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Old 01-29-2013, 12:29 PM
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I just don't want to have to take the time to bury/burn or otherwise dispose of the decaying, disease ridden corpses of the unvaccinated. Waste of time and resources.
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I just don't want to have to take the time to bury/burn or otherwise dispose of the decaying, disease ridden corpses of the unvaccinated. Waste of time and resources.
so where exactly did you acquire your rabid faith in vaccines?

It is strong in you young Jedi......

It must keep you warm at night.... your belief that the magic needle has saved mankind from extinction...you do believe that right???......If it wasnt for vaccines we would all be dead?...an empty planet?
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Why are we talking about the plague and vaccines?

This thread is about Noro.
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No I don't believe Vacines have saved the world. They have however saved the lives of millions who would have otherwise died. I have relatives that had brushes with Polio, and a cousin I never got to know who died from something that is now treatable. Your non-belief in their use is comical if not criminal.
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you need to study polio transmission...........it is transmitted by oral/fecal/vector

meaning that when you clean up the water supply from being sewage(as in most 3rd world countries) to actual drinking/bathing water you reduce its transmission........so you can reduce polio rates w/o a vaccine.....

where ever you have sewage water used to drink/bathe w/ you will have dx......regardless of vaccination status
the oro-fecal trasmission is not only drink contaminated water, but also, for example, a shake of hand, and if, after that, you get you hand to your mouth, you still can get a oro-fecal trasmission (of course the other person has to be infected and his hand has to become in touch with his feces)
than tell me for what STRANGE reason, after the starting of polio vaccination, the incidence of the disease has dropped to zero? beware, i'm not telling that sanitazion is unuseful, but it's not our first weapon against this disease.
let's go on topic now, fortunately norovirus aren't deadly, unless you are very young, old or very sick for another reason. And if i'm not wrong, dehydration is the only enemy, with electrolytes losses
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than tell me for what STRANGE reason, after the starting of polio vaccination, the incidence of the disease has dropped to zero?
can you show me the data that shows the rate dropping to zero after the intro of the vaccination???
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this is the study http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00032760.htm
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I'm pretty sure I had this. I ended up in the hospital on Thanksgiving day. I couldn't eat anything or drink anything! I lost 8 lbs in three days, it was pretty bad! And after I drove home my momma and my brother both ended up in the hospital. There wasn't much they could do except give me an iv and some anti nausea pills, and something to help relax my stomach. Worst Thanksgiving ever. :[
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It's the vomiting that will severely and mercilessly dehydrate you. If you have diarrhea, the liquids you intake AT LEAST get to your stomach and upper intestine before they get flushed out. A little bit of time to absorb.

But if it touches your stomach then instantly comes back up? No time to absorb even the slightest hint of water. Do what you can to keep it down for at least a few minutes
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first..its not a study

second.... the polio vaccine has been out long before the mid 80's....you made a statement that immediately after the intro of the polio vaccine the rates dropped to zero

even in that link it talks about areas that can have low rates of polio that also are unvaccinated

Also how do you explain the ending of previous polio epidemics before the intro of the vaccine????

Polio tends to have a cyclic nature..it tends to run its course and die out....w/o a vaccine

Also do a little research into the re definition of polio after the intro of the vaccine.....rates decreased just from the re definition
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we aren't seeing crippled kids and kids in iron lungs from it, so I would say it has been mitigated.
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first there are references in the link that i provided, so it's reliable and second we do not have polio at all
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we aren't seeing crippled kids and kids in iron lungs from it, so I would say it has been mitigated.
The numbers of those folks were always very very small......but it made good advertising for the vaccine anyway

Again.... a definition change itself brought down the rates even w/o a vaccine

and ummm 9....you might want to do some research on aseptic meningitis(something that was confused w/ polio in the old days)..........its numbers havent declined since the intro of the polio vaccine..in fact they went up
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we aren't seeing crippled kids and kids in iron lungs from it, so I would say it has been mitigated.
why do you avoid addressing my questions about polio?
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first there are references in the link that i provided, so it's reliable and second we do not have polio at all
thats it ????

the references refer back to non studies...can you not see that????

there are lots of dxs we dont have anymore.........and vaccines didnt have anything to do w/ that

please tell me you got something better....
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first there are references in the link that i provided, so it's reliable and second we do not have polio at all
and your link doesnt support your claim that after the intro of the vaccine rates immediately dropped to zero....they didnt

polio transmissions from the actual vaccine rule that out too.....
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Problem with new Noro strains is that at least one is not stopped by the genetic mutation that make some people not getting it (Like me). I don't look forward to Noro in the future.

The other thing is that people think sanitizer helps against Noro. It doesn't. Has to be ole water and soap.
You can try only one of these powerful things.

1.Use a teaspoon of 50-50 vitamin C + MSM 2X a day.

2.No MSM? Use 3,000mg dose vitamin C twice a day.

3. 3-drops 3% food grade peroxide in a 6oz glass of water..bottoms up!
2X a day.

4. Have a water ozoner? Drink your ozone as much as you want until bug stops.

5. One ounce colloidal silver 4X a day or until symptoms cease.

Any one of these things is the things we have used in our home for freaking years to overcome bacterial infections and virus strains.

Do or don't....your choice.
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references refer back to non studies...can you not see that????
it's clear that you don't know what "lancet" is
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it's clear that you don't know what "lancet" is
its also clear that you dont know what an actual study is.....
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It's clear we don't know what this thread is supposed to be about x_x
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