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They tested different strengths. Then they drove them out to the Range as Targets. The company I work for does it.
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All real data on this subject is classified and will never be published. There is no objective information about it. All other sources are picked to corroborate what individuals already have chosen to believe. So the people with the strongest opinions on the matter are the least to be trusted on the subject. I have my opinion, and tend to lean toward preparing for the worst case situation as I do for most possible threats. Any less seems to me to be gambling in ignorance with my survival at stake.
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if you live in an area with snow, what will it matter? nobody will be plowing the roads .. so, you won't be able to get anywhere unless you have a snowmobile that can withstand an EMP … If an EMP was to come as an attack, my guess is it would not take place during the nice weather …
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Ok, a bit of info here; as others have said, an EMP will absolutely destroy modern cars. The tests were stopped as soon as ANY car showed signs of damage, because the commission couldn't afford to buy them all.

Hear it for yourself from the leader of said commission. He say they absolutely could have destroyed them- here's the link that I don't think anyone has posted.

Took me a bit of digging to find it again. I'd recommend anyone interested in EMP give this a listen. It's an interview with Dr. Peter Vincent Pry and another member of the EMP commission.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/empact-...er-vincent-pry
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At minute 47:30+
Cars were borrowed and could NOT be fully tested. As soon as something was starting to fail, they stopped. They couldn't afford to buy 25 cars/trucks to see them tested to the full EMP levels.

Around minute 50, a summed up quote is; 'Since we saw cars failing at surprisingly low levels of an EMP, the commission knew that we could have destroyed many cars, but couldn't afford it.'

Is rather chilling to be completely honest.
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if you live in an area with snow, what will it matter? nobody will be plowing the roads .. so, you won't be able to get anywhere unless you have a snowmobile that can withstand an EMP If an EMP was to come as an attack, my guess is it would not take place during the nice weather
It matters because as preppers we have snowplows, 4x4s, snowmachines, generators, stored fuel, etc.

There would be a monumental difference to a prepper wether an EMP destroyed small electronics or not. Many of us have already internalized grid resources and would barely even notice an EMP if it only effected the grid.
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best way to protect a new car from EMP is to buy an old car....
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Get a bicycle. Totally EMP proof.
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Took me a bit of digging to find it again. I'd recommend anyone interested in EMP give this a listen. It's an interview with Dr. Peter Vincent Pry and another member of the EMP commission.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/empact-...er-vincent-pry
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That was an interesting read, thanks for posting those.

Really mixed on what conclusions to draw. On the one hand the official report shows that the cars that were turned off had no effects all the way up to the maximum testing exposure. On the other hand, those were cars from 2002. 18 years later, the electronics are very different and could be more vulnerable.
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That was an interesting read, thanks for posting those.

Really mixed on what conclusions to draw. On the one hand the official report shows that the cars that were turned off had no effects all the way up to the maximum testing exposure. On the other hand, those were cars from 2002. 18 years later, the electronics are very different and could be more vulnerable.
The effects of EMP on equipment not connected to a long conductor will be debated until the cows come home. That or when people are finally willing to accept the fact that the debate on direct coupling won't be decided until the event actually happens. If you are of the belief that unconnected devices will be destroyed by EMP, you need to realize that it is simply not practical to "protect" a complex system like a new car unless you're going to completely disassemble it, bring it up to military EMP resistance standards, then reassemble it.
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The ***** System's Command and Control is now "Spaced Based". Japanese Navy and IAF are now "Tapped In" to it. This "Space Based System" controls UAVs also. There isn't much that isn't "Slaved" to it now even Arty ******** is now accurate out to 125 K. Any "Launch", anywhere on the Planet will be Swiftly reacted to, in Layers. Nothing will get here. The Trap for Gog has been set. IAF has their finger on the Button.
Been watching the Terminator series have we?
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Wrap the entire car in lead foil. Here is my car.

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Been watching the Terminator series have we?
Actually they either now have or will very soon have, hypersonic, maneuvering, scram-jet artillery shells with GPS guidance and a range of around 120 miles I think it was.

Can also be used to dispense swarms of micro air vehicle drones with precision.

Here is a Raytheon announcement. I think India already has fielded similar to these.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...uper-howitzers


I believe WE are the Terminators.

Anyone on the other side of an American battlefield in the future is going to be very impressed by the stuff that is killing them.

Oh yeah, and a 1000 mile supergun is being developed.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...s-what-we-know
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The effects of EMP on equipment not connected to a long conductor will be debated until the cows come home. That or when people are finally willing to accept the fact that the debate on direct coupling won't be decided until the event actually happens. If you are of the belief that unconnected devices will be destroyed by EMP, you need to realize that it is simply not practical to "protect" a complex system like a new car unless you're going to completely disassemble it, bring it up to military EMP resistance standards, then reassemble it.
Would make for a GREAT "Go Fund Me" project. I wonder if is possible to rent the Project Atlas "lab" from the feds?

https://hackaday.com/2018/03/09/how-...oject-atlas-i/

Chief Engineer on the project (drives "EMP proof" car)
http://ece-research.unm.edu/summa/notes/trestle.html
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If an EMP were to hit, it would take out the electricity. Without electricity, gas pumps don't work, which means you'd be limited to the gas in your tank.
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If an EMP were to hit, it would take out the electricity. Without electricity, gas pumps don't work, which means you'd be limited to the gas in your tank.
Many preppers have 12 V gasoline pumps that will lift gasoline if needed.
And generators that can easily power up the fuel pumps at a gas station.

Assuming the gas station owner is agreeable of course.

Not a problem.
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An EMP is a fairly simple thing. A moving magnetic field across a conductor will induce a voltage on that conductor.

A modern car electronics/computer is already fairly well protected. The one item that is most likely to fail is the coil pack/s; especially if connected to long plug wires. This is the one part I recommend to have as a spare part. I do not recommend storing it in a container that is conductive. Please don't wrap it in aluminum foil.

Don't waste the foil that way. Instead make a hat out of it.

Depending upon location, parts of the power grid are likely to go out and not likely to be repaired for quite some time. The EMP can induce a voltage on the power lines and generate a voltage that is higher than the dielectric withstanding voltage of the transformers. If this happens there is no simple re-setting of a circuit breaker to get the power back on. The transformer must be replaced.

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Ok, a bit of info here; as others have said, an EMP will absolutely destroy modern cars. The tests were stopped as soon as ANY car showed signs of damage, because the commission couldn't afford to buy them all.
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