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It’s time to end the prime time State of the Union address. In the past several decades, it has become a political red carpet spectacle. I believe this began when political principles started bringing “special guests” to the address to be used as stage props for anecdotal points of policy and has grown to point where the party in possession of the White House thinks they have license to belittle and berate the legislative branch, and in turn all of us. This year we have not one but five opposition responses.
This fails to serve the premise of the constitutional requirement.
Section. 3. He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient;
There is no requirement to present the State of the Union in person. Thomas Jefferson delivered written reports, explaining “it’s inconvenient to give a speech, it takes more time than reading and it robs legislators of the ability to think before responding.”
Think of the millions of dollars that could be saved each year by eliminating this annual political kabuki dance. Those political stage props don’t travel to Capital Hill on their own funds – they travel on the taxpayer dime, to include lodging and per diem.
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The speech is the product of mass media, first radio and later tv. Jefferson was a great writer and thinker but reportedly had a bad speaking voice and delivery. Now we rate leaders more on their acting ability than thinking.
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I'm hoping it's a roast.

Then the next 7 he can conference call in. That's the worst form of presentation in the history of presentations, right behind reading off the bullet points of your powerpoint presentation.

I'd write a letter, saying everything is fine on my end. NOW DO YOUR JOBS FOR ONCE.

I've never watched one because they are every thing you describe and worse. Actions speak louder then words.
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I don't care if the PotUS delivers his (or her, someday) SOTU to congress, but it doesn't need to be a great network superbowl-esque advertising opportunity and pundit pollygaggle for the 2 weeks leading and 3 weeks after. It should also be a REPORT, not a political grandstanding opportunity.

The one thing that remains constant - Congress will use it as a grandstanding photo op as it always does... those on the PotUS's side will have a gleeful standing ovation session as if they were in North flipping Korea, and those across the aisle will have a sit silently and pout session. And it's all... ALL... playing to the camera. Seen it with both Bushes, Obama, Clinton, et al... you think this will be any different? Or that it will be in the future?

How about this - since it's a report to congress - Videotape the report, put it on the private and secure congressional interweb, and provide a written copy to the media after it's posted to the congressional (only) web.

I can already guess how this one will go... as such, I plan on not watching it. After all - I'm not a congresscritter.
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Most of the so called news media will not televise it all. The FAKE news channels don't report things accurately since Trump was running. It has been shown that 95% of the news reporting is against Trump.

I refuse to watch those channels. Our oldest son has become Drain Braimaged by them. He cannot have a civil conversation without raising his voice and very wishing bad things on Trump and the Republican Party in general.

He is about to be shown the door if he keeps it up.

It has become an "Expected Event" people want to see. I don't care I'll watch Fox Business News Neil Cavuto tonight and get the details tomorrow on the FOX BUSINESS CHANNEL.
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When will it be on?
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How many tweets would the SOTU amount to?

At least only run it on one network and rotate them yearly. No reason to screw up ALL the tv programming.
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Follow your guts.

The spin will be potent and telling.

We are at a nexus.

The credibility of our premier law enforcement agency is in play.

This is no joke.
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those on the PotUS's side will have a gleeful standing ovation session as if they were in North flipping Korea, and those across the aisle will have a sit silently and pout session.
It never dawned on me that it is sadly similar to a dictatorship. “Dilly, Dilly…” The only saving grace is we do allow for a dissention without immediate execution.
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I think having 5 different Dims on display is a good thing. The more they are allowed to show how out of touch and down right crazy they are the better. More people will wake up to their lunacy.

As far as the SOTU address is concerned, Isn't it a requirement of the office?
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When will it be on?
2100 hours EST (UTC -5)
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When will it be on?
9 pm est
8 pm CST
7 pm Calgary time
6 pm Vancouver time

or 2 hours from 9 minutes ago.
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9 pm est
8 pm CST
7 pm Calgary time
6 pm Vancouver time

or 2 hours from 9 minutes ago.
Should be on YouTube eh?
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Should be on YouTube eh?
Live stream
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-s...ine-live-blog/

Probably a lot of places will stream it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exsOim0Lyl4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72iHHaiTA2k
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Yup, found a livestream that will be starting it in about 45 minutes.

Oh, just to let you know; I'm central time.
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Default President Trump's 2018 State of the Union Address

The president has just entered and we are about to hear him speak. Republicans giving a rousing applause. Democrats silent.
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I am looking forward to it.
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I can hear the heads exploding already....I love it.

Anyway, even though I support Trump, I wouldn't cry about a 20KT drop on the capitol right now. It's a target rich environment.

Sometimes a sacrifice is needed.
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