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View Poll Results: Have you worn a mask during the "pandemic?"
No way! Screw masks, won't do it. 25 14.29%
I haven't had to yet. 15 8.57%
I wear them when I have to. 106 60.57%
Yes! Everyone should be wearing masks! How dare you!! 29 16.57%
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Other infected people--asymptomatic or not, knowingly or not-- transmit it through droplets emanating from their mouth and nose (as well as on their hands)...you got some other way in mind of how you would transmit it and/or avoid transmitting it?

This could really affect a lot of people, you know.
Continue wearing your mask for the rest of your life. I will not. I like to run...and so do a lot of people...so do you suggest marathons are ran with masks??? Ironman's ran, biked, and swam with masks??? What about the Olympics, football, basketball, high school sports, etc, etc, etc. I will not hide behind a mask because I allowed the media and so called experts who admit to not knowing all there is to know about this pandemic to scare me into being hypersensitive. The country has been quarantining for over 2 months now...so when does the 14-day quarantine start??? The answer is, never....that 14-day window will always be a moving target.
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The vast majority of people are too stupid to know how dumb they are. I work in the power industry and the stupid is strong even here where people are more informed. Most talking about "the grid" couldn't even tell you which grid services them.

The greatest fool is the fool that thinks they are smartest person.

The specialist in this event can't even dumb it down enough for the idiots out there to get a basic understanding. And really, there's no reason for them to waste their time. I've tried in my specialty but it's like trying to teach turbo machinery to kindergarteners.
And there are a lot of smart people out there contradicting themselves...especially among the medical community.
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I understand the logic of the mask in preventing inhalation or otherwise an introduction of this virus into my lungs. Were I a young buck, I'd probably say let's get it over with. But alas, I'm almost 69 and have a pacemaker.

I use a surgical mask when I am required or am in close proximity of strangers. It's a game of odds for me.
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I haven't worn one at all. I was in Food Lion a few days ago. I chose a checkout line with one customer at the register. I walked up and placed my two items on the conveyor belt. I was about three feet from the other customer. .... Again, it was a great opportunity to say something, but I am learning that silence is golden. You never know how a situation may escalate, and you end up on the evening news.
She may be smiling... but do you really want to crowd her?

And this guy is serious...don't get up his nose.

You pick a fight with them...you will end up on the evening news!

The funniest one I saw was a sports interview in French with the microphone on the end of a hockey stick. Come to think of it none of these people is wearing mask. Maybe you can carry a hockey stick INSTEAD of wearing a mask.
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And with all the stimulus money being given out for "this" pandemic, everyone is driven by by it. Hospitals are given money per person that is diagnosed with COVID, and those put on ventilators, and those with it on their death certificate...sorry...IMO I believe the numbers are skewed. And there is the matter of people who are put on ventilators with COVID but don't die from the COVID but from the improper ventilation treatment because we don't know enough about this disease to properly treat these patients with COVID on a ventilator. There is a difference between dying with COVID and dying from COVID.
Since they would not of been out on a vent except for Covid it would be accurate to say they died from Covid 19 or complications of Covid 19.

Sheldon would of known this.
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I am not a believer in this "pandemic" when compared to a normal flu season
That being said... I will follow the protocol of wearing a mask. I am not going to be counted in the following group

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I refuse to wear a mask. Wearing a mask can negatively affect your health.
1) CO2 does build up while wearing a face mask. This means you don't get as much O2 as you should.
2) Your body controls it's core temp by exhaling excess heat. That excess heat gets trapped while wearing a mask thus increasing the possibility of getting heat prostration, heat stroke and even passing out.
3) You breath out warm moist air. That creates warm dampness on the mask material which turns into breeding grounds for bacteria unless you sterilize you mask each day.

There is scientific research to prove it. You can look it up.
I am simply not going to put on protective gear that risks my health.
As I tell people that say I have to wear a mask: your rights stop where my rights begin. If you don't like the fact that I don't wear a mask, stay at home.
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I refuse to wear a mask. Wearing a mask can negatively affect your health.
1) CO2 does build up while wearing a face mask. This means you don't get as much O2 as you should.
2) Your body controls it's core temp by exhaling excess heat. That excess heat gets trapped while wearing a mask thus increasing the possibility of getting heat prostration, heat stroke and even passing out.
3) You breath out warm moist air. That creates warm dampness on the mask material which turns into breeding grounds for bacteria unless you sterilize you mask each day.

There is scientific research to prove it. You can look it up.
I am simply not going to put on protective gear that risks my health.
As I tell people that say I have to wear a mask: your rights stop where my rights begin. If you don't like the fact that I don't wear a mask, stay at home.
Let go ahead and say 1-3 are all correct. Just for a second...

So you're trying to say that being a little oxygen deprived, a little over-heated, and a moist mask is worse than catching/giving COVID-19?

Or, in other words, wearing a mask is more hazardous to your health than COVID-19?

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Let go ahead and say 1-3 are all correct. Just for a second...

So you're trying to say that being a little oxygen deprived, a little over-heated, and a moist mask is worse than catching/giving COVID-19?

Or, in other words, wearing a mask is more hazardous to your health than COVID-19?

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Went to the hospital today for a blood test to see if my agent orange cancer was still in remission. Had to wear a mask to get in. While the nurse was doing her work I asked how the mask could stop a virus when it couldn't even block the odor of her alcohol pad, a much larger molecule the virus? She got a puzzled looked and confided she thought we could be dealing with a bacteria. And that's the reply of a healthcare professional? I'll never wear a mask again
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Masks are NOT for the benefit of the wearer, but to protecting others by limiting the spread of the virus. They are not perfect, but not useless, either. All of us spray some saliva when we talk.
I wonder about the credentials of any "medical" person who disagrees with this.
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And with all the stimulus money being given out for "this" pandemic, everyone is driven by by it. Hospitals are given money per person that is diagnosed with COVID, and those put on ventilators, and those with it on their death certificate...sorry...IMO I believe the numbers are skewed. And there is the matter of people who are put on ventilators with COVID but don't die from the COVID but from the improper ventilation treatment because we don't know enough about this disease to properly treat these patients with COVID on a ventilator. There is a difference between dying with COVID and dying from COVID.
These statements are not factually true. You do not get paid for these things. Please, show me the form you fill out and submit to receive payment. Hospitals are losing money because of this pandemic, not making it. They all want it to just go away so they can go back to making 60k on a 2 hour knee replacement.
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Went to the hospital today for a blood test to see if my agent orange cancer was still in remission. Had to wear a mask to get in. While the nurse was doing her work I asked how the mask could stop a virus when it couldn't even block the odor of her alcohol pad, a much larger molecule the virus? She got a puzzled looked and confided she thought we could be dealing with a bacteria. And that's the reply of a healthcare professional? I'll never wear a mask again
You seriously think a single molecule made up of 12 atoms is larger than an entire virus made up of millions of atoms just in the out layer?
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These statements are not factually true. You do not get paid for these things. Please, show me the form you fill out and submit to receive payment. Hospitals are losing money because of this pandemic, not making it. They all want it to just go away so they can go back to making 20k on a 2 hour knee replacement.
That they are. One local hospital system in town here is loosing $30 million a month and has frozen all pay increases for the year. Their losses should ease as the money making surgeries are starting up again and soon people will be able to go see the general practitioners again.

I doubt there is a single hospital in the US that did better because of the virus unless it was a research hospital that was scheduled to get money for studying viruses and would have gotten it whether this virus happened or not.

If there is an incentive, it's to under count cases to get the money flowing again and stop wasting huge amounts of money on training, new operating procedures, and additional PPE.
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We have a bunch of N100 facemasks from construction work we have done. When we go out for groceries my wife has one strapped to her purse. So far nobody has asked her to put it on her face.

I carry a bandana in my pocket. A couple of times I have tied my bandana over my face. It is not a big deal.

I find it interesting that as this effects society, the 'new normal' will include that all of us can wear a face mask in public at anytime.

I am not afraid of a virus that can kill 0.01% of the population. I suspect the final 'death toll' will be equal to the usual flu bug that we see every year.

I am more concerned over how the fascists will use this event to modify our society 5 years from now.

One thing I am seeing ****es me off. 'Quarantine' means to isolate the sick. This is NOT a quarantine, this is house-arrest.
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We have a bunch of N100 facemasks from construction work we have done. When we go out for groceries my wife has one strapped to her purse. So far nobody has asked her to put it on her face.

I carry a bandana in my pocket. A couple of times I have tied my bandana over my face. It is not a big deal.

I find it interesting that as this effects society, the 'new normal' will include that all of us can wear a face mask in public at anytime.

I am not afraid of a virus that can kill 0.01% of the population. I suspect the final 'death toll' will be equal to the usual flu bug that we see every year.

I am more concerned over how the fascists will use this event to modify our society 5 years from now.

One thing I am seeing ****es me off. 'Quarantine' means to isolate the sick. This is NOT a quarantine, this is house-arrest.
Exactly.... quarantine is for sick people....not healthy people
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Looks like the poll shows 4 times as many members here only wear a mask when they have to compared to those who love wearing their mask....

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We have a bunch of N100 facemasks from construction work we have done. When we go out for groceries my wife has one strapped to her purse. So far nobody has asked her to put it on her face.

I carry a bandana in my pocket. A couple of times I have tied my bandana over my face. It is not a big deal.

I find it interesting that as this effects society, the 'new normal' will include that all of us can wear a face mask in public at anytime.

I am not afraid of a virus that can kill 0.01% of the population. I suspect the final 'death toll' will be equal to the usual flu bug that we see every year.

I am more concerned over how the fascists will use this event to modify our society 5 years from now.

One thing I am seeing ****es me off. 'Quarantine' means to isolate the sick
. This is NOT a quarantine, this is house-arrest.
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We have a bunch of N100 facemasks from construction work we have done. When we go out for groceries my wife has one strapped to her purse. So far nobody has asked her to put it on her face.

I carry a bandana in my pocket. A couple of times I have tied my bandana over my face
All of this happened in your house?
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I refuse to wear a mask. Wearing a mask can negatively affect your health.
1) CO2 does build up while wearing a face mask. This means you don't get as much O2 as you should.
2) Your body controls it's core temp by exhaling excess heat. That excess heat gets trapped while wearing a mask thus increasing the possibility of getting heat prostration, heat stroke and even passing out.
3) You breath out warm moist air. That creates warm dampness on the mask material which turns into breeding grounds for bacteria unless you sterilize you mask each day.

There is scientific research to prove it. You can look it up.
I am simply not going to put on protective gear that risks my health.
As I tell people that say I have to wear a mask: your rights stop where my rights begin. If you don't like the fact that I don't wear a mask, stay at home.
While some heat does escape through your breathing, it is not enough to negatively affect core temperature. Most body heat is displaced though your neck area, the inside elbow area and through sweating. These are the bodies natural fail safes to cool the body down. This is why when yo are overheated it is advisable to cool your wrists, the inner elbow and your neck areas.
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