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I have a couple marlins 83s. I also took a extra remington 510 and converted it to 22 mag. I would like to pick up a TC hotshot and convert it over. One potential problem I have found with some single shots is it can be difficult to feed with a gloved hand. I have found the remington 510 to be about the best of the single shots. The cartridge only needs to lay in the action and the bolt will feed it into the chamber. My boys cricket the cartridge needs to be started into the chamber and then the bolt closed.
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I bought a Henry AR7 for my BOB and I'm happy with it. However, I've heard some complaints from others.
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Switch barrel guns for both .22/.22 magnum?

Only the single shots and a few custom guns like C.E. Harris's custom Ruger 77/22.

I've owned my .22 mag for something like 20 years now, and its a killing machine. I wouldn't give it up for its weight in gold.

It's finished off countless critters, been a companion on countless hunts and been a part of my car kit for longer than I can remember.

For 95% of what I need a rifle for, I can handle perfectly well with a .22 magnum.

Skip the cheap .22 mags, they aren't as satisfactory as the higher end choices.

Mine? A CZ ZKM611 semi auto. And yes, they are that good.
Expensive, sure. But I'm worth it.
And I don't buy junk anymore.
I learned my lesson years ago.
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OK, I think I like the Ruger

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-action-rifle/

I still don't know why it can't handle both rounds though.

Change my mind every 5 minutes. I think I will let the options jell for a few days. I always wanted a Savage over and under .22/.410 also, so no easy choices.
The .22 mag case is bigger around than the .22 LR.
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I have a couple marlins 83s. I also took a extra remington 510 and converted it to 22 mag. I would like to pick up a TC hotshot and convert it over. One potential problem I have found with some single shots is it can be difficult to feed with a gloved hand. I have found the remington 510 to be about the best of the single shots. The cartridge only needs to lay in the action and the bolt will feed it into the chamber. My boys cricket the cartridge needs to be started into the chamber and then the bolt closed.
This is dangerous if it's not chambered for .22 mag.
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This is dangerous if it's not chambered for .22 mag.
It is chambered for 22 mag. That's why it is called a conversion.
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I really like the Kel Tec PMR30 which holds up to 30 .22mag/WMR rnds (once you break in the mags) This gun loaded weighs less than 1 lb and has a very nice trigger, plus it rapid fires .. kinda like a mini AR. I also like the Ruger 10/22 Take Down. It's far better quality and reliability than any other survival .22 rifle.
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The .22 mag case is bigger around than the .22 LR.
Get the conversion barrels/cylinders like what NAA Arms offers with their mini's. Great pocket guns with a bit more punch when using the .22 mag, practice with the .22 LR cylinder.
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I really like the Kel Tec PMR30 which holds up to 30 .22mag/WMR rnds (once you break in the mags) This gun loaded weighs less than 1 lb and has a very nice trigger, plus it rapid fires .. kinda like a mini AR. I also like the Ruger 10/22 Take Down. It's far better quality and reliability than any other survival .22 rifle.
That Kel Tc is neat. Thank you.
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22 WMR is typically .224 in diameter, and 22 S/L/LR is .223; example: the ruger convertible has a .224 bore so it can safely accommodate rounds fired from either the lr cylinder or the wmr cylinder. This is also why you will hear complaints about the accuracy of 22lr fired from a convertible.

You can fire .22lr in .22wmr chamber using a chamber adapter - you see them on ebay frequently. I have used them in single shot or bolt action rifles, not in a semi-auto. If you do this, I would highly recommend Paco's accurizer, which reshapes lead nose bullets to fire more accurately in larger bores.

I used to recommend just getting a 223, then use a chamber adapter for WMR or LR, but at 30 cents a round vs. 20 cents for 22WMR, it doesn't make sense any more.
Save yer 22mag empties and cut off the bottom of the shell(rim end). Then I run a #1 wire gauge drill bit through them, then a 22 cal. wire cleaning brush a coupla times shove a reg .22 shell inside and put it in the .22mag rifle and shoot it..I single load one at a time..if you glue the .22 inside the .22 mag it'll even extract! Works good in my .22mag colt six shooter..sometimes my ho-made adapter stays inna cylinder then I just insert another .22 l.r...the ones that the whole thing comes out I use a short dowel on...
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Save yer 22mag empties and cut off the bottom of the shell(rim end). Then I run a #1 wire gauge drill bit through them, then a 22 cal. wire cleaning brush a coupla times shove a reg .22 shell inside and put it in the .22mag rifle and shoot it..I single load one at a time..if you glue the .22 inside the .22 mag it'll even extract! Works good in my .22mag colt six shooter..sometimes my ho-made adapter stays inna cylinder then I just insert another .22 l.r...the ones that the whole thing comes out I use a short dowel on...
Brilliant!
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After I got a 17 HMR, my other guns are gathering dust (so to speak).
Ammo is about the same price , but @ 2550 FPS and nail driver accuracy across the board , My money is in the accuracy.
.22 mag rifle I had could not compare.
I only keep .22 mag ammo for my Ruger convertible, but the extra power in that gun is not impressive weighed to accuracy either.
Some day I want the smith .17 HMR revolver, and I may just give my son all the .22s for his birthday,including the 10/22 .
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I have an older Marlin .22 WMR that always shot really good. I would probably get one of the newer Marlin XT-22's or the Ruger American if I wanted a new .22 WMR.
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Save yer 22mag empties and cut off the bottom of the shell(rim end). Then I run a #1 wire gauge drill bit through them, then a 22 cal. wire cleaning brush a coupla times shove a reg .22 shell inside and put it in the .22mag rifle and shoot it..I single load one at a time..if you glue the .22 inside the .22 mag it'll even extract! Works good in my .22mag colt six shooter..sometimes my ho-made adapter stays inna cylinder then I just insert another .22 l.r...the ones that the whole thing comes out I use a short dowel on...
Actually if you just file the head off a spent 22mg case you can fit a 22lr inside and instant chamber adapter. no drill bits needed. I used in my ruger single six when I left the 22lr cylinder home one day and ran out of 22mag early.
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I don't think a rifle that shoots 22 mag will also shoot 22lr.

If one is made please tell me because I want it.
Rossi Circuit Judge has interchangeable cylinders like the Rough Rider.
http://www.rossiusa.com/product-deta...adcrumbseries=
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Actually if you just file the head off a spent 22mg case you can fit a 22lr inside and instant chamber adapter. no drill bits needed. I used in my ruger single six when I left the 22lr cylinder home one day and ran out of 22mag early.
The Ruger probly has oversized chambers..won't work with my Marlin rifle, I have to ream 'em..
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Man, it's like going to the pound looking for a puppy. I want them all!
MSRP of $732 is pretty spendy though.

Edit, I just handled one at a store. ~$479 plus tax. They also had a .410 40 long colt similar style and price.
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The Ruger probly has oversized chambers..won't work with my Marlin rifle, I have to ream 'em..
Some of the rimfire cases have an inner belt (CCI) that'll prevent the insertion of a 22 LR shell.

Since the bullet diameter of the 22WRF is .224" and the diameter of a 22LR shell is the same diameter as the bullet .223" it sounds like a good idea IMHO. (Since the 22WMR is a straight case.)

I've seen pictures of a 22LR fired in a Mag chamber - the entire case split down the side and was smoked from the escaping gasses.

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I had heard that if you take a 22 mag brass and cut the back off you can use it as an insert to fire 22lr out of 22mag
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Im a big fan of the Henry. I have the 22lr shoots great. A friend of mine has the mag version. It shoots awesome as well.

http://henryrepeating.com/rifle-lever-magnum.cfm
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