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Old 09-16-2019, 02:47 PM
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I'll wait. There's been no mention of it yet on the news.
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I hope all patriots do their duty in calling or emailing The President and their Congressional reps and letting them know that betraying America by supporting illegal gun control schemes will be political suicide, as well as an act of treason.

If there is no attempt to end the insanity of so-called gun free zones, no serious attempt is being made to reduce the numbers of people killed in mass shootings. The solution is less gun control, not more of it.

Just say no to gun control. No new gun control is ok, no matter how its packaged. This needs to be made clear to these political hacks. Otherwise they will think the liars of the liberal press speak for us.
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I hope all patriots do their duty in calling or emailing The President and their Congressional reps and letting them know that betraying America by supporting illegal gun control schemes will be political suicide, as well as an act of treason.
How exactly will Trump's support on this be political suicide?

What's the alternative? Vote for a democrat? Not voting?
The result will be the same.
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How exactly will Trump's support on this be political suicide?

What's the alternative? Vote for a democrat? Not voting?
The result will be the same.
Yep, if Trump pushed congress to ban all magazines holding two or more rounds and to make possession of an autoloader a federal felony he would still be touted as the best choice...
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I hope all patriots do their duty in calling or emailing The President and their Congressional reps and letting them know that betraying America by supporting illegal gun control schemes will be political suicide, as well as an act of treason.

If there is no attempt to end the insanity of so-called gun free zones, no serious attempt is being made to reduce the numbers of people killed in mass shootings. The solution is less gun control, not more of it.

Just say no to gun control. No new gun control is ok, no matter how its packaged. This needs to be made clear to these political hacks. Otherwise they will think the liars of the liberal press speak for us.
Yeah, I think I’ll skip getting on the list of potential National Red Flag Law inaugural inductees and not mention treason to the president...
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No remember trumps playing 5d chess we gave them bump stocks for something better down the line
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Personally, if Trump betrays the 2A I will not vote for him again. I'll sit out. If that means we get Democrat (read communist) so be it. The Civil War will start that much sooner. And it's not going to end the way the communist think it will.

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Personally, if Trump betrays the 2A I will not vote for him again. I'll sit out. If that means we get Democrat (read communist) so be it. The Civil War will start that much sooner. And it's not going to end the way the communist think it will.

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Already planned on that after thr bump stock ban.
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Personally, if Trump betrays the 2A I will not vote for him again. I'll sit out. If that means we get Democrat (read communist) so be it. The Civil War will start that much sooner. And it's not going to end the way the communist think it will.

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Always easier to say than to do, but I feel your frustration. I wouldn't mind abandoning trump if we could guarantee a win in the Senate and/or House. If we lose all three, it will be a nightmare for gunowners and most are too apathetic to the point of just complaining online about their wilting tree of liberty. If the Dem-Socialists get the majority in congress and the white house, you know the courts won't stand against them and the media will serve as their propaganda wing. Confiscations will happen, but it won't be what many would like...no guns blazing boogaloo.

Even with a full mandatory buy-back, the likely wouldn't even enforce it and just let that law and many others "sit", slowly taken out gun owners, a few at a time, under the radar, no media coverage, done while gunowner is at work or not at home. The tough talking 2A voices will be drowned in legal flood waters and sinking debt. Most won't be yelling Molon Labe, they'll be whimpering in a court room.

I would hate the Trump would make ANY concessions with the gun-grabbers, but the alternatives are far, far worse. That doesn't mean you just mindless pull the lever for Trump. You still voice your opinion to your reps and directly the White House. The NRA is becoming a feckless voice with their corrupt leadership, but there are other organizations that can still make noise with your dollars.

I don't know what the right answer is, but allowing Socialist Democrats (the only type in their Party) in any office for any reason to include withholding your vote is just allows you to exercise your rights and show your stupidity.

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The battle is fought in Congress but won in the Courts, not from the Executive Office.
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No remember trumps playing 5d chess we gave them bump stocks for something better down the line
You sure it was chess? Looks more like checkers...
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I think Beta has put the kibosh on any really destructive legislation.
His confirmation about the Dims real desires has stiffened the back of pro 2A legislators.

And now I'm hearing that Crazy Nancy and Lyin' Chuck are pushing for radical legislation or no go.

Cool.
Let it sit and die, and we all know who the real blame will be on. Just point to Dims and their intransigence to compromise or deal in good faith.
Beta said, Chuck and Nancy demand it. Not going anywhere.
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I think Beta has put the kibosh on any really destructive legislation.
His confirmation about the Dims real desires has stiffened the back of pro 2A legislators.

And now I'm hearing that Crazy Nancy and Lyin' Chuck are pushing for radical legislation or no go.

Cool.
Let it sit and die, and we all know who the real blame will be on. Just point to Dims and their intransigence to compromise or deal in good faith.
Beta said, Chuck and Nancy demand it. Not going anywhere.
My guess is if trump wins..... he will push even more anti gun legislation in 2020.
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Well that was a 5 min video with 20 seconds of rumor information.

Summary:

-3 min of talking about sponsors another minute of promoting a T shirt.

-We look and found nothing but a hint of a rumor about an app.

-Wrap up of check back later when there is news.

Pretty much why I hate youtube.
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I think Beta has put the kibosh on any really destructive legislation.
His confirmation about the Dims real desires has stiffened the back of pro 2A legislators.

And now I'm hearing that Crazy Nancy and Lyin' Chuck are pushing for radical legislation or no go.

Cool.
Let it sit and die, and we all know who the real blame will be on. Just point to Dims and their intransigence to compromise or deal in good faith.
Beta said, Chuck and Nancy demand it. Not going anywhere.
They will vote for anything called gun control no matter how watered down, at least in the senate. Maybe not the house. BUT the commie base will go ape**** if they don’t pass even a minor gun control law.
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Always easier to say than to do, but I feel your frustration. I wouldn't mind abandoning trump if we could guarantee a win in the Senate and/or House. If we lose all three, it will be a nightmare for gunowners

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If the republicans are ALSO enacting gun control....

Whats the difference?
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Well that was a 5 min video with 20 seconds of rumor information.

Summary:

-3 min of talking about sponsors another minute of promoting a T shirt.

-We look and found nothing but a hint of a rumor about an app.

-Wrap up of check back later when there is news.

Pretty much why I hate youtube.
Considering I had it forwarded in about 3 mins to the part that was pertinent, it was you who would've decided it was worth watching, I just skip the in video commercials. Pretty much all gun channels either have to do that or patreon or both to keep their channel funded. Then they have to walk a fine line to not get their channel closed down.
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How exactly will Trump's support on this be political suicide?

What's the alternative? Vote for a democrat? Not voting?
The result will be the same.
I'll vote for the lesser of two evils but many patriots won't. Many patriots are tired of the constant betrayals and are ready to give up on the system. If the Republicans are going to take us the same place as the Democrats, only slower, there are many who think it's just as well that the heat be turned up more quickly so maybe the frog will jump out before it's too late.

You would know this if you were not such a simpleton (this is based on past experience).

I could have said potential suicide though, because he might still win and I hope he does. But a blatant betrayal of one's base is generally considered to be a politically suicidal thing to do.

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Yeah, I think I’ll skip getting on the list of potential National Red Flag Law inaugural inductees and not mention treason to the president...
I decided a long time ago that I will speak my mind without fear; the worst thing they can do is kill me, and I'm going to die one of these days anyway. If I voluntarily give up my 1st Amendment rights they might as well have been taken away. There is no doubt I am already on their radar. And my guess is you probably are too.

Or did you think they will leave you alone if you talk nice? If that's the route you want to take I suggest you stop talking like a patriot altogether. And get a different screen name too; naming yourself after an American patriot who served at the battle of Bunker Hill is probably as bad as speaking the truth about gun control supporters being traitors.

If referring to those who try to undermine the Constitution and disarm the American people as traitors is enough to subject us to red flag confiscations, then the Constitution no longer exists as a barrier against tyranny, and it's time to fight. So as the saying goes, molon labe. I'd rather die a free man than live as a subject of a criminal gang.

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The battle is fought in Congress but won in the Courts, not from the Executive Office.
Unless something passes by a veto-proof margin the president has to sign the legislation, and that makes him an important part of the process.

The battle might be won in the courts, but I wouldn't count on it. The Court should have thrown out most gun control laws a long time ago, and didn't.

The Heller and MacDonald decisions were mostly good but they left the door open to reasonable limits on the right, without giving any criteria for determining what constitutes reasonableness. This has allowed much mischief by traitors who want the American people disarmed.

One of the good things about Trump is that he is said to be placing loyal Americans on the Court. He placed two on the high court and will likely place at least one more there. The result of this could be a much improved Court that will actually do its sworn duty in supporting and defending the Constitution.

I said his appointments are "said to be" because as far as I can tell they have not yet been tested. At least they should be better than any Hillary appointment would have been. But if they vote to continue the deterioration of the 2nd Amendment (and the rest of our rights) they might as well have been appointed by Hillary.

For now though I'm still cautiously hopeful.

But I'll still do what I can to stop Congress from committing the treason it is threatening to commit. And one way to do that is write and call our Congressional reps and the White House. And if you feel uncomfortable referring to traitors as traitors, you can say something like please sir, please don't vote for gun control. All they need to know is that you want them to oppose gun control. They do look at numbers.
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From a political standpoint Trump and the GOPs best move is to do absolutely nothing on gun control. Simply read the 2A to the people. Explain history and tyranny. Explain why the people should keep their rights.

The Dems simply dig their political graves and to MORE loony tunes off the rails with crys for confiscation.

I don't understand why the right hasn't figured this out. Support the Constitution. Educate the people about their rights. Let the Dems be the insane totalitarians.
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