one way, one time journey and MPG is irrelevant compared to the ability to take as much stuff as far up into the mountains as possible.
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Hardly, those Class A's get about 8mpg on paved roads and I would imagine quite a bit less in the water.
I don't think MPG is a factor for a BOV....range however is but it seems most vehicles, regardless of MPG, have fuel tanks scaled to provide 3-350 miles of range.

Which should be enough for practical BOL but even if not you should simply carry as much fuel as you will need as any BO plan that relies on being able to refuel mid trip is extremely risky.

Now, if you're talking a vehicle to get around day to day in the PAW, its a different deal. But a BOV I always feel is for a one way, one time journey and MPG is irrelevant compared to the ability to take as much stuff as far up into the mountains as possible.
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I don't think MPG is a factor for a BOV....range however is but it seems most vehicles, regardless of MPG, have fuel tanks scaled to provide 3-350 miles of range.

Which should be enough for practical BOL but even if not you should simply carry as much fuel as you will need as any BO plan that relies on being able to refuel mid trip is extremely risky.

Now, if your talking a vehicle to get around day to day in the PAW, its a difference deal. But a BOV I always feel is for a one way, one time journey and MPG is irrelevant compared to the ability to take as much stuff as far up into the mountains as possible.
Range.....

https://www.boatinternational.com/ya...ion-yacht--179

This one has a 31,000 mile range at 12 knots!
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https://www.boatinternational.com/ya...ion-yacht--179

This one has a 31,000 mile range at 12 knots!
Yep. I will never have one but I think nothing beats a large boat as a BOV if you have the money and location for one.


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"Once at sea and more than 50 or 100 miles from land, the ocean becomes a very low threat environment. Oceans are so vast that the odds of randomly crossing the path of another vessel are astronomically small. Post SHTF, few will be out wasting precious fuel motoring around the oceans looking for random prey. Pirates (including those wearing uniforms with numbers on their bows) always congregate near ports and will transit mainly along coasts. Near land, a speedboat can obviously overtake a sailboat. Get- ting clear of the coasts and gaining the anonymity of the open ocean is always the first priority during dangerous times.

In the event that a motor vessel with superior armaments does spot a sailboat and determine to attack it, the sailboat is going to be in a very tough situation. However, this “worst case” (and very unlikely) ocean scenario is no worse than being besieged on land in a remote rural retreat. The other big risk comes in port, when corrupt officials might decide to take your boat under color of law. But being able to cross oceans means having the flexibility to leave a dangerous or corrupt nation and sail directly to a safer place. Or leave a very dangerous state in America, and sail directly to another one. For example, during a SHTF scenario, a sailboat could easily transit directly from New York to Texas, while that same trip might be impossible by road.

A 40-foot sailboat could leave Florida, gain the safety of the open ocean, and next make port weeks later in Iceland or Argentina. Imagine how far a 40 foot RV, loaded with sup- plies, would make it on the inter- states after the SHTF. Not very far, with road blockages, check points, and ambushes around every curve. A sailboat over the horizon on the open ocean has effectively disappeared from the grid matrix. It can also reappear at the moment and the location of its choosing."
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I don't think MPG is a factor for a BOV....range however is but it seems most vehicles, regardless of MPG, have fuel tanks scaled to provide 3-350 miles of range.

Which should be enough for practical BOL but even if not you should simply carry as much fuel as you will need as any BO plan that relies on being able to refuel mid trip is extremely risky.

Now, if your talking a vehicle to get around day to day in the PAW, its a difference deal. But a BOV I always feel is for a one way, one time journey and MPG is irrelevant compared to the ability to take as much stuff as far up into the mountains as possible.
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As a former owner of a 28' Class A, I should have presented it as the inability to really get very far off the paved roads or around/through obstacles in such a large (height/width/length), heavy vehicle with limited ground clearance and traction. I managed to get my Class A stuck several times before switching to a 4wd truck and truck camper.
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https://www.boatinternational.com/ya...ion-yacht--179

This one has a 31,000 mile range at 12 knots!
Hate to pay for the fuel fill up on that puppy. LOL
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Hate to pay for the fuel fill up on that puppy. LOL
I think you just take it on down to some 'other' country where fuel is a lot cheaper. If you have to care when you own something like that.
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A 40m ice rated Monel 400 double hull motorsailer built from the bulbous bow and bulbous swinging bilge keels up to the tip of the sloop rigged mast as an ocean-going prepper craft.

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While that's damn cool, the ultimate bug out vehicle remains a light weight, four stroke dirt bike. Honda XR650L, Suzuki DR400 etc. Will go anywhere, on any type of gas, in any weather, up to 3 feet of water, and will fit anywhere there is 1 foot width of clearance.

After the Florida hurricanes, my neighborhood was impassable. I needed to check on my very ill father (who was on dialysis) and the dirt bike was the only way to do it.
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I believe pengyou was being somewhat sarcastic with the OP. He has shown that he is pretty practical and very curious about things not yet experienced. I think he also is well aware there is no 'best' or 'ultimate' anything for every prepper in every situation.

Just a bit of tongue-in-cheek, unless I miss my guess. Much as my post was. That 40-meter prepper motorsailer would cost ten times as much as the amphibious motorhome.

Just thought I would throw this in here so people do not get really wild and start the personal attacks on anyone that offers up a 'best' post.

Just my opinion.
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Ultimate bug-out vehicle? Obviously Air Force One. But most of us don't have that option.
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I had always wanted to add pontoons like that to a Jeep Wagoneer or Cherokee Chief.

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I had always wanted to add pontoons like that to a Jeep Wagoneer or Cherokee Chief.

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A rich person does it and it is a luxury vehicle. When I do it it is considered to be the most redneck thing anyone on the river has ever seen.
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I can take water up to the snorkel on the ole Unimog that's about all the sailing she can handle. But on more technical side I'm wondering how well sealed that thing is as far as differential ujoints etc and such.. After week of driving around deep water in Katrina I re greased ,inspected and changed fluids even though wasn't milky just to be on safe side. Add salt water and ugh.
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Amphibious RV?!? Amateurs!!

Just wait until I finish my BOH (Bug Out House) I plan to mount counter-rotating rotors ( so I wonít need a tail rotor) on the roof and a turbine in the attic. This way I donít have to hook up 5 semi trailers to my car to drag to my BOL...I also will not need to spend money building a structure at my BOL. For the record: I have an attached garage so Iíll have ground transportation when I get there too.

Iím not sure why nobody else has thought of this yet.
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