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Old 07-02-2020, 11:51 AM
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Should USA be divided into the 'Democratic States of America' and the 'Republican States of America'?
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This topic was brought up on another forum, just no poll and they had banned me, so could not discuss.

One person replied as such:

"If the government is formed by the authority of the people, as embodied into separate communities, a dissolution of the Constitutional Compact would replace them in the condition of separate communities, that being the Condition in which they entered into the compact; whereas if formed by the people as one community, acting as such by a numerical majority, a dissolution of the compact would reduce them to a state of nature, as so many individual persons." - James Madison, Fourth president of the United States


What does that mean? States can break off or not?
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Doesn't work for geographical reasons. The blue areas are the large cities, the red areas and the rural areas. So the U.S> would end up with a majority large rural red area with small areas of blue cities within. Not workable
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No, we should force out the people who hate this country and let them live out their dreams of socialistic utopia elsewhere.
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You do realize Balkanization is their goal, right? Break off a piece they can control, and then another, and then another. The only real estate they deserve are their graves.
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Having one party in power for too long is a bad thing. Doesn't matter who it is. It's a far better system to have a democracy and let people vote, then to force people into a certain way of doing things.

People will rise up and fight back.
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Doesn't work for geographical reasons. The blue areas are the large cities, the red areas and the rural areas. So the U.S> would end up with a majority large rural red area with small areas of blue cities within. Not workable
If it breaks, there will be no reasonable borders.

Get Google Earth, then:

1) check border between India and Bangladesh. Crazy borders
2) check border between Germany and France. Then google a map of german speaking population in France
3) check a map of predominant language by municipality for Switzerland
4) google map of predominant ethnicity in Austro-Hungary at the start of WW1
5) check on google earth borders between the Stans in the middle east
6) check in google how Spain looked like in 1936 at the start of their Civil War. A checkerboard of sides

Any of those examples will show you what a boundary between Old USA and Demokrat People's Republic could look like



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Nope. It should be united under the Conservative banner and the Dems should be exiled.
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Not just the United States, all of North America should be devided into nine independent nations.

An Expanded New England - Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island, Massachusetts and Connecticut. Capital: Boston.

The Foundry — Northeastern United States and Great Lakes region. New York City to Milwaukee and down to the suburbs of Washington DC Capital: Detroit.

Dixie — The former Confederate States of America.Texas, Virginia, Maryland, West Virginia, Kentucky, Missouri, southern Illinois, and Indiana; and the "Little Dixie" region of southeastern Oklahoma. Northern Florida, Capital: Atlanta.

The Breadbasket — The Great Plains states and Prairie provinces: Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska, the Dakotas, almost all of Oklahoma, parts of Missouri, western Wisconsin, eastern Colorado, the eastern edge of New Mexico, central Illinois, a portion of Indiana, and North Texas. Also Northern Ontario and southern Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Capital: Kansas City.

The Islands — The South Florida metropolitan area, the Everglades and Florida Keys, and the Caribbean. Capital: Miami.

MexAmerica — The southern and Central Valley portions of California as well as southern Arizona, the portion of Texas bordering on the Rio Grande, most of New Mexico, northern Mexico, and the Baja California Peninsula. Capital: Los Angeles.

The Pacific Northwest Coast - west of the Cascade Range and the Coast Mountains, as well as several Alaskan Pacific Coast Ranges, stretching from Alaska down through coastal British Columbia, Washington state, Oregon, and into California just north of Santa Barbara. Capital: San Francisco.

The Great Basin and Western Mountains — Alaska, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana and Colorado from Denver west, as well as the eastern portions of Oregon, California, Washington, all of Alberta and Northern Canada, Northern Arizona, parts of New Mexico, and British Columbia east of the Coast Ranges. Capital: Denver.

Quebec — The primarily French-speaking province of Canada, Capital: Quebec City.
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We should declare some kind of war with China over the pandemic they caused. Give us someone else to hate, besides each other.
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Should USA be divided into the 'Democratic States of America' and the 'Republican States of America'?
ABSOLUTELY NO ONE LEAVES THE UNION ! If we start Balkanizing the commie coastal states will open the welcome wagon to every enemy of Union. Chicoms own ports in CA and other coastal areas. These states are going to be destitute and the Red Chinese will extend "Financial assistance" akin to loan sharking, we see in other countries that have been sucked into the belt and road conquest plan.
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Should USA be divided into the 'Democratic States of America' and the 'Republican States of America'?
No!!. Yet another uncivil post from the America destroyer. Jeez, is this really how your mind works. It seems to me you post these outrageous idiotic cthreads to trigger the loons simply to garner attention.

Is it really your desire to see our nation destroyed?
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Kurt Schlichter has written a series of novels (People's Republic, Indian Country, Wildire, Collaspe) on this concept. I swear the left is using them for a road map. Else, he can see the future. I'd say they are on par with the Going Home series.
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No, we should force out the people who hate this country and let them live out their dreams of socialistic utopia elsewhere.
****in' Aye ! China, Cuba and Venezuela are looking for Anti American subversives to help them out. Don't let the door hit you in the ass ! I'll make a donation if they start a fund to "liberate " them and send them to a commie utopia.
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Not just the United States, all of North America should be devided into nine independent nations.

An Expanded New England - Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island, Massachusetts and Connecticut. Capital: Boston.

The Foundry Northeastern United States and Great Lakes region. New York City to Milwaukee and down to the suburbs of Washington DC Capital: Detroit.

Dixie The former Confederate States of America.Texas, Virginia, Maryland, West Virginia, Kentucky, Missouri, southern Illinois, and Indiana; and the "Little Dixie" region of southeastern Oklahoma. Northern Florida, Capital: Atlanta.

The Breadbasket The Great Plains states and Prairie provinces: Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska, the Dakotas, almost all of Oklahoma, parts of Missouri, western Wisconsin, eastern Colorado, the eastern edge of New Mexico, central Illinois, a portion of Indiana, and North Texas. Also Northern Ontario and southern Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Capital: Kansas City.

The Islands The South Florida metropolitan area, the Everglades and Florida Keys, and the Caribbean. Capital: Miami.

MexAmerica The southern and Central Valley portions of California as well as southern Arizona, the portion of Texas bordering on the Rio Grande, most of New Mexico, northern Mexico, and the Baja California Peninsula. Capital: Los Angeles.

The Pacific Northwest Coast - west of the Cascade Range and the Coast Mountains, as well as several Alaskan Pacific Coast Ranges, stretching from Alaska down through coastal British Columbia, Washington state, Oregon, and into California just north of Santa Barbara. Capital: San Francisco.

The Great Basin and Western Mountains Alaska, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana and Colorado from Denver west, as well as the eastern portions of Oregon, California, Washington, all of Alberta and Northern Canada, Northern Arizona, parts of New Mexico, and British Columbia east of the Coast Ranges. Capital: Denver.

Quebec The primarily French-speaking province of Canada, Capital: Quebec City.
I can't see southern Ontario going with Ohio and NY state. The Toronto oligarchs won't play #2 to NYC, and the culture is different.

I'd say Ontario would be its own thing... may or may not include Manitoba. Outside Toronto, Ontario is more like Vermont and New Hampshire and Maine than like Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Just my $0.02 from someone living in Ontario who has travelled the states mentioned above.

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Divide and conquer it's just what the enemy wants.
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It may take a war before people see the light

I hope not
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Kurt Schlichter has written a series of novels (People's Republic, Indian Country, Wildfire, Collapse) on this concept. I swear the left is using them for a road map. Else, he can see the future. I'd say they are on par with the Going Home series.
Yeah, read them all. Highly recommended. He even deals with the chinese and the west coast.

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You do realize Balkanization is their goal, right? Break off a piece they can control, and then another, and then another. The only real estate they deserve are their graves.
They've already effectively done this. Blue cities, counties, states. I don't know how the OP's scenario could be accomplished without expelling a bunch of people or like in Schlichter's books they are held against their will (good guys - nobody is trying to get IN to the "People's Republic")

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This movement is well under way already. Has been for a couple of years. I think they are planning a meeting in Va or W Va this weekend.

Started by what seems to be conservatives in an attempt to stave off a war between the two.

The liberals need the conservatives, not the other way around.

Kind of like having a high maintainence wife and step daughter with access to your bank.

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