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I know it has been talked about here before. The "my son is an Angel" crap that goes on when gang members commit terrible acts. For that member when anybody seems to commit major offenses. Just read the Indy Star this am found the famous quote about 3/4 of the way through. "my son was just turning his life around". She asked that people understand, her son was of course innocent, and she was suffering like them because, after all her son got shot also. (He shot 10 people). He is not in a gang like he is being accused of. (despite all evidence to the contrary)
Has anybody ever seen family of one of these individuals ever tell the truth. Like admit to pages of arrests, no job, dealing drugs, obvious gang involvement,etc. With these people so unwilling to accept the truth about their children. How are they supposed to help "fix" the problem when they think there is not one. Just venting as I get so tired of this crap seeing it everyday.
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That is the way our media plays it. They don't tell you the truth about any gangbangers or most other felons. Bet the media didn't tell you that this punk probably has a number of prior arrests for things like running drugs, aggravated battery and so on, right? The media wants its readers to believe that this guy is underpriviledged, can be socially redeemed and such so that later on they can do another article on him about how he changed his life and found (a.) the lord, (b.) religion, (c.) Christ or how to help other unfortunate people. It's always the same tap dance with the media.
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...or relatedly, when the media/liberal/progressives say the whites made him turn out like that.

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I'd kick my kids --- if he tried to go out of the house like that.

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Could you turn your son in and bad mouth him in the press?

Of course shes got nothing but nice things to say, shes his MOM.
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If my kid had been arrested a zillion times, kicked out of three schools, a gang member etc., I would apologize for being a terrible parent. Not saying he was an innocent victim.
I believe that a hundred percent. I have preached accountability from day one in my family. I would still love them, however we both have failed society period.
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...or relatedly, when the media/liberal/progressives say the whites made him turn out like that.

Wasn't this guy in 'I'm Gonna Get You Sucka'? He is in danger of OGing.
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Could you turn your son in and bad mouth him in the press?

Of course shes got nothing but nice things to say, shes his MOM.
Depends - how much am I getting paid and will I get to go on Oprah?
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That is the way our media plays it. They don't tell you the truth about any gangbangers or most other felons. Bet the media didn't tell you that this punk probably has a number of prior arrests for things like running drugs, aggravated battery and so on, right? The media wants its readers to believe that this guy is underpriviledged, can be socially redeemed and such so that later on they can do another article on him about how he changed his life and found (a.) the lord, (b.) religion, (c.) Christ or how to help other unfortunate people. It's always the same tap dance with the media.

That seems to be the way of things. Race is a non-issue for that behavior. A friend in Missouri had a coworker whose son is up for murder charges during a drug deal where the son and associate killed their drug dealer contacts for both the drugs and the money. The mom is still so convinced that her son is a little angel despite his repeated prior criminal activity.

Last I heard before my friend's coworker got fired from her job for running up thousands in calls to her son's jail at work (and accepting collect calls from the jail), was that they were planning to plead self defense, stating that the planned ambush and robbery were the only way they could defend themselves from the other gang during their drug turf war.

A lot has to do with bad parenting these days, but in the end all we can do is present the choices to our children, explain right and wrong, and hope that they choose rightly. Many of our mass murderers, serial killers and the like have come from good families and were well educated. It's not just how they're raised, but their own choices that they make themselves.

Unfortunately, most of the time kids are not forced to face the consequences of their actions and claim they are the wronged party when it does happen.

When I was a kid, Grandma would make you go out and cut your own switch for your spanking. Neighbors, if they saw you doing something wrong, would step in and handle the situation and then tell your parents. Today if you do something like that you're either brought up on charges or sued.
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Wasn't this guy in 'I'm Gonna Get You Sucka'? He is in danger of OGing.
No, I think he was in "Don't be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood"
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...or relatedly, when the media/liberal/progressives say the whites made him turn out like that.

The Eye Patch provides a mighty handy target.
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there something my dad used to say .. trash bleeds trash when it came to people he would say ..

i seen countless times when the person family members get up on the stand and say he was really trying to make a better life for himself and his family .. i allmost allways start to laugh for it the 49 other arrest for drug or gun or robbery arrest that he had problems with the system
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Could you turn your son in and bad mouth him in the press?

Of course shes got nothing but nice things to say, shes his MOM.
Me? No. No kids.

That said, my mom used to search my room for the drugs and weapons she was sure I was using. She'd also made it quite clear that when I ended up in jail, I would not be bailed out. Not if, when. Also made it clear that when she found those drugs, I was going to jail.

There were no drugs. I was an angry teenage boy.
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...or relatedly, when the media/liberal/progressives say the whites made him turn out like that.

is this gang sign for shoot me twice to get through all da bling? I wonder if his pants are on the ground.

Thats his sex-me look in case your wondering....LOL



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For the life of me, I can't understand how stereotype come to be.
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Maybe he can cut back on the gold and buy a more up to date polo shirt the 80's IZOD has gots to go childrens.
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The problem is in most of the Black community the fathers are absent, read there is no positive male role model in the family so boys learn turn to gangs for role models, and too often family-like support. So from the matriarchal point of view he IS a good son, but the direction his masculinity took is a different issue. It takes good men to raise boys into good men.
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That is the way our media plays it. They don't tell you the truth about any gangbangers or most other felons. Bet the media didn't tell you that this punk probably has a number of prior arrests for things like running drugs, aggravated battery and so on, right? The media wants its readers to believe that this guy is underpriviledged, can be socially redeemed and such so that later on they can do another article on him about how he changed his life and found (a.) the lord, (b.) religion, (c.) Christ or how to help other unfortunate people. It's always the same tap dance with the media.
It's so common now that everyone knows exactly what a suspect looks like if they say it was a "disadvantaged youth".
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The problem is in most of the Black community the fathers are absent, read there is no positive male role model in the family so boys learn turn to gangs for role models, and too often family-like support. So from the matriarchal point of view he IS a good son, but the direction his masculinity took is a different issue. It takes good men to raise boys into good men.
By the early 60s most black families were approaching the middle class quality of life. They were nuclear families, law abiding and attended church regularly.

The Civil Rights Act and New Deal welfare programs disenfranchised adult males and created the mostly government dependent black culture that exists today.

There are basically government disincentives to having intact families. This was by design and working very well (for a government program).
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My wife and I have an understanding, we love our daughter, but if she does the stupid s#[email protected] that we see on the news, tough love baby.

Similar story of mislead parents..

Just a couple miles from my little town, there is a cross with flowers attached to a metal street light post. The big kind of post.. light and carries electricity. Anyways, 2 teenagers driving a mustang (what a shock) lost control of their vehicle and, they didnt just hit the post, they literally tore the car in half. Kind of looked like a horseshoe on a post. How fast do you have to be driving? Pretty darn fast... Anyways, the parents get on the news, crying about how responsible the driver of the car was.. etc.

I can understand being upset, any parent would be, but lets be honest about our children.
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