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Much I could respond to but maybe someday = possibly not until next summer. It most likely will be next summer such as July or later when I will post new pics. I will try to take as many photos as I can although my phone does not take very good pics and the laptop is more blurry.

About my construction of the 'long garage' which is made of much plywood and 2x4's with as many log poles that I can obtain also is that it is going slow but sure.

I had a long detailed post trying to answer much but this browser quit and I lost it all. I will not go into detail now again but will try to answer a bit more

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We will see how much construction we can get done tomorrow. We left before sunrise this morning for Laramie to collect provisions. Also spent most of Sunday rounding up supplies. I need to head back to the airport in Denver come Wednesday.

-K

I had the choice of having cavedweller help me with obtaining many supplies or helping me build much on the long garage. I truly needed to buy many supplies such as a new larger 2000 watt generator and a new Milwaukee brand drill - driver - which is the best and most powerful of any of the electric screw drivers. I also bought many wood screws but ran out but the hardware store here in Saratoga had many and I spent another five hundred dollars buying stuff - many many wood screws, more wood stove pipe and much plastic sheeting to cover the long 60 plus foot garage.

I planned to remove most of the many sheets of metal that cover the 1990 A - frame shed but the early snow and cold will likely prevent doing that until next summer. Within five or so years I hope to remove - tear down 4 of the sheds and clean them out well - burning much trash, old newspapers etc. etc. and within ten years only have one shed plus the bunker and likely the 20 x 10 foot partially underground greenhouse cabin.


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Been a great few days with MMM. Later on will take the time to write some more detailed post. I am just taking a pitstop on my way back to the Denver airport.

MMM is defiantly in a solid position food wise going into winter. As we spent three days traveling to town to gather supplies and take care of his business. Each day we came back with a truck load of supplies. We did a short hike around his property one afternoon. I would have liked to hike more, we did get a lot of work done. Mike still has lots of construction to finish to harden his trailer from the snow load.

The good news is there is a good bit of community around his stronghold. I met a few of his neighbors. Sounds like they come up to their cabins to snowmobile during the winter. So Mike shouldn't be totally cut off for the whole winter. If he climbs up to right spot, there is some cell phone signal. The tower looks to be 20 miles away. His phone works, but mine would not up there.

Here are a few random pictures. I'll be back later with more. -K

Actually I can call from anywhere on my mtn land. In 2002 until 2010 or so I had to climb the sunny hillside but with new cell towers I get good reception. I have two Tracfones but only one has minutes on it. I just dont know why I cannot text as I did in July until Aug 4th. I can at least, make phone calls. I try to have my phone turned on around 8 to 9 or so am every Sunday morning. I gave my phone number in a previous post a few days ago. I will try to post more but I have no new pics. It was a rush trip now and it was also snowing with six new inches of snow when I left. When I get back I most likely will Not be going back to town until possibly July 2020. I will try to keep in contact with the few who I have their phone numbers.

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So the bikini babe is kinda funny story. We were driving over the Snowy Range last Monday to spend the day shopping in Laramie. MMM wanted to stop off at Lake Marie and have a look around. The sun was just coming up and the lighting was "PERFECT'. So prefect was the lighting on the lake and mountains that the parking lot was full of cars with California tags. We commented on the fact the place was so busy for a freezing cold, Monday morning.

As we walked over to the lake there were a couple dudes walking back to the parking lot with an empty cart. Then we get up to the lake and there are tripods and photo gear set up. I was thinking they were doing landscape stuff because the light on the cliffs was spectacular. Then the cart guys come back full of props, antlers, blankets and animal skins. Now I started getting curious. I''m snapping pics and looking around. Then "California Man" starts barking orders at me to not take pictures and that we could not be there. So naturally I started taking more photos and getting more nosey. Still at this point have not seen Bikini Babe. MMM and I kept working our way around the lake and getting cool photos of the view. Also freezing to death as it was 25 degrees with a strong wind.

Once we were around the lake I caught a view of Bikini Babe. She and the crew were tucked back into this low spot along the bank. Protected from view by a slight rise and a few trees from anyone on the main walkway. Now I stepped out on a few boulders on the lake shore to get the right angle and maxed out the zoom on my camera. Started filling up the SD card. If California Man said I couldn't take photos, I was going to load up on photos to share with the fine folks back at SBoards. Finally the cold won out over my desire to catch more snaps. MMM and I were burning daylight. As we still had a long drive to Laramie.

My encounter with California Man and my attitude towards the situation would come back later that day. One of the items on MMM's shopping list was a cast iron stove. The lumber yard and farm supply store both had nothing that fit the bill. We did get word that there was a fire place store down the road. I had a feeling that a dedicated wood stove store would be well out of MMM's budget. We checked it out, I was right. Cheap steel units were $1,500 and went up from there. Mike spotted a stove decorating the vestibule. The owner spoke up that the stove was "not for sale". Well Mike is hard of hearing and kept asking how much was the stove. The message finally gets through to Mike that the stove is not for sale because it is not compliant with Federal Government regulations on wood stoves. Mike comes unglued. If he would have been typing, it could have become a epic thread on SBoard against government interference upon our lives. Fortunately for me, the next grocery shopping stop was just across the street. I was standing guard over the thousands of dollars worth of supplies in the truck bed. While MMM and his rage went shopping.

After a bit more shopping we were headed back over the Snowy Range. Into Saratoga for MMM to handle so more business. I dropped Mike off and I wandered over to the hot spring. Nice facility, open to the public. If you are in the area, check it out. The main pool was 118F with the upper pool being a comfortable 100F. Would have went for a swim, but didn't have shorts and didn't want to leave all off MMM's supplies alone for too long. Although Wyoming didn't strike me a high crime area

More later -K

Photos are a few more of Bikini Babe, the hot springs in Saratoga WY, Lake Marie, a little shack above the Lake Marie parking lot, some of MMM's supplies and a cow.

Much I could write but I did not realize I was raging. I was going on about not being able to Find any kind of old cast iron stove - one that did not have a catalytic converter etc etc. And that wood stove salesman said something about being 2020 compliant??? Both of my large woodstoves do not have any of that expensive junk. I realize that people in cities and towns Must have them to keep down the air pollution. In my remote mtn area I likely will be the only one burning wood for ten or more miles unless one or two other people a mile or two away will come up to their cabins in winter.

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I see you guys made the trek to Ridleys for the case lot sale.
And thanks for telling me about Ridley's great grocery store biathlon. It is the best grocery store in Laramie. I bought as much freeze dried food plus many cases of various canned food. From tuna, to peanut butter to baked beans and canned vegetables. I like chefboyardee beefaroni and lasagna best. Much cheaper than freeze dried food although I must eat the canned food before I eat much of the freeze dried. I like Augasun Farms freeze dried and I got as much of it as I could. They have freeze dried lasagna etc and I bought a sealed can of 8000 various 12 kinds of vegetable seeds also.



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This month, MMM has had more company than he's had in a long time, ha!

I figured I'd better get up there before the snow hits for real. Dropped off a few things and we took a trip down to town so he could pick up an order that had come in this week (freeze-dried lasagna).

He seems in good spirits and is optimistic about the coming winter. He still wishes he had some good help for his construction projects, but alas, that is not me. Food is an ongoing concern of his and he stated that he's already lost 20 lbs since heading up there in July (this is not a person with a lot of weight to spare). Hopefully that will stabilize as he settles into a routine for winter, but staying warm burns a lot of calories.

Photo posted with MMM's consent.
Thank you great oalo for coming to see me and the great Christmas present. Even though it said do not open until Christmas I Had to open it. I am not Tom Hanks as a Castaway = that interesting but too Hollyweird movie. I choose my remote life far from "civilization" but he could not wait to get back....

I will wait and eat the cookies you put in the metal container. Over the years the metal round cookie box will be very helpful keeping out mice and insects. I can use the hand and toe warmers packets long before Christmas.

It got down to 5 degrees F. that is not the sissy metric C celsius but Fahrenheit. My first big test of the very cold and snow with 8 inches of snow and 5 degrees F. on Thursday Oct. 11th and also Friday. Especially with the snowy cold all day that Thursday all I could do was stay in my arctic sleeping bag and wait it out. I listened to the radio and wish I had my books but they are still packed away. Five degrees F. is mid winter temps but I survived it well even without any external heat since it was Oct. 14th before I set up all of my stove pipe and the metal sheet backing on the wall. I still must set up the barrel stove. And I Must begin burning a lot of wood. Even if it keeps snowing too much I Must get the walls and roof put on hopefully by Halloween.

I hope to see you again at least next summer Oalo even bring you husband and any friends who are brave enough. Yes, it seems to me that for many years now that all of the good survival survivalist prepper type women are already taken.

Anyway, thanks to the few who do read this thread. And the very few who respond. I will likely post pics again but not until next July or later. Here is a great thread Oalo posted a few days ago. Lucky I saw this but she had printed out much of it when she was here I think she was here Oct. 9th the day before the big snow hit. She is very brave and a very good caring kind person. NO one in real life has helped me like Cavedweller and Oalo have helped me since my parents died.

IF I had one or two real life people help me in real life like the very few from Watch Ryder to the two or so others then I would have much more built and done. And I would be more prepared than 90 plus percent of possibly everyone. Anyway take care all and do not worry about me since this is what I have planned to do since 1987 when I first bought my land;

Here is Oalo's great kind thread > https://www.survivalistboards.com/sh...d.php?t=928320

Here is the snow survey station which is half a mile from my land and which Cavedweller and I took a few minutes to check out. For many years I checked this link all winter but beginning this winter I Must check it in real life >>>> https://wcc.sc.egov.usda.gov/reportG...ue,TOBS::value

Again take care all and good luck etc. for I truly believe that 2020 and beyond will be very interesting - to say the least....
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Good luck Mike - keep warm and have fun up there!!!
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Got a few messages from MMM. From what I could make out he ran supplies for building his tunnel/car port/snow defense structure. So he drove his truck into town, last week. Then Mother Nature dumped 2 feet of snow on his mountain. The state of Wyoming shut down the highway. Closed the gates on the highway. MMM got stuck in town. I believe for about 5 or 6 days.

Sounds like yesterday WYDOT plowed open the highway. MMM chained up his truck and made it back to his land. He said it would of been good video. That there was so sliding and hairy moments. Unfortunately no video camera.

MMM asked that I pass along an update and say "Hello".

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Got a few messages from MMM. From what I could make out he ran supplies for building his tunnel/car port/snow defense structure. So he drove his truck into town, last week. Then Mother Nature dumped 2 feet of snow on his mountain. The state of Wyoming shut down the highway. Closed the gates on the highway. MMM got stuck in town. I believe for about 5 or 6 days.

Sounds like yesterday WYDOT plowed open the highway. MMM chained up his truck and made it back to his land. He said it would of been good video. That there was so sliding and hairy moments. Unfortunately no video camera.

MMM asked that I pass along an update and say "Hello".

-K
Being stuck in town is better than getting stuck out in a snow drift along the road. Mike needs to have a way to monitor the Weather forecasts and never travel when the storms are looming. In his remote location it can be a life threatening thing to try to drive to town.

Thanks for the update and "Hello" back to MM.
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Just finished reading your updates,please continue to post as you can. Be safe and try to stay warm and hydrated,be careful with your physical activities in the winter. We moved from city to permanent off grid this year Feb,has been a wonderful experience and kids now dread going into "town" for anything.Work every day,always something to do and winter comes way too fast.Still have a ton of wood to cut/split and one more shed to finish.Best of luck to you and have a Merry Xmas !
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Got a text from Mike yesterday. Said he was doing well. Quiet at his place, as it been 3 weeks since a neighbor been down the road. He was wishing everyone a great Thanksgiving. Planning on a freeze dried turkey dinner and turkey spam for his meal Thursday.
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Got a text from Mike yesterday. Said he was doing well. Quiet at his place, as it been 3 weeks since a neighbor been down the road. He was wishing everyone a great Thanksgiving. Planning on a freeze dried turkey dinner and turkey spam for his meal Thursday.
Next time you hear from MMM tell him we are wishing him the same.
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I have been wondering if anyone has heard from Mike recently. Been meaning to ask that on the thread the last few days.

Not having an update from him, I don't know that he is prepared to spend the whole winter up there unless he is able to stay in his camper (without it succumbing to snow load).
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I just spoke with him on facebook messenger. He has come down from the mountain and is in Laramie till summer. He says he is ok and will post once he has a better way to do so. He hates using his phone to use the internet hehe
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Thanks Trinity. I was able to post a lot on my Facebook page. I even posted a couple new pics. I have twenty pics I will post even on this s boards but I need to buy a laptop.

I am not used to and just don't like phones never have even those old noisy bothersome phones of antiquity. I am doing one finger typing and it's painful. A Great deal to tell about and I will someday with 20 new pics.

It was very difficult for me to walk out the mile to the highway. Yet another true story I will write about. I must get a laptop since much easier to type and post pics. And anyone can ask me anything but I like ly won't respond much til I get a laptop hopefully from a pawn shop.

IF anyone can post the link to my Facebook page plz do. I was able to barely post s couple pics on Facebook I can't or just too difficult to do much with these freakin so called smart phones
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Being stuck in town is better than getting stuck out in a snow drift along the road. Mike needs to have a way to monitor the Weather forecasts and never travel when the storms are looming. In his remote location it can be a life threatening thing to try to drive to town.

Thanks for the update and "Hello" back to MM.
Guess I will try to answer this as if anything anyone says or writes matters anymore. I have at least two dozen people to answer mainly on Facebook and I mostly hate Facebook.

I listened to the national weather service station which constantly gives updated weather listened two or more times a day.
I have four radio s three with the weather station hazard weather update s

I went to town to get a Lot more supplies I may actually have two years worth of food canned and freeze dried and some buckets of wheat etc also. Only one years worth of TPaper but rags will work If necessary

The main thing I was thinking about all summer since July 8 when I first got up there, was to get at least as one year supply of food etc. Then build what I needed to build. I tried to hire two guys to help me but even fifty dollars an hour wasn't enough it seems. I would have paid even $100 an hour for anyone to help me even for one measly day.

I could and probably should have left went back to "civilization" in September or mid October but I stayed as long as I Could the day after Thanksgiving. I even slept 4 nights in the bunker - my underground cabin. Warm enough there just not enough split firewood.

Next year or so l Will be better prepared. I would like to see Anyone do better than I did. But most likely could not even walk around up there at 9500 feet. I simply DO what I need and want to do pushing the envelope, taking risks, testing myself even NO matter what anyone thinks anymore. Even those who used to thank and like what I have posted in the past!

I know better than most aboyt the hazards of traveling in bad weather. Much more later with 20 new pics which tell better than I can
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Mike, I have been thinking of you and always check the weather out there when I hear of storms. Glad you are OK, I know for you being stuck in Laramie sucks. Maybe you can start working on that book to pass the time, a laptop could help with that.

Wishing you the best! Eddie
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Mike, I hope you take this well. You have said on this thread several times you are not going to take advice from other people. You might want to rethink that attitude. I'm one of the few people who have been to your retreat and met you and your family personally so I do believe I'm aware of your situation.

Right now it seems like you are back in Laramie and the nest egg is trickling away (again). It should be obvious by now that you are not yet fully prepared (I don't consider it failure, as much as lack of being ready for a full time life on the mountain).

I'm glad you decided to come off the mountain and are reconnoitering. Better than last time when you were badly injured and probably came within a day of dying.

Reread my post # 673 on this thread and my post # 18 on Oalo's thread (your name in the title and last posting as of today was on 11-9-2019) in the disaster and general discussion where I both times tried to gently give you advice.... And think of your nest egg slipping away.

A learning experience, learn from it.

Also I want to say that I am very glad you came out unscathed this time. Also said somewhere in the last few pages of the thread that I'd worry about you.
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Mike, I hope you take this well. You have said on this thread several times you are not going to take advice from other people. You might want to rethink that attitude. I'm one of the few people who have been to your retreat and met you and your family personally so I do believe I'm aware of your situation.

Right now it seems like you are back in Laramie and the nest egg is trickling away (again). It should be obvious by now that you are not yet fully prepared (I don't consider it failure, as much as lack of being ready for a full time life on the mountain).

I'm glad you decided to come off the mountain and are reconnoitering. Better than last time when you were badly injured and probably came within a day of dying.

Reread my post # 673 on this thread and my post # 18 on Oalo's thread (your name in the title and last posting as of today was on 11-9-2019) in the disaster and general discussion where I both times tried to gently give you advice.... And think of your nest egg slipping away.

A learning experience, learn from it.

Also I want to say that I am very glad you came out unscathed this time. Also said somewhere in the last few pages of the thread that I'd worry about you.
Thanks I guess, for all of that. I Hope you and many read and at least try to understand what I write. No way I can tell Everything but the more I post then the closer to everything.

I would most likely have at least a small but very good well stocked cabin on my land If I had not been severely injured plus other things that I will not go into again or ever. Btw, I think I have told more than most people on the net and especially on this huge forum many whom won't even tell what country they are in.

My previous recent post just a couple posts back #1134 is one more post where I tell more than ever especially why I do what I do. I likely did not fully tell Why I do and have done what I have done especially since I bought my mountain land the summer of 1987. Maybe it would take a book to fully tell Why and also how etc. etc. I do and have done what I have done especially on my mtn retreat.

Mainly it is because I want to do it and to live more Free than I ever have before. More free than seemingly most people even most Americans can even imagine.
Anyone who owns remote land in a desert, remote mountains etc. will hopefully know what I mean. I have tried and have quite a bit done what I have wanted and needed to do such as camp all summer for at least 24 summers mostly from mid June to mid Oct. some years into November.

I have built at least 4 storage sheds since 1990 and the nine foot deep underground cabin most seem to only want to call it a bunker.
HOW many people even in the USA are Free to do that even if they really really want to do and to build such things?

About people worrying about me is please DON'T As I have written before possibly too many times is people do not worry about me. I know that the photo of me and my amputated toes likely made me look weak and a failure at survival. All I can do is take it as a learning experience and much more. I have learned more from experiences than from any book or any know it alls constantly relentlessly trying to give me advice. Any advice that has been given I have heard it or most of the time I have already thought of it before.


About my "nest egg" life savings etc. "slipping away" again please just don't worry about it. I actually hate to tell so much more but next year I will be 62 and I might begin getting the Social Insecurity checks. I likely will wait a bit longer. No one should know or care how much I have in the bank or stashed away. My stored food plus many other supplies took quite a bit but they are a big and I think Very Important investment. I hate to tell this but if it helps I am supposed to get some oil checks as part of my inheritance also. Not real big but plenty for my needs and all I must tell about. If necessary I can work again for one or more neighbors with cabins and get paid maybe twenty dollars or more per hour. HOPE all of that helps. The only consolation is that likely not too many read all of my long posts.

So again and again anyone and Everyone Please do NOT worry about me. I very likely will become more and more of a hermit especially if no one will come up to help or just to visit the mountain retreat or Hold as a few call it. I plan to go so far off grid that I likely will not have any kind of phone except couple almost always turned off phones for emergencies.

I have planned to survive nuclear war and my next "project" is to plan to survive even Yellowstone exploding. I doubt it will ever happen very soon but within five or so years I plan to have more underground structures and strong above ground tunnels which are even more hidden and stronger with ten or so feet of snowpack.

IF I were to ever have one or more good people to help me then all the better. I Hope that Watch Ryder or one or two similar to him might join me at least for a couple months in the summer?!

I might sound angry but I am really not angry. Mtnairkin is one of the very few who has seen my mtn place. Not sure if he likes it but again I did not show him, Watch Ryder or anyone Everything.

I will likely post twenty or so pics sometime before this year ends. Here are a couple pics I took on my way out to the paved highway which was just one mile uphill from my mtn place. I stayed as long as I could possibly too long since much of the mile long private road was covered up to four feet with drifts higher and 3 feet of snow had fallen the previous week.

One of the pics is of my camper trailer when I had to leave it and one shows part of a hallway tunnel I was trying to build. More later when ever I buy a laptop which is a lot easier to type on than this phone!
My real life is on my mtn place. And anyone especially from July 1st to October 1st, the most snow free time, are welcome.



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Old 12-04-2019, 09:34 PM
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Good to hear an update,perhaps not exactly what you had envisioned this winter but probably a wise choice.I know our first heavy snow year there were days when I wondered if I had bitten off more than I could chew and our snow levels at 6500ft were nothing compared to yours. Yet the peace and tranquility of the mountains as well as the lack of hustle/bustle/smog drama that comes with the city life I do NOT miss ! Even when water lines freeze,generators wont start,solar system is in the red zone at 2am and the dog decides whatever he ate for lunch would look better on our new kitchen floor ! i again wish you continued good will,good health and success as YOU view it in the years to come as truly you only need please yourself,be happy,and enjoy your path ! Happy holidays !
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Thanks I guess, for all of that. I Hope you and many read and at least try to understand what I write. No way I can tell Everything but the more I post then the closer to everything.

I would most likely have at least a small but very good well stocked cabin on my land If I had not been severely injured plus other things that I will not go into again or ever. Btw, I think I have told more than most people on the net and especially on this huge forum many whom won't even tell what country they are in.

My previous recent post just a couple posts back #1134 is one more post where I tell more than ever especially why I do what I do. I likely did not fully tell Why I do and have done what I have done especially since I bought my mountain land the summer of 1987. Maybe it would take a book to fully tell Why and also how etc. etc. I do and have done what I have done especially on my mtn retreat.

Mainly it is because I want to do it and to live more Free than I ever have before. More free than seemingly most people even most Americans can even imagine.
Anyone who owns remote land in a desert, remote mountains etc. will hopefully know what I mean. I have tried and have quite a bit done what I have wanted and needed to do such as camp all summer for at least 24 summers mostly from mid June to mid Oct. some years into November.

I have built at least 4 storage sheds since 1990 and the nine foot deep underground cabin most seem to only want to call it a bunker.
HOW many people even in the USA are Free to do that even if they really really want to do and to build such things?

About people worrying about me is please DON'T As I have written before possibly too many times is people do not worry about me. I know that the photo of me and my amputated toes likely made me look weak and a failure at survival. All I can do is take it as a learning experience and much more. I have learned more from experiences than from any book or any know it alls constantly relentlessly trying to give me advice. Any advice that has been given I have heard it or most of the time I have already thought of it before.


About my "nest egg" life savings etc. "slipping away" again please just don't worry about it. I actually hate to tell so much more but next year I will be 62 and I might begin getting the Social Insecurity checks. I likely will wait a bit longer. No one should know or care how much I have in the bank or stashed away. My stored food plus many other supplies took quite a bit but they are a big and I think Very Important investment. I hate to tell this but if it helps I am supposed to get some oil checks as part of my inheritance also. Not real big but plenty for my needs and all I must tell about. If necessary I can work again for one or more neighbors with cabins and get paid maybe twenty dollars or more per hour. HOPE all of that helps. The only consolation is that likely not too many read all of my long posts.

So again and again anyone and Everyone Please do NOT worry about me. I very likely will become more and more of a hermit especially if no one will come up to help or just to visit the mountain retreat or Hold as a few call it. I plan to go so far off grid that I likely will not have any kind of phone except couple almost always turned off phones for emergencies.

I have planned to survive nuclear war and my next "project" is to plan to survive even Yellowstone exploding. I doubt it will ever happen very soon but within five or so years I plan to have more underground structures and strong above ground tunnels which are even more hidden and stronger with ten or so feet of snowpack.

IF I were to ever have one or more good people to help me then all the better. I Hope that Watch Ryder or one or two similar to him might join me at least for a couple months in the summer?!

I might sound angry but I am really not angry. Mtnairkin is one of the very few who has seen my mtn place. Not sure if he likes it but again I did not show him, Watch Ryder or anyone Everything.

I will likely post twenty or so pics sometime before this year ends. Here are a couple pics I took on my way out to the paved highway which was just one mile uphill from my mtn place. I stayed as long as I could possibly too long since much of the mile long private road was covered up to four feet with drifts higher and 3 feet of snow had fallen the previous week.

One of the pics is of my camper trailer when I had to leave it and one shows part of a hallway tunnel I was trying to build. More later when ever I buy a laptop which is a lot easier to type on than this phone!
My real life is on my mtn place. And anyone especially from July 1st to October 1st, the most snow free time, are welcome.



Mike - you don't need to worry about being judged by people here.

You are already have done and are doing a lot more wilderness living than almost anyone here.

Anyone who achieves 100% success in all their life endeavors is not attempting enough tough challenges.

Be at peace with yourself - you are doing fine.
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I haven't read all of this so definitely don't know the details.
But I think what you are doing is awesome. If you made a decision to come off the mountain for the winter then you must have had good reasons to do so.
Keep it up! I'm not in a position to pull off something like what you are doing right now so I have to live vicariously through you.
When I get closer to retiring I plan to set up a place in the mountains here.

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I haven't read all of this so definitely don't know the details.
But I think what you are doing is awesome. If you made a decision to come off the mountain for the winter then you must have had good reasons to do so.
Keep it up! I'm not in a position to pull off something like what you are doing right now so I have to live vicariously through you.
When I get closer to retiring I plan to set up a place in the mountains here.

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Thanks to everyone who has responded. I know that mtnairkin and some others wish to give me advice and it is mostly appreciated. BUT as I have written before about all advice I have thought of already or I just will not or even cannot do what they advise. Such as my moving to Arizona etc. for the winter. I could go into details why I will and cannot move too far but in short it would be too expensive and so far Wyoming is the only state I wish to live in for many reasons.

I could also respond more such as to Eddie about my writing a book. If / when I get the time and inspiration I would write a book. Here in a city just too many distractions and I think the best and only place for me to possibly write a book is on my land especially during the winter. First I must get it all set up well to be more comfortable and do many other things such as clean out four sheds, dismantle at least two sheds and build some other things that I want and need to build. Clean more and reorganize the bunker for one thing plus a Lot more.

To answer Black Dog about my reasons for leaving my mtn retreat this past Nov. 29th are many.
Here are as many reasons as I can think of right now but mainly I just couldn't get the camper trailer warm enough. Many people with cabins etc have large propane tanks. Very expensive and more costly to have a propane truck come up such as in September to fill those real large tanks.

I did sleep live in my bunker for four days nights but I just did not have enough split firewood. My huge two stacks of firewood were about 200 feet away from the bunker. Most of those large stacks of firewood need to be cut into smaller logs or even split.
And when I left there was almost four feet of snow. Hope you saw the two pics I posted. And very difficult to cook or take a shower etc etc. I had gone more than a month with no shower. Being by myself no problem with no shower but I would like to know of anyone else who has went a month or more with no shower and being too cold to even wash up much.

I also came back to this small city to get more comfortable after wearing about all of my winter clothing constantly and losing far too much weight. I know I lost at least 20 pounds since July 8th. There was still two foot snow drifts on my land even on July 8, 2019. The fastest and shortest summer ever.

I also almost everyday had various pains and with near zero temps more pain. I have not had any phantom missing toe pain since I moved into this cheap motel. I also am trying to gain weight which has always been difficult for me to do my entire life. Plus buy a bit more as I think of what I will need when I go back up to the mtn retreat in June or July at the very latest...
Well more later especially in a few days I will post new pics and more info. MM
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Blah blah blah .... more of the same delusional stuff...
You plan this, you plan that ... start one thing and finish it before you plan 10 other.

You call yourself a survivor, yet you even had not prepare enough firewood for the winter, or at least have it readily available and easy to reach. To make it even worse, you know that area, you know how harsh the winters are .... and still you did not prepare the basic.

4 feet of snow and could not split the firewood? Give me a break ...
I lived for 25 years in the area where snow was waist high for about 6 months per year and did my fair share of cutting, chopping and splitting wood which was quite often buried under snow.

First snowfall and you bail ... again. People want to help you with the advice and you dismiss them.

You will never spend the winter in your so called hold, or a hole in the ground. If you do, I am afraid it will be your last.

Before you go on and call me a spammer, a russian spy, mexican immigrant or any other thing you can think of, remember this is a public forum where you voluntarily post your little fairy tale stories, to which I as everyone else have a right to comment and/or express my opinion.

Now, do your best, assassinate my character.
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Blah blah blah .... more of the same delusional stuff...
You plan this, you plan that ... start one thing and finish it before you plan 10 other.

You call yourself a survivor, yet you even had not prepare enough firewood for the winter, or at least have it readily available and easy to reach. To make it even worse, you know that area, you know how harsh the winters are .... and still you did not prepare the basic.

4 feet of snow and could not split the firewood? Give me a break ...
I lived for 25 years in the area where snow was waist high for about 6 months per year and did my fair share of cutting, chopping and splitting wood which was quite often buried under snow.

First snowfall and you bail ... again. People want to help you with the advice and you dismiss them.

You will never spend the winter in your so called hold, or a hole in the ground. If you do, I am afraid it will be your last.

Before you go on and call me a spammer, a russian spy, mexican immigrant or any other thing you can think of, remember this is a public forum where you voluntarily post your little fairy tale stories, to which I as everyone else have a right to comment and/or express my opinion.

Now, do your best, assassinate my character.
WHAT character?? I am mainly quoting and responding some to show more of what I have had to put up with on the net but especially on this "Survivalist"boards for the past ten years. grunf ( what an appropriate name ) is pure troll posting simply to ridicule and get people upset.

I quickly looked over grunf's 18 posts and looks like it came out of the woodwork after a year. I used to really like posting on this S-boards especially 5 and more years ago when there were many true survivalists who actually did real survival in the real world not so much like today which is mostly politics and still trolls around.

And how are my posts backed up with real photos and real information "fairy tales" ?

You "grunf" wrote you lived in an area for 25 years with waist high snow? Yet you will not give even a general area such as the Rocky Mountains or the Pacific NW or anywhere? You spout much but No back up or proof of what you have supposedly done.

I just post some photos that Prove what I write. I can keep going on defending what I did and what happened. But with most who don't care or such as you "grunf" who just post to ridicule. If "grunf" is Not a troll then what is it??

The first troll in the year 2000 posted "isn't it about time you go back to your hole in the ground?" I remember a lot although try to forget But nasty ridiculing "people" on the net and in real life have inspired me to work harder and do what I need and want to do.

By the way, the snow began falling the day after the Florida guy left October 10th. And it kept snowing off and on until there was 2 feet of snow by October 21st. I went to town - Saratoga - to get many more supplies and even right now my pickup truck is more than half filled in the bed and packed full in the extended cab back seat.

The main quote from "grunf's" rabid ridiculing post which is a pure Lie > "
First snowfall and you bail ... again" From October 10th the first snow which was six inches to Nov. 29th 4 feet I was up there wearing my best winter clothing and I did stay warm. The very first snow was around October first but it all melted in a few days. In the previous post to grunf's post I told most of the reasons I went back to a city.


And "grunf" waist high is nothing. By March and April there is usually Ten feet of snowpack. Up to 400 or more inches of snowfall up there and it over the long winter compresses down to 120 or so inches of snowpack. Some years less but quite a few years more than 120 inches.

In post #1141 the post just before "grunf's" I told many of the reasons I moved back to town. I still have plenty of money and while being cold and uncomfortable and knowing that the snow and cold would be getting worse and worse more than most people experience or can endure, I thought I might as well go back to town and gain my weight back and get stronger for next year. The pains I mentioned earlier were quite a bit and Much more of a reason for leaving my mtn place than simply the extreme cold and snow. One pain that would not go away was in my lower right side and I was hoping it was not appendicitis! I am mostly sure it was just bad gas pain etc. I have no pain now at least.

I could go on but of course it is a waste of time and effort to respond to ridiculing lying trolls like grunf. I like this S-boards for the most part but there are still way too many trolls, ridiculers etc. around. I only keep posting because there are still a few good people here and this is the main place I post some pics to Prove what I have done unlike many who do not Do anything but sit behind their computer or smart phone or whatever and harass anyone who tries to share and tell some about what they do in Real life.


Every neighbor with a cabin or who only goes up there on a few weekends, even some only go up there on a few summer holidays and never go up there in the winter. I did just stay much longer than I usually do and next summer maybe a little longer until I do move up there permanently. If no one ever hears from me again then likely it is because I have went completely off grid and never go to a town or motel or even library to post again. And it will be a big relief in many ways just to never see trolls, ridiculers and varmints like the "grunf" !

More Real life photos from me soon whenever I get more inspired to spend an hour or more posting and explaining what is in the Real photos I show such as throughout this and ten other Real life picture threads!
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