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Hey guys. I'm obviously new here, but I've been researching long term food storage and am up to date on most of the basic techniques for doing so. I'm in the planning stages of getting my food ready. I have to acquire my buckets and pick and store the foods that I want to keep until I get enough to do a large batch so I dont waste time or OA's. I was just wondering if anybody would be willing to post up a list of the food items that they keep to make an easy starting point for me and others.

Here's what I know I want to keep(If you can help please point out specific types that may be better and what else I am missing):

1. Rice
2. Beans(types to be determined)
3. 1 gal Honey
4. Sugar
5. Salt
6. Spices(to be determined.)
7. Steel cut oats
8. Wheat
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Not a bad start. StarKist tuna and Spam make little single serving packets with a nice shelf life. Also canned sardines take up little space and are packed with healthy antioxidants (Usually these are a few bucks each, but lately I've seen them as low as .99). Jerkey is good, and canned fruits usually last a long time and will be a much needed boost after so much "hearty" foods.

Oh and jars of Peanut butter, even the cheaper store brands go a long way.

As I said in another thread, a few chocolate bars or a tiny bottle of whiskey will be a nice treat for morale.
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http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/11/30...ge-calculator/

...is a place to start.
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Rice
Beans (several kinds)
Lentils
Split Peas
Wheat Berries (need a grinder too)
Oat Groats
Potato Flakes
Dried Milk
Popcorn
Flour (yes, flour)
Spaghetti Pasta (or other types)


Salt and Sugar (but these don't need to be stored in Mylar w/ O2)
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You dont have to have a grinder to eat wheat berries. Really just if you want to bake. And peanut butter isnt long term.

I like ABC soup and lentils. Corn meal and barley also. Powdered honey just to put in the breakfast mush.
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Tuna and canned foods were another few things that will be going in, as well as a 6 gal bucket with supplies(matches, batteries, tp, etc) and a book of edible native plants.

What kinds of beans are yall putting up?
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i have been putting up mostly pinto beans. but only because they seem to be cheaper. once in a while i will pick up some dry red or black beans. i also get some of the canned beans. i know its not what you be looking to do, but i use them more as a backup i guess. they are canned, have a long term expiration date, and dont need to be soaked the way dry beans do.
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Beans(types to be determined)
1) A large part of the "types to be determined" ought to be trying to eat the various types of beans as cooked by the method you are likely to be using after the SHTF.

I'm not normally a picky eater (at all) but some varieties of beans, such as black beans, I never thought would be a problem turn out to be virtually inedible...at least to the point where I'd be reluctant to eat them until I ran out of every last scrap of the rest of the food. Every last scrap. And by that I mean every last scrap.

And other varieties of beans which I normally am not a fan of turned out to be just fine when cooked in soup (I'm thinking of you, lima beans).

2) Almost everyone forgets grits. Be one of the few, the proud, the grits-eater.

3) Potato flakes. I think of them as comfort food. Also very good in my opinion for thickening up what would otherwise be thin soups.

4) Its very easy to find canned fish and other canned meat products which are "best by" dated three to five years in the future. And that date is somewhat bogus because the contents will be perfectly fine for years after that. Canned salmon, tuna, sardines, spam, and such would be preferred. I keep vienna sausages for their portability and keep potted meat as a comfort food (though many people might quibble about how healthy those products are and whether they're really meat or not).

Again, I'd highly recommend trying to cook with any of these items right now and figuring out what's possible to do with them. Canned salmon can be surprisingly versatile (and I'm no cook). For regular spam, I find it much more palatable when its heated and stirred into macaroni and cheese which hides that fresh from the can flavor. With turkey Spam, I like it so much that I keep finding excuses to open a can right now to the point that I'm not sure I get enough to keep a stockpile of it.

When shopping through the store next time, buy a can of each of their canned meat products (no matter how weird) and eat it during the next month. Write down the name of each as you eat it and whether you like it or not. Take the list with you on your shopping trips. For the varieties you liked, pick up a couple of cans each time it goes on sale. In six months you'll have a stockpile. Or if there's an absolute killer sale, you can get your whole stockpile sooner.
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Freeze Dried Meats
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I keep seeing steel cut oats and oat groats. Are they that much better than plain old fashioned oatmeal?
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I keep seeing steel cut oats and oat groats. Are they that much better than plain old fashioned oatmeal?
All oatmeal starts out as oat groats. Steel cut, sometimes called Irish Oats, is the least processed. Like rolled oats and Instant oatmeal.
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I like Knorr pasta or rice packs. Per Zombie Tactics, make a slit in bag, stuff in O2 absorber, and tape over with Gorilla brand tape.
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I keep a variety of beans, grains and pastas as the core of my storage. Along with dehydrated fruits and veggies, powdered and dehydrated potatoes, etc. My meats are almost exclusively canned (store bought and home canned). I'm too cheap to buy the overpriced freeze dried stuff, and dried meat just doesn't seem to rehydrate well.

I do have to second Goose's recommendation of a grinder though. Without one it's hard to turn wheat into fast cooking pastas and flatbreads, or the various snack crackers, deserts, gravies and sauces that help lend normalcy to an otherwise odd diet. It's also hard to turn corn into corn meal and grits.

Barley, oats and corn make up the majority of my grains, although I have plenty of rice too (short grain, regular long grain, jasmine and basmati).

My beans range from pintos (which tend to harden over time), black beans, navy beans, split peas, lentils, garbanzos and 50 lbs or so of soy beans for making oddball stuff with like tofu, tempeh, soy milk, yuba, etc.
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Some long term storage foods I am slowly acquiring. The list doesn't include items that aren't packaged specifically for LTS, but will keep for long terms like canned meats, canned fruits, tea, Folger's Coffee Crystals, etc.

Type Item Size Servings Source
Adjunct Baking powder 2 1/2 192 Provident Pantry
Adjunct Baking soda 2 1/2 192 Provident Pantry
Adjunct Bouillon, beef 10 192 Provident Pantry
Adjunct Bouillon, chicken 10 192 Provident Pantry
Adjunct Cornstarch 2 1/2 192 Provident Pantry
Adjunct Gravy, beef 10 288 Provident Pantry
Adjunct Gravy, chicken 10 288 Provident Pantry
Adjunct Salt, iodized 10 2,304 Provident Pantry
Adjunct Salt, sea 10 2,304 Rainy Day Foods
Adjunct Soup base, white creamy 10 48 Provident Pantry
Adjunct Tomato powder 10 96 Provident Pantry
Adjunct Yeast 2 1/2 192 Sam Andy
Adjunct Cream of Tartar 25oz Scandianavian Spice
Adj, veg Celery, crosscut 10 24 Provident Pantry
Adj, veg Mushroom pieces, FD 10 48 Provident Pantry
Adj, veg Onion, diced, FD 10 48 Provident Pantry
Adj, veg Pepper, green bell, FD 10 48 Provident Pantry
Beans Beans, small white navy 10 24 Provident Pantry
Beans Beans, Great Northern 10 Rainy Day Foods
Beans Beans, pinto 10 48 Provident Pantry
Beans Beans, small red chili 10 48 Provident Pantry
Beans Black eyed peas 10 24
Beans Lentils 10 48 Provident Pantry
Beans Peanut butter powder 10 96 Provident Pantry
Bread Mix, biscuit, buttermilk 10 72 Provident Pantry
Bread Mix, bread, honey wheat 10 48 Provident Pantry
Bread Mix, bread, honey white 10 48 Provident Pantry
Bread Mix, corn muffin & bread 10 48 Provident Pantry
Bread Mix, Sweet Dough 10 48 Abbey's Best
Bread Pilot bread crackers, FD 10 33 Alpine Aire
Breakfast Egg mix, scrambled 10 36 Provident Pantry
Breakfast Eggs w/bacon, precooked 10 16 Mountain House
Breakfast Eggs, scrambled w/ham 10 17 Mountain House
Breakfast Mix, pancake, buttermilk 10 48 Provident Pantry
Cereal Cereal, 5-grain fruit & NUT 10 22 Alpine Aire
Cereal Cereal, Granola, lowfat nut blend 10 24 Provident Pantry
Cereal Cereal, Rice Crispies 2 1/2 6 MRE Depot
Cereal Grits, instant 10 24 Abbey's Best
Cereal Oatmeal, instant 10 24 Provident Pantry
Dairy Butter powder 10 192 Provident Pantry
Dairy Buttermilk powder 10 76 Provident Pantry
Dairy Cheese, cheddar, sharp, FD 10 96 Provident Pantry
Dairy Cheese, Mozzarella, FD 2 1/2 28 Provident Pantry
Dairy Cheese, Parmesan, FD 10 96
Dairy Egg whites 10 192 Provident Pantry
Dairy Eggs, whole 10 96 Provident Pantry
Dairy Milk, non-fat, instant 10 72 Provident Pantry
Dairy Milk, whole, dry 900g 36 Peak (Amazon)
Dairy Shortening powder 10 192 Provident Pantry
Dairy Sour cream powder 10 384 Provident Pantry
Dairy Sweet cream powder 10 384 Sam Andy
Dairy Whipped topping mix 10 106 Rainy Day Foods
Dairy Yogurt starter 5x 10gr 70 King Arthur Flour
Dairy Yogurt, vanilla 10 24 Abbey's Best
Dessert Choclate Sugar Wafers 2 1/2 27 MRE Depot
Dessert Cocoa, baking 10 24 Rainy Day Foods
Dessert Deluxe Mixed Nuts 2 1/2 14 MRE Depot
Dessert Gelatin, lime 10 120 Saratoga Farms
Dessert Gelatin, orange 10 120 Sam Andy
Dessert Gelatin, strawberry 10 120 Sam Andy
Dessert Hard candy 10 48 Healthy Harvest
Dessert Ice Cream bars, chocolate, FD 10 16 Provident Pantry
Dessert LURPs 10 48 MRE Depot
Dessert Mix, Brownie, chocolate fudge 10 48 Provident Pantry
Dessert Mix, muffin, choc/choc chip 10 48 Provident Pantry
Dessert Pudding, buttered pecan 10 36 MRE Depot
Dessert Pudding, chocolate 10 36 Provident Pantry
Dessert Pudding, banana
Dessert Pudding,
Dessert Sunflower seeds 2 1/2 16 MRE Depot
Drink Drink, apple 10 96 Provident Pantry
Drink Drink, fruit punch 10 72 Sam Andy
Drink Drink, orange 10 96 Provident Pantry
Drink Drink, peach 10 96 Provident Pantry
Drink Emergen-C 10 72 Epicenter
Drink Green Coffee Beans 12x? 288
Drink Hot chocolate, Original 10 64 Provident Pantry
Fats/oils Organic Cold Press coconut oil 1-gal
Fats/oils Virgin coconut oil 128 128 Mercola
Flour Cornmeal, yellow 10 64 Provident Pantry
Flour Flour, enriched white 10 64 Provident Pantry
Flour Flour, whole wheat 10 64 Provident Pantry
Fruit Apples, diced, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Fruit Apricot, diced, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Fruit Banana slices, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Fruit Blackberries, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Fruit Blueberries, whole, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Fruit Coconut flakes FD 10 26 Sam Andy
Fruit Date pieces 10 28 Alpine Aire
Fruit Fruit galaxy cocktail 10 44 Nitro-pak
Fruit Fruit mix 10 44 Rainy Day Foods
Fruit Mango, diced 10 24 Provident Pantry
Fruit Orange segements, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Fruit Peach, sliced, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Fruit Pears, diced 10 24 Nitro-pak
Fruit Pineapple, chunks, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Fruit Prunes, pitted 10 12 Ready Reserve
Fruit Rasions, FD 10 36 Provident Pantry
Fruit Strawberries, sliced, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Garden Alfalfa seeds 2 1/2 2,304
Garden Seeds, garden 10 16 Provident Pantry
Grain Barley, pearled 10 48 Provident Pantry
Grain Oats, rolled, regular 10 24 Provident Pantry
Grain Popcorn, yellow 10 96 Provident Pantry
Grain Wheat, Hard red winter 10 48 Provident Pantry
Grain Wheat, hard white winter 10 48 Provident Pantry
Meal Albacore tuna w/noodles 10 11 Alpine Aire
Meal Beef Rotini 10 12 Alpine Aire
Meal Beef stroganoff 10 10 Mountain House
Meal Chicken a la king 10 11 Mountain House
Meal Chicken Gumbo 10 10 Alpine Aire
Meal Chicken Primavera 10 11 Alpine Aire
Meal Chicken Rotelle 10 12 Alpine Aire
Meal Chicken stew 10 10 Mountain House
Meal Chili macaroni 10 10 Mountain House
Meal Chili, Mountain 10 12 Alpine Aire
Meal Lasagna w/ meat & sauce 10 10 Mountain House
Meal Noodles & chicken 10 12 Mountain House
Meal Oriental spicy chicken 10 10 Mountain House
Meal Pasta primavera 10 9 Mountain House
Meal Rice & chicken 10 8 Mountain House
Meal Seafood chowder 10 10 Mountain House
Meal Shrimp Alfredo 10 12 Alpine Aire
Meal Shrimp newburg 10 12 Alpine Aire
Meal Sierra chicken 10 11 Alpine Aire
Meal Soup, creamy potato cheese 10 18 Alpine Aire
Meal Soup, Kernel's corn chowder 10 12 Alpine Aire
Meal Soup, potato, creamy 10 48 Provident Pantry
Meal Spaghetti Marinara w/mushrooms 10 12 Alpine Aire
Meal Spaghetti w/meat 10 10 Mountain House
Meal Stew, Hearty w/beef 10 10 Mountain House
Meal Sweet & sour pork w/ rice 10 10 Mountain House
Meal Texas BBQ Chicken 10 12 Alpine Aire
Meal Turkey tetrazzini 10 10 Mountain House
Meal Vegetable stew w/beef 10 9 Mountain House
Meal Western style tamale pie w/beef 10 11 Alpine Aire
Meal Wild tyme turkey 10 12 Alpine Aire
Meat Albacore tuna, cooked 10 16 Alpine Aire
Meat Beef, ground, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Meat Beef, roast, diced, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Meat Chicken, pulled, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Meat Ham, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Meat Meatballs, Italian, small, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Meat Pork chops, FD 10 12 Healthy Harvest
Meat Salmon, FD 10 15 Provident Pantry
Meat Sausage, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Meat Sausage patty crumbles, FD 10 16 Provident Pantry
Meat Shrimp, cooked 10 24 Provident Pantry
Meat Turkey, pulled, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Pasta Pasta, egg noodle 10 12 Provident Pantry
Pasta Pasta, elbow macaroni 10 24 Provident Pantry
Pasta Pasta, fettuccini noodle 10 24 Provident Pantry
Pasta Pasta, spaghetti noodle 10 24 Provident Pantry
Spice/flavorings Allspice 2 1/2 192 Provident Pantry
Spice/flavorings Bay leaf 2 1/2 192
Spice/flavorings Black pepper, 28 mesh 2 1/2 192 Provident Pantry
Spice/flavorings Chili powder, mild 2 1/2 192 Provident Pantry
Spice/flavorings Cinnamon 2 1/2 192 Provident Pantry
Spice/flavorings Ginger 2 1/2 192
Spice/flavorings Italian seasoning 2 1/2 192 Provident Pantry
Spice/flavorings Lemon pepper 2 1/2 192 Provident Pantry
Spice/flavorings Nutmeg 2 1/2 192
Spice/flavorings Peppermint extract 16oz Faerie's finest
Spice/flavorings Peppermint powder 4# Faerie's finest
Spice/flavorings Rootbeer extract 16oz Faerie's finest
Spice/flavorings Rootbeer powder 4# Faerie's finest
Spice/flavorings Season salt 2 1/2 192
Spice/flavorings Spaghetti sauce spice 2 1/2 192 Provident Pantry
Spice/flavorings Vanilla extract (4x strength) 16oz Faerie's finest
Spice/flavorings Vanilla powder 2 1/2 Provident Pantry
Sugar Honey 10 192 Provident Pantry
Sugar Maple syrump granules, pure 10 104 Alpine Aire
Sugar Sugar, brown 10 576 Provident Pantry
Sugar Sugar, powdered 10 48 Provident Pantry
Sugar Sugar, white 10 576 Provident Pantry
Sugar Syrup, corn, solids 10 70 Sam Andy
Veg/Side Applesauce 10 48 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Asparagus, pieces, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Beans & rice, Santa Fe black beans & rice 10 12 Alpine Aire
Veg/Side Beans, green, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Beans, refried 10 24 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Broccoli florets, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Cabbage dices 10 58 Rainy Day Foods
Veg/Side Carrots, diced 10 64 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Cauliflower Pearls, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Corn, sweet, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Cottage Cheese 10 20 Mountain House
Veg/Side Garden vegetable mix 10 28 Alpine Aire
Veg/Side Macaroni & cheese 10 8 Mountain House
Veg/Side Peas, fresh, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Pilaf, Mushroom w/veggies 10 12 Alpine Aire
Veg/Side Pilaf, wild rice mushroom 10 10 Mountain House
Veg/Side Potato, Au Gratin Scalloped potatoes 2 1/2 6 MRE Depot
Veg/Side Potato, chunks, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Potato, flakes 10 36 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Potato, hashbrown shredded 10 24 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Potato, pearls w/butter 10 64 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Potato, slices 10 24 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Potato, Sweet, dices 10 40 Rainy Day Foods
Veg/Side Rice, brown, instant 10 32 Alpine Aire
Veg/Side Rice, white, instant 10 24 Mountain House
Veg/Side Spinach 10 24 Provident Pantry
Veg/Side Tomato chunks, FD 10 24 Provident Pantry


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Steel cut oats, according to my wife who is a county extension agent has better nutrition than other more processed oats. Not sure how much. Takes a little longer to cook though.

Kidney beans I think have made my list. I like them cooked in most things. Some of the other types that I wouldnt eat will be decided by my wife. She has some soups that have various bean mixes and dried goods that I would eat in a bad situation.

Grits may get added too. I dont eat them very often, but with a little sugar, I like them just fine.

Corn is definately on the list for seed as well as food.

One other thing I am toying with, but dont know ifit is viable or not, dried strips of zuchinni. You can use a potatoe peeler on it and use it as noodles. I assume that you could dry it and reconstitute it enough to use in place of pasta sometimes. Might add some differant nutritional value.
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Steel cut oats, according to my wife who is a county extension agent has better nutrition than other more processed oats. Not sure how much. Takes a little longer to cook though.

Kidney beans I think have made my list. I like them cooked in most things. Some of the other types that I wouldnt eat will be decided by my wife. She has some soups that have various bean mixes and dried goods that I would eat in a bad situation.

Grits may get added too. I dont eat them very often, but with a little sugar, I like them just fine.

Corn is definately on the list for seed as well as food.

One other thing I am toying with, but dont know ifit is viable or not, dried strips of zuchinni. You can use a potatoe peeler on it and use it as noodles. I assume that you could dry it and reconstitute it enough to use in place of pasta sometimes. Might add some differant nutritional value.
Steel cut oats do have better nutrition. But they don't last as long from what I can tell. Maybe packed in mylar with an O2 absorber it wouldn't matter. But on the shelf, they do go rancid. Whereas typical rolled oats seem to last for years without any special packaging.

I guess part of why they have better nutrition is that the outer layer isn't milled off, which is where the oils are. This is why brown rice won't last nearly as long as white rice.

A thing to remember about beans and grains. We tend to think of them only in the few recipes we have eaten them in. So we form distinct likes and dislikes.

But remember, the world is full of cultures that base their entire cuisine around them. So there are thousands upon thousands of different ways to prepare them.

So many different recipes from mild to wild, that you could eat them every day and never have the same meal twice. That's the philosophy behind my food storage and recipes.
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Do you know what the differance in shelf life might be? Or another referance source to scheck on the shelf life of SCO? That's definately something I want to look into.
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Do you know what the differance in shelf life might be? Or another referance source to scheck on the shelf life of SCO? That's definately something I want to look into.
I really don't have anything to go on other than my experiences with it. Consequently, I don't have any in my long term storage until I can find out more about it. For now, I put it in the same category as brown rice.
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