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Old 03-14-2019, 01:15 PM
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dam failed. destroyed the bridge just below it sherriff trying to evacuate everyone below it , during a snow storm.
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Preps will be tested there...that's some serious weather to be bugging out.
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First I've read of it.. Thanks. Flood in a blizzard I thought that scene in "Day after tomorrow" was a crazy thought until now. Hope for the best there.
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What interesting is it was a functioning hydro plant up until 2015 when Nebraska Public Power District turned it over to the locals. It stopped production in 2017 and they left it in place with the river flowing over the spillway. I wonder if the locals ever bothered to look into it's maintenance. It appears they won't have to bother anymore. I wonder if the Niobrara river will have low or high water level issues now that the dam is gone and they've lost the ability to control the levels up and downstream.

https://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/...dfd8a6188.html

It definitely broke.

http://sandhillsexpress.com/local-ne...s-compromised/
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What interesting is it was a functioning hydro plant up until 2015 when Nebraska Public Power District turned it over to the locals. It stopped production in 2017 and they left it in place with the river flowing over the spillway. I wonder if the locals ever bothered to look into it's maintenance. It appears they won't have to bother anymore. I wonder if the Niobrara river will have low or high water level issues now that the dam is gone and they've lost the ability to control the levels up and downstream.

https://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/...dfd8a6188.html

It definitely broke.

http://sandhillsexpress.com/local-ne...s-compromised/
It was a 91 year old structure like a lot of the infrastructure in this country.

Think of all the stuff built during the 1935 WPA. This govt gives out a lot of corporate welfare for tech projects and military, but bridges and such get ignored.
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I'm in the NE corner and this is not going to end well or soon. Gavins Pt. dam has just bumped up releases to 90000 cfs from 50000. Our highway was closed until yesterday. No travel is advised on all county roads. I know of 4 bridges that have washed out. The creek in the pics is only 50' across, normally.
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We had a dam for a small lake fail here several years ago because of rain during a hurricane. It took out the dam for the next lake, and the next, and the next.
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It was a 91 year old structure like a lot of the infrastructure in this country.

Think of all the stuff built during the 1935 WPA. This govt gives out a lot of corporate welfare for tech projects and military, but bridges and such get ignored.
If the dam is privately owned then they have the responsibility. If it's owned by the local government then they have the responsibility.

Was the dam inspected? When? What did the report say?

In PA even the Fish Commission maintains their dams. Those that have safety concerns but no funds to fix get drained until they have the funds.
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NPPD is a public utility. A pseudo government entity with elected board members. So you have local municipalities and private ranchers suing them to gain access to the water rights held by NPPD. NPPD deciding the 3MW plant wasn't worth the effort, ceding it and the water rights, and 2 years after they turn it over, the dam they operated for almost a century fails under new management.

It sounds like one governmental agency knew more than the other governmental agency and that the water rights they filed suit to obtain aren't going to matter this year anyway, since the ranchers will probably be flooded out instead.

Life is weird sometimes and what you wish for in a drought you start doubting in a flood.

NPPD replaced the dam with one new wind turbine at their new wind turbine farm. Much easier maintenance.
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NPPD is a public utility. A pseudo government entity with elected board members. So you have local municipalities and private ranchers suing them to gain access to the water rights held by NPPD. NPPD deciding the 3MW plant wasn't worth the effort, ceding it and the water rights, and 2 years after they turn it over, the dam they operated for almost a century fails under new management.

It sounds like one governmental agency knew more than the other governmental agency and that the water rights they filed suit to obtain aren't going to matter this year anyway, since the ranchers will probably be flooded out instead.

Life is weird sometimes and what you wish for in a drought you start doubting in a flood.

NPPD replaced the dam with one new wind turbine at their new wind turbine farm. Much easier maintenance.
A lot of times the locals want to maintain these dams for recreational purposes.
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This should be a warning to people like me. I often advocate for prepping to say in place. That does not work in all situation. One advantage mobile preppers have is their preps can be used in place or they can go. We should all keep this balance in mind when prepping.
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I agree palmetto, and while I do have the requisite "go" bags and some quick pack stuff it has me thinking of keeping a little more offsite.
I had that luxury during Katrina as I had storage in Kentucky since my place in New Orleans was small and couldn't hold all my preps and gear. But I've gotten complacent since moving to Tennessee and having all my eggs in one basket.
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That dam was a documented POS back in 2010...

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Some real engineering there... "let's create a slat between two posts and slide some boards down. That should hold the water back... LOL
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Some real engineering there... "let's create a slat between two posts and slide some boards down. That should hold the water back... LOL


Theyíve been using removable slats forever in irrigation or holding pond type dams but J.C. on a CRACKER I didnít think they used it for something that size!!!

How has that even held up until now I wonder??
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It's easy...you just replace the slats every so often...until the local gov't takes over and has no clue.
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The Niobrara River isn't really a big river. It's great for tubing and canoeing. Most of it's water comes from water seeping out of the Ogallala Aquifer, not from rainfall. So any dams on it aren't holding back a significant amount of water as dams go. Typical water depths range from 2 to 5 ft. The reason it's great for tubing is if you drink too much and fall off your tube, getting back on is easy.

I'm sure it's much deeper now as you get closer to Yankton, SD. They have the Gavins Point dam there about wide open so water doesn't top the dam. With that opened up, I expect the Missouri to start flooding more around here in the next 2 days.

The whole eastern side of the state is in a flood warning it seems.

https://weather.com/safety/floods/ne...akota-iowa-why

https://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/...f927cf63c.html
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There are helicopters flying all over the place now helping people. The local river rescue boat sunk on a rescue mission. There have also been a lot of roads and bridges washed out. With our potholes the way they are after the winter, road repairs will be expensive this year.
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Nothing in the major news that Iíve seen. Probably not important because there are no guns, illegals, or muslims involved.
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Just flyover country. Not important. We'll make do without the press anyway. These are the counties with flood warnings around here. Just an area of roughly 30,000 square miles.

Mills County in southwestern Iowa...
Shelby County in southwestern Iowa...
Monona County in west central Iowa...
Pottawattamie County in southwestern Iowa...
Montgomery County in southwestern Iowa...
Fremont County in southwestern Iowa...
Harrison County in southwestern Iowa...
Page County in southwestern Iowa...
Madison County in northeastern Nebraska...
Burt County in east central Nebraska...
Platte County in northeastern Nebraska...
Lancaster County in southeastern Nebraska...
Johnson County in southeastern Nebraska...
Pierce County in northeastern Nebraska...
Knox County in northeastern Nebraska...
Cedar County in northeastern Nebraska...
Saunders County in east central Nebraska...
Wayne County in northeastern Nebraska...
Cuming County in northeastern Nebraska...
Washington County in east central Nebraska...
Dodge County in east central Nebraska...
Otoe County in southeastern Nebraska...
Butler County in east central Nebraska...
Boone County in northeastern Nebraska...
Colfax County in northeastern Nebraska...
Antelope County in northeastern Nebraska...
Nemaha County in southeastern Nebraska...
Seward County in southeastern Nebraska...
Jefferson County in southeastern Nebraska...
Douglas County in east central Nebraska...
Saline County in southeastern Nebraska...
Pawnee County in southeastern Nebraska...
Sarpy County in east central Nebraska...
Thurston County in northeastern Nebraska...
Richardson County in southeastern Nebraska...
Stanton County in northeastern Nebraska...
Gage County in southeastern Nebraska...
Cass County in southeastern Nebraska...

* Some locations that will experience flooding include...
Omaha, Lincoln, Norfolk, Columbus, Beatrice, Falls City, Council
Bluffs, Bellevue, Fremont, Papillion, La Vista, Blair, Nebraska
City, Seward, Crete, Plattsmouth, Schuyler, Ralston, Red Oak and
Wayne.


https://forecast.weather.gov/showsig...2#.XIwC_PZFzcs
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