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I live in Nebraska, and I've started to notice a trend the last couple of years. It is a trend that I think could turn "red" states like mine, into potentially "blue" ones in the future.

We're getting more and more people moving here from liberal states like California and Washington. And they tend to be very liberal and left-wing in their views. Outspoken about it also.

They are mostly coming here for the job opportunities, together with the low cost of living.

Looks like the hateful homophobic, Islamophobic, anti-immigrant, misogynist, pro-Trump reputation that we have, isn't enough to stop these liberals from moving out here to "fly-over country".

I suppose it's our evil low-tax, pro-business, right-to-work business environment. That has led to a 2.5% unemployment rate, an explosion in business expansion and startups, and many large corporations moving here from the Liberal Paradises on the coasts.

Seeing the consequences of this "liberal immigration" showing up more and more lately. Recently one of the cities in Nebraska had to vote on a transgender bathroom initiative.

Have any others noticed a trend like this happening in their states?
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You sound kind of surprised that the parasitic left would abandon the desiccated hosts of California, Oregon and Washington for the thriving opportunities in the mid-west.

Socialism is a failed experiment, so those with money are getting out while the getting is good and moving to greener pastures. They'll try once more to build their socialist utopia before moving on again after it fails.
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Yes, Texas is full!!!! Don't come here.....
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That's why they're called Locusts. They leave their homeland to move into a new area, devour it and transform it into the same place they just left, then move on to new areas. Except for the Western Slope, Colorado was never (in my experience) deep dark red, but it's turned solid blue and getting darker blue all the time.
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Demographics are turning red states blue... liberals say all welfare is in red states. To an extent, that is true when you consider the Black/Brown and Blue cities within red states. GA is turning blue now and TX, MT, FL and other states are feeling the burn!

Illegal immigration is the lifeblood and future of the Democratic Party as are the blacks. Blacks vote 90% for Democrats and Hispanics 66% or so. THAT is why Clinton spent most of her time pandering to them and giving them free concerts... And this is why there is a 24x7 war against Trump. If he secures the border, deports millions, puts in E-Verify and does a massive welfare to work program, it will be Adios Democratic Party... forever.

I still remember the black CNN commentator saying after Trump won... "this is a whitelash!"
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That's why they're called Locusts. They leave their homeland to move into a new area, devour it and transform it into the same place they just left, then move on to new areas. Except for the Western Slope, Colorado was never (in my experience) deep dark red, but it's turned solid blue and getting darker blue all the time.
I've got a friend in Colorado who confirms what you say. In fact, he recently moved out of Colorado Springs because it was getting too "insane" for him.
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i read an article years back that claimed Dems/libs are doing it. If I recall, it was written by one of them. It is a goal. Ruin your state, move to another and then demand the same things that ruined the one where you relocated from.

"We need sidewalks in town- it's not safe to walk downtown." Even though there were no sidewalks for years and people could walk safely before.

"There is someone shooting guns near my and I'm afraid." Even though, the people shooting have ample land to do that in and it's safe.

"There's not a big enough street dept to clear the snow in the winter." Even though those of us who grew up there never had an issue with it. We either had vehicles capable of driving in snow, or we just waited and the roads were cleared soon enough.

"EMS takes too long,; we need a bigger one." Again even though, we who lived there never had an issue with it. We drive to the ER and if we can't, a neighbor will take us.

"The school doesn't have enough teachers and the schools are deficient." Even though the schools turn out a lot of great students.

So, they move to another state to get away from high taxes and then immediately want taxes increased to pay for what they left behind. It's a viscous circle. They want a little utopia not understanding they are just repeating the same things that caused them to bail from where they came from.

I actually had a woman, a recent transplant, stop and berate me for riding my horse down the street once. She thought it was illegal. I explained it wasn't. She said, "But your horse crapped back there on the street." I finally just said, "Well, horses do that. Ma'am, you need to go." Luckily I was riding a bomb-proof horse because she floored it and leaned on her horn. My horse just looked at me and asked, "What the hell?" We continued on our way without further incident.

I got more stories, but it's obvious that libs are not a good match in a rural community. They move into a rural area and then decide they need to change it. The farm next door has cows and cow manure stinks. The guy down the street has chickens and the roosters crow in the morning and maybe wake them up. Farmers driving tractors on the street- that must be illegal.

The libs have zero ability to go with the flow. They want everything their way.
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I've been watching it happen here in Texas since the Jimmy Carter days. They screwed up where the lived and ran, only to move here and try to repeat the process. You'd think they'd have learned, but no. I continue to see commifornia, New York, Illinois and New Jersey plates (and a few more from the NE). The inevitable is coming..

Back in the late 70's and early 80's tons moved from the NE to Plano Texas. They overran the place. Well, because of their bad manners and attitude, Plano became known as the "ugly city" and surrounding folks wanted nothing to do with it. After a couple of decades, that subsided, but I'm not sure why..

Already, 4 of the 5 major cities here have pretty much turned liberal.
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Only a fool moves to the country.....and then complains the cow poop from the farm next door smells and the bull has sex with the cows in public....oh wait....
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So what's your solution? Don't allow people to vote? Don't allow people to move?
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I live in Nebraska, and I've started to notice a trend the last couple of years. It is a trend that I think could turn "red" states like mine, into potentially "blue" ones in the future.

We're getting more and more people moving here from liberal states like California and Washington. And they tend to be very liberal and left-wing in their views. Outspoken about it also.

They are mostly coming here for the job opportunities, together with the low cost of living.

Looks like the hateful homophobic, Islamophobic, anti-immigrant, misogynist, pro-Trump reputation that we have, isn't enough to stop these liberals from moving out here to "fly-over country".

I suppose it's our evil low-tax, pro-business, right-to-work business environment. That has led to a 2.5% unemployment rate, an explosion in business expansion and startups, and many large corporations moving here from the Liberal Paradises on the coasts.

Seeing the consequences of this "liberal immigration" showing up more and more lately. Recently one of the cities in Nebraska had to vote on a transgender bathroom initiative.

Have any others noticed a trend like this happening in their states?
They're parasites. They ruin California and New York, then flee to the well-run states. Once there, they want to turn the good states into the states they left.

The same is true of any people who are exempt from the consequences of their actions.

We see the same thing with renters. Towns allow the construction of apartment complexes, and then the renters vote for every spending initiative under the sun. They then object to the cost of living and leave, sticking it to the residents of the town to foot the bill for the $4 million Senior Center that nobody in town wanted.

We see the same thing with Third World immigrants. They come here for a better life, and tbe first thing they do is try to turn America into Goatrapeistan.

We see the same thing with people from the suburbs moving to the country. They demand street lights and sidewalks and scenic view legislation, then leave because it's expensive, leaving it to the rest of us to foot the bill. They move on to ruin another rural paradise.

The moral of the story is that liberalism causes long-term damage that other people have to pay for. Fleeing to red states or holing up in the country won't work. We need to re8nstate the republican form of government, so that when these illiberal lunatics try to pass this nonsense, the r3sponse is, "That's not permissible here, even if we want it to be, so go pound sand."

The way to do that is for the individual not to comply with unconstitutional laws. They don't want to be challenged, so they WILL back down, or you will get to be the test case that kicks their ass. I do it all the time, and I'm a nobody. Imagine if we all did it. How great would that be?
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So what's your solution? Don't allow people to vote? Don't allow people to move?
Don't allow people to vote for things that are not subject to democracy. Here in the US, our governments arw forbidden to do most of the thinhs that they have become accustomed to doing. We need to tell them, "I don't care that 99% of the people voted for this, it's unconstitutional and violates the purpose for which our governmwnt exists, thay being to secure the rights of the individual AGAINST this crap."
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I've got a friend in Colorado who confirms what you say. In fact, he recently moved out of Colorado Springs because it was getting too "insane" for him.
It's funny to look back. Before the Californians infested Colorado, they hated Texans because we were coming in with our oil money and buying everything and running prices up. But once the Californians started, they suddenly realized the Texans made pretty good neighbors afterall. But in the end, California won and turned Colorado blue. Shame too. I have land there. Now I'm just going to sell it and start the dream over elsewhere.
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i read an article years back that claimed Dems/libs are doing it. If I recall, it was written by one of them. It is a goal. Ruin your state, move to another and then demand the same things that ruined the one where you relocated from.

"We need sidewalks in town- it's not safe to walk downtown." Even though there were no sidewalks for years and people could walk safely before.

"There is someone shooting guns near my and I'm afraid." Even though, the people shooting have ample land to do that in and it's safe.

"There's not a big enough street dept to clear the snow in the winter." Even though those of us who grew up there never had an issue with it. We either had vehicles capable of driving in snow, or we just waited and the roads were cleared soon enough.

"EMS takes too long,; we need a bigger one." Again even though, we who lived there never had an issue with it. We drive to the ER and if we can't, a neighbor will take us.

"The school doesn't have enough teachers and the schools are deficient." Even though the schools turn out a lot of great students.

So, they move to another state to get away from high taxes and then immediately want taxes increased to pay for what they left behind. It's a viscous circle. They want a little utopia not understanding they are just repeating the same things that caused them to bail from where they came from.

I actually had a woman, a recent transplant, stop and berate me for riding my horse down the street once. She thought it was illegal. I explained it wasn't. She said, "But your horse crapped back there on the street." I finally just said, "Well, horses do that. Ma'am, you need to go." Luckily I was riding a bomb-proof horse because she floored it and leaned on her horn. My horse just looked at me and asked, "What the hell?" We continued on our way without further incident.

I got more stories, but it's obvious that libs are not a good match in a rural community. They move into a rural area and then decide they need to change it. The farm next door has cows and cow manure stinks. The guy down the street has chickens and the roosters crow in the morning and maybe wake them up. Farmers driving tractors on the street- that must be illegal.

The libs have zero ability to go with the flow. They want everything their way.
You should have gotten her licence plate. She violated a just law forbidding motorists from spooking horses. That's one of the few corners of the law that CT actually gets right.
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I used to be able to shooting on my property. Then the land that curved around us was developed. Six new houses. Not enough land to shoot anymore so I stopped. One of those new neighbors complained our horses stunk. I tried to explain that we take good care to mitigate that and keep a clean property, but she wasn't having any of it.

And we do keep a clean place. We put down lime for the urine smell and clear all of the manure regularly. Heck, I don't like a stinky farm either. Not good enough for her. She went to the town and tried to make us get rid of the horses. Unfortunately for her, we are "Grandfathered" and have had a horse farm for 20 years.

Last I knew that family moved. Probably took a beating because the house market was down quite a bit then. You can't argue with people who buy a house without checking on the school system, who their neighbors are and what those neighbors do with their property.

It's like way back in the late 70s, they built a small airport in the town I used to live in. The airport got larger and soon there were corporate jets there. So the airport was that for many years. Then a developer decided to build a housing development next to it.

Within a year, people who bought those houses started complaining about the noise. One lady decided to run for state rep and her claim was she was going to get the airport shut down.

I went to her meeting. I raised my hand and she acknowledged me. So I asked her, "Did you check out out the taxes you would pay moving here?" She said yes. Then I asked, "Did you look at the schools and decide those were okay for our kids?" She said yes and asked me what my point was.

So I said, "You moved in next to an airport and didn't except noise? That'd be like me moving to a house next to train tracks and then complaining about the trains. Did you not realize there was an airport there?"

She didn't get elected. Be careful where you move to. Check out the area and figure out if you can live there. If you can't, don't buy that property.
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This is a function of population density and education. Nothing can stop this social shift because they cannot see any other point of view and do not understand the consequences of their actions.

The one true solution is to take education back. You are fighting a wave of ignorance. They will drop you to their level and beat you with experience. We need to create a solid education system that rewards hard work and has conservative values. There needs to be an alternative to the liberal run down schooling that dominates in major metropolitan areas or nothing will change.
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One of the tactics they're using is by moving distribution, manufacturing and other low wage high reliability jobs into these areas. In days past it was usual for major cities to be distribution and manufacturing hubs but the past two decades have seen many of these facilities relocating to rural locations along interstates, and bringing their employees with them via low income housing projects in nearby towns, and "housing restoration/anti blight" projects that revive decrepit houses and old factory buildings into apartments for hud recipients or corporate housing.

I've even seen billboards in NYC advertising "Come work for us in friendly and relaxed Hazleton PA".

I get angry about this.

The jobs would be great if they were being taken primarily by locals. They're not though. The locals are staying away because of the non English speaking work environment and all that entails, and the incoming residents are bringing drugs and crime. The opioid problem is worse than ever. We've got a new personality from NYC or Jersey being arrested here on drug charges every other day it seems.
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Yep, Texas is getting flooded with NY/CA liberals. They're moving in like crazy... the good news is, it seems that a lot of them are glad to be out of the commie areas and want to assimilate. The rest want to scream about how they're going to make Texas blue.

We'll see who wins. My bet is on the natives.
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