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I've finally started to solidify the list of contents for my bob. At the beginning I decided to use an old duffel I had laying around for the pack until I knew what I had to store, and then I would figure out what I needed in a bag. I've also tried out a few with different features, but haven't found my "grail" pack yet. I'm hoping y'all can help with that.

I've figured out that I would like something in the 45-55L range with molle webbing. I would also like to have a hip strap, but it has to be able to wrap around me at about 48 in. at the waist. I'm about 5'11". Internal frame is preferred.

My budget is about $100 for this right now, and i would be stretching to push it any higher.

Do any of You have any suggestions?

Right now my two favorites are the Condor 3 day assault bag and the Coleman etesian.
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Visit a local Army surplus store, pawn shop near a military base, or a DAV thrift shop and see if there are any secondhand military packs available... I've seen a lot of molle in these places pretty cheap. Inspect carefully and thoroughly before buying.
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As well as the above advice, I would also think of the terrain you're going to cover. If it is predominantly road think about a rolling back pack, thus you don't have to carry a heavy weight unless you have to. If your biking then paniers might be an option.

There are some great bags on Ebay.

Do remember a good backpack needs to fit you properly, so visit the shop to get the size and make you need, and then buy it cheaper elsewhere.

For me personally, most of my route is road so I've gone with a rolling backpack for the main Bob. For my every day trip bag it's a 10 Litre 2 internal pocket with waist straps and side mesh pockets.
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I have the snugpak Sleeka force 35litre pack. It doubles as my get home bag so it is always in my truck. Definitely the best pack I have ever owned.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...f_rd_i=desktop

Then there is always the snugpak rocket pack. It is the same pack only larger (40 liters)

https://www.amazon.com/Rocket-Pak-Sy...ak+rocket+pack

lastly there is the 70 liter bergen backpack

https://www.amazon.com/SnugPak-92191...ak+rocket+pack

All great packs at affordable prices.
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I went with a 5.11 Rush 24 for my Vehicle bag.
https://www.amazon.com/5-11-Tactical...=5.11+backpack

Not too big not too small and plenty of external attachment points.

As for a BOB I use what I'd normally go backpacking with as my model.
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I may be one of the few, but I use a Maxpedition Gyrfalcon for an EDC/GHB/BOB.

It covers all my needs, from our +35c summers, down to our -55c winters (things are added/taken out depending on season).

But I'm a minimalist; I really on my skills and knowledge to survive, as well as the few tools that I need.

I have a few bigger bags, but I have rarely used them in the last 10 years.

I am more often in the swamp/muskeg and tightly packed pine forests up here.

But I've learned to use less and use more (skills/knowledge).

Good luck on your journey!
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If you have the funds I'd say get it. For me it was one of the last pieces of expensive gear I've bought. Other areas were more pressing than body armor.

I have it but my goal is to never feel the need to have to wear it, provided I have a choice. None of my preps and plans would put me in a position where I may be getting shot at. I don't plan on moving around much unless forced, and I sure as hell won't be doing any scavenging in areas where body armor is a must. Remember this: body armor does not make you invincible.

I finally shelled out the dough and outfitted myself and family because there is always that chance I may have to abandon my little hidey hole and travel through dangerous areas. Or some other situation I didn't plan on or prepare for accordingly. Just never know.

Everyone's situation s different meaning what works for some may not work for others. I don't know what your plans are post shtf so perhaps putting a priority on body armor makes sense because of your circumstances or location.

If you really think your going to be taking fire, get it. If any of your plans are going to put you in situations where your likely to be shot at, get it.

If not, focus on food and supplies first. You know 100% that your going to need those items regardless of what exactly causes shtf.
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If you want to go lighter, don't use a bag with PALs webbing all over it. Then don't pack so much heavy stuff.

There are a lot of good bags under $100, even under $75. Just depends on what you want. Your dufflebag wasn't a bag idea. I think what most people find is that if they have the space, they use the space. So if you want to pack less, use a smaller bag.
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No idea how I managed that but my reply up there was intended for another thread.
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No idea how I managed that but my reply up there was intended for another thread.
I was reading that and wondering WTF? Have to say, that was some pretty impressive post screw up work.
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I was reading that and wondering WTF? Have to say, that was some pretty impressive post screw up work.
I was thinking the same.

Very impressive!
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As well as the above advice, I would also think of the terrain you're going to cover. If it is predominantly road think about a rolling back pack, thus you don't have to carry a heavy weight unless you have to. If your biking then paniers might be an option.

There are some great bags on Ebay.

Do remember a good backpack needs to fit you properly, so visit the shop to get the size and make you need, and then buy it cheaper elsewhere.

For me personally, most of my route is road so I've gone with a rolling backpack for the main Bob. For my every day trip bag it's a 10 Litre 2 internal pocket with waist straps and side mesh pockets.

I also prefer wheeled backpacks for BOBs as asphalt is the only way to make significant progress where I live. Keeping 30-40lbs of gear off your back and rolling on the ground as much possible just makes sense, yet you still want full mobility to hike it through the woods.

If you know how to skate, you can double to triple your speed/distance for the same time/energy expenditure. A set of larger-wheeled, longer-wheelbase speed skates start to approach a bicycle in terms efficiency, yet are easily carried over knarly mountains, and perhaps more importantly, are less appealing to bad guys (vs a bicycle, given shoe size and specific skill).

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I was reading that and wondering WTF? Have to say, that was some pretty impressive post screw up work.
It was intended for a thread about some dude asking about body armor.

Still no idea wth I did.

Your welcome for the laugh.
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They are not cheap new but i have found many camelback brand packs cheap at military stores or on post yard sales. My favorite small pack for the last 5 years or more has been a first generatiin camelback bfm in od green. Think i got it for 20 bucks at an on post yard sale.
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I would suggest investing in an Alice pack or similar

Note if you are anywhere from 35-90 min from home by road or rail you be better off camping out some where because you will be rid locked for escape..



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Not trying to be rude but if you truly have a 48" waist your number 1 survival priority needs to be weight loss and improving your physical fitness. Having a bag full of gear is useless if you're not fit enough to carry it.
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48" in muscle, not fat. Weight lifting
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I have a Snugpak Bergen. I love it. It fits a little differently than most packs though. It is a minimalist design in terms of pockets, and it does not contain the MOLLE webbing you want. The Bergen is lighter than the Condor 3 Day Assault Pack, and has about twice the capacity so no MOLLE should be needed. I ordered packs through Amazon until I found one that worked for me. If they did not fit, I returned them for free. There is no place around me that sells Snugpak backpacks so I could not try them on prior to purchasing. The Bergen I purchased was about $120 with free prime shipping.

Another pack I would check out would be an ALICE Hellcat. You should be able to find one of those in your budget. I do not know if the wait strap would have enough length for you.

I also find it incredible that you have a 48" waist due to weightlifting. If you are serious, you must be a mountain of a man. My question for you is this. How is your cardiovascular fitness? I have seen a lot of muscular men that cannot perform well in cardiovascular type of events. I work as a firefighter, and I have to develop my body for both strength and endurance. It is kind of nice to have good endurance when I enter a poisonous atmosphere wearing a small tank of compressed air so that I can make my limited air supply last as long as possible. Functional fitness tips mere strength any day.
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I've been a member of serious matching band for the last 8 years and jog in the off season. That may sound silly when asked about cardiovascular fitness, but that **** is hard. Haha
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And it's mostly muscle. I was crunched for time because I'm teaching at a band camp. I last measured at 44 when I was buying pants, and that was about a year ago. I haven't been keeping up, so I figured four inches would give me a nice cushion just in case.

On topic, the SOG barrage looks pretty good for my budget. And I still really like the etensia since I found one at Walmart for $60 and it fit pretty well.
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