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Since having a canoe is considered Cultural Appropriation, I suggest a Kayak. Oh wait, can't have that one either.

Seriously, you can haul more stuff in a canoe, so I'd go with that.
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Old towns are nice, but my Wilderness Systems commander 120 hits the water like a champ.

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I really like tripping canoes which are designed for overnight trips. I have had a couple of great ones, a Sawyer Charger that was 18 1/2 feet long and 15 inches deep. I have an Old Town Guide 18 made out of red cedar and canvas from 1951. Boats of this size are fast and can haul larger people, the dogs, a small cooler and some furntiture for a week long trip. I would never own a 15 foot canoe. It is like a toy in comparison.
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Originally Posted by Guntoteninfadel View Post
I have had both and for me it depends on what your going to do with it.

I got rid of all the short kayaks! Yuk, way too much effort to cover any ground whatsoever. Replaced them with Malibu SOT two person, its only 12' but tracks like a dream compared to the 6-8' yaks I had been paddling. I get on average about 60% more speed (gps) and much easier to paddle a straight line!

I love to fish out of a kayak, much more so than a canoe. Having said that I also very seldom ever get out of dead calm water. I pray for current to the point I have rigged sails for any additional help paddling!

When my son and I go camping we take 2 kayaks, both 2 seaters as you can actually get all your stuff on/in board and still have room to fish. When my girlfriend and I go camping we take the family canoe........ She is just not comfortable with being in her own yak and its not possible to load me, her and the kitchen sink on one of the two seaters.

hope this helps?

Good luck!

i am also can't understand that which will be best for me because i can't afford both kayak and canoe so i need one that can use for every time for solo and with family that's why i am finding light weight and log canoe as i explain first that i can't afford both i can't waist money to test so i was finding some one that have much experience like you. your post was in 2016 that represent that you have more then 5 year experience and so say in your post that you have both canoe and kayak so can explain me better....
Any canoe for solo and with family canoeing....?
best long and light weight canoe.....?
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One thing to think about in canoes is initial stability and secondary stability.
Your flat bottom canoes ( aluminum like gruman ,osagian)have tons of initial stability and no secondary.
Initial stability makes many more comfortable but are less sea worthy than one with secondary stability. The initail ones (flat bottom) will follow the waves while the ones with secondary will go through the waves ( the more you tip them the more they resist being tipped).
I've had both and like both designs for different reasons .
I have a Old town 174 (great for long trips huge carrying cap but heavy to portage)and a 15' Curtis solo tripper.
The Curtis will teach you about balance until you get used to it.
After the learning curve you will be able to lean it over to the gunale and just about do a 180 with a J stroke.
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WHAT are you really looking for?
Load carrying?
more than one person?
weight for handling or throwing around?

I spent a LOT of my early life in boats and lots of time in canoes. I have tried kayaks but I found them to be not so friendly if you are bigger than the average two legged mammal.

I have run the gamut of real canvas and pine ribbed canoes that are a hundred years old to the aluminum canoes found everywhere, to a couple different Old Town glass jobs. They all have their plus and minus's

These days, I run Meyer's Sportspal canoes.
They are not as sleek as some others but they are stable and light and very forgiving. At 70+ now I am not quite the athlete I used to be and I really like how light compared to everything else .
I actually have 2 of them now.. a 12foot
and a square stern for mounting a motor if I am feeling lazy.

Both of mine are in OD green from years ago. If you hunt Craigs you can find them at the end of the year when folks realize they are going to have to store them for the winter and decide they want the space more than the canoe.

I can easily throw either of them up on the Jeep or truck without hurting myself.
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