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Old 08-23-2019, 09:49 PM
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Scary new bureaucracy bill in the house.

A BILL

To develop a national strategy to prevent targeted violence through behavioral threat assessment and management, and for other purposes.

The task for makes it's own rules. No Congressional oversight. Only required to send to submit an annual report.

(1)*RULES AND PROCEDURES.—Any member of the Task Force may propose to develop or change existing operating rules and procedures of the Task Force consistent with the functions of the Task Force. Any change to such operating rules and procedures shall be adopted upon a majority vote of the Task Force.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...-bill/838/text

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What could possibley go wrong with that?
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Yah what could go wrong. I see re-education camps much like China has to re-educate Moslems only in this case, those that do not fit the mold of the Socialist hive here in America. From Bill...….(2) BEHAVIORAL THREAT ASSESSMENT AND MANAGEMENT.—The term “behavioral threat assessment and management” means the systematic and evidence-based process of—


(A) identifying individuals who are exhibiting patterns of concerning behavior that indicate an interest, motive, intention, or capability of carrying out an act of violence;



(B) investigating and gathering information from multiple sources to assess whether an individual described in subparagraph (A) poses a threat, based on articulable facts; and



(C) the subsequent management of such a threat, if necessary.
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If we want our caring big brother to protect us we have to give him the power to arrest, detain, and reeducate thought criminals. Remember, the essential ingredient in all crime is thoughtcrime; do away with thoughtcrime and there will be no crime.

We are being hit with a massive propaganda blitz telling us that the "white nationalist" is the most dangerous terrorist of all. And a close look at that propaganda makes clear that white nationalist is liberalspeak for patriot. So the patriot is the most dangerous of all thought criminals.

Trump and his comrades in Congress are trying to make it possible for our caring big brother to disarm thought criminals through the coming red flag laws. This is an exercise in futility though, since it is proven fact that the biggest mass murders have all been committed with things other than guns, and these mass weapons are easy to get and use. So for us to be truly protected, thought criminals must be locked up, unless and until they can be cured.

Whether a cure is possible though is problematic, since the thought criminals, or deplorables as they were called by the high seer of liberalism Hillary Clinton, were at the same time called "irredeemable," which means they can't be fixed. If High Seer Hillary says they can't be fixed, maybe it's best to just keep them locked up. But it won't hurt to try curing them anyway I suppose; it'll be a good job for enlightened liberal fellows who need a job. (In fact I'm sure there are multitudes of internet trolls who fantasize about having such a job.)

Our caring big brother has long tried to protect us by purging thoughtcrime from our society, through threats of expulsion and indoctrination in the schools, backed up by the mass propaganda of liberal media. High tech giants like Facebook and Google also take part in that effort, heroically purging their platforms of thoughtcrime and thought criminals. But many subjects simply do not respond to these cures, and must be locked up for our protection. And maybe they will be cured, by more concentrated treatment.

Patriotism of course is only one of the thoughtcrimes we will be protected from. There is also Christianity (which includes heterosexism and sexist pigism, among other thoughtcrimes), capitalism, gun nutism, Constitutional fundamentalism, two-genderism, disagreeing with the government, and who knows what other thoughtcrimes they will discover.

You should welcome this. You do want our loving big brother to protect us don't you? Just don't commit thoughtcrime (or if you do, make sure you don't get caught), and you don't have anything to worry about. The smiling people on TV will let you know what thought is allowed; just follow their lead and you will be fine.

So stop being paranoid. Your caring big brother just wants to keep you safe.
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LE has been utilizing behavioral threat assessments for years.

The National Threat Assessment Center (NTAC) utilizes such to provide guidance on threat assessment and training. NaBITA even offers a certification in the discipline.

Furthermore, there is congressional oversight written within the bill.

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(f) Report to Congress.óNot later than 1 year after the date of enactment of this Act and each year thereafter, the Secretary shall submit to the appropriate committees of Congress a report on any action taken to implement the national strategy, which shall include the following:

(1) Information relating to the number of detailees hired (on a full-time equivalent basis).

(2) Information relating to the number of, and use of, contracts entered into with public agencies or private entities, as required under subsection (d).

(3) Information relating to the number of entities participating in the Behavioral Threat Assessment and Management Training Program under section 5(3).

(4) Information relating to the number of educational entities participating in the Behavioral Threat Assessment and Management School Violence Prevention Program under section 5(4).

(5) Information relating to the number of Federal, State, local, and Tribal law enforcement entities participating in the Behavioral Threat Assessment and Management Unit Support Program under section 5(2).

(6) Information relating to the number of States participating in the Behavioral Threat Assessment and Management Grant Program under section 8.

(7) A formal evaluation conducted by the Homeland Security Studies and Analysis Institute of the Department of Homeland Security studying the implementation and effectiveness of the national strategy.

(8) Information relating to the level of cooperation between Federal Government agencies in the implementation of the strategy.

(9) An assessment of future trends, challenges, and opportunities, including new technologies, that will impact Federal, State, local, and Tribal government agency efforts to combat targeted violence through behavioral threat assessment and management.

(10) A detailed accounting of the use of the waiver authority described in section 8(d).

(g) Annual briefing.óNot later than 1 year after the date of enactment of this Act and each year thereafter, the Secretary shall brief the appropriate committees of Congress on the progress, changes, and other developments with respect to implementing the national strategy.
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"White nationalist" use the term white nationalist. This is fact. It's not "liberspeak for patriot."
What he was stating, is that left wingers label anybody and everybody with whom they disagree, with such or similar terms.

Because I am white, proud to be American, and tend to take a more political right view...I too am at risk to realistically be labelled as such.
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More Person Of Interest than Minority Report but no less creepy and the sponsor was Brian Babin most definitely not a RINO or a Dem.
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What he was stating, is that left wingers label anybody and everybody with whom they disagree, with such or similar terms.

Because I am white, proud to be American, and tend to take a more political right view...I too am at risk to realistically be labelled as such.
I'm a downright "hate monger" because I think it's okay to be white and because I'm proud of my European heritage. It matters not that I don't "hate" anyone.
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Facts=trolling on this board apparently.

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Perhaps your trolling will backfire and you'll be ushered out of here before you waste too much of our time. Bu-bye now.
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Facts=trolling on this board apparently.
I never step on Moderator actions. They work too hard and have my utmost respect and they are almost always right. Dealing with some of this crap is enough to drive a person nuts.

I restored this singular post because I want everyone to see it. This board is full of facts, life saving facts. And you, Nate, calling out the forum as a whole, is a cowards way out of facing actual facts. Nothing you have said here is a "fact". And that is fact. The press throws "White Nationalism" around like a chain smoker drops butts and loses lighters. You are an instigator and of no value to this prepper board. I have reviewed your posting history and I think it is time for you to voluntarily leave before I put the boot to your ass.
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Sure I'll voluntarily leave because after what I'm going to say you'll ban me anyway. You are just a coward with a ban hammer. That's all. You're the guy who stabbed the former owner in the back, right? How are you still moderating here? This place is a joke, a sinking ship and it is apparent that you are one of the main reasons.

You should know that I have a screen grabbed you post and it will be reported to the owners of this site. To show how you treat members here. Not only do you support extremist views like above, but you are a flat out liar. Acting like this is and American forum. It's owned by a firm in Canada. We are going to see what they think about you support extremism on this site. Enjoy being "under the hot lamp" as you said to me in another thread before actually even reading what transpired. You are a disgrace.

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I never step on Moderator actions. They work too hard and have my utmost respect and they are almost always right. Dealing with some of this crap is enough to drive a person nuts. My quote 5 posts up is a fact that you don't like obviously, I wonder why?

I restored this singular post because I want everyone to see it. This board is full of facts, life saving facts. And you, Nate, calling out the forum as a whole, is a cowards way out of facing actual facts. Nothing you have said here is a "fact". And that is fact. The press throws "White Nationalism" around like a chain smoker drops butts and loses lighters. You are an instigator and of no value to this prepper board. I have reviewed your posting history and I think it is time for you to voluntarily leave before I put the boot to your ass.
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I guess I missed something since I last posted. (NateMeans). The guy is an example of why America is losing it's 1st Amendment IMO. Anyway here is something I found that is going on in the UK in a big way. Probably in the US as well.. What bothers me, is what kind of a world are handing over to our Grandkids. A Prison?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...on-epidemic-uk
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4th and 5th Amendment says...”WHAT????”
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Sure I'll voluntarily leave...
The only part of the post that means anything worthwhile. If Nate doesn't leave, it just means that in addition to everything else, he'll be a liar.

Buh-bye Nate (hopefully). You ****ing POS troll.
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Googles role in the dystopian prison. Googles role in the dystopian prison of 1984. Mind control through limiting free speech. Just think it of a dictionary or an encyclopedia that is always changing meanings and re educating you. Molding you to the HIVE.
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I'm a downright "hate monger" because I think it's okay to be white and because I'm proud of my European heritage. It matters not that I don't "hate" anyone.
it's not the hate they hate, it's the monging
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You would chime in. You would support a back stabber. In what universe would MTShawn still be working here? Only a disfuctional one.What are you going to do when the federals shut this place down?

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The only part of the post that means anything worthwhile. If Nate doesn't leave, it just means that in addition to everything else, he'll be a liar.

Buh-bye Nate (hopefully). You ****ing POS troll.
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All I did was post a simple fact, was attacked by the extremist, reported the post, and then was attacked by MTShawn. Who treats members this way? 3/4 of my post are in the prep forums. They wonder why this place is done. We'll see how he likes the attention now from corporate, and beyond. Even if he is only a volunteer.

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I guess I missed something since I last posted. (NateMeans). The guy is an example of why America is losing it's 1st Amendment IMO. Anyway here is something I found that is going on in the UK in a big way. Probably in the US as well.. What bothers me, is what kind of a world are handing over to our Grandkids. A Prison?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...on-epidemic-uk
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Sure I'll voluntarily leave because after what I'm going to say you'll ban me anyway. You are just a coward with a ban hammer. That's all. You're the guy who stabbed the former owner in the back, right? How are you still moderating here? This place is a joke, a sinking ship and it is apparent that you are one of the main reasons.

You should know that I have a screen grabbed you post and it will be reported to the owners of this site. To show how you treat members here. Not only do you support extremist views like above, but you are a flat out liar. Acting like this is and American forum. It's owned by a firm in Canada. We are going to see what they think about you support extremism on this site. Enjoy being "under the hot lamp" as you said to me in another thread before actually even reading what transpired. You are a disgrace.
Shawn doesnít even need to waist the time banning you. Iíll do it for the good of all man kind.
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I would not consider an annual report oversight. This task force can make their own policy and operate for a year before sending a written report. Of course we know this annual report will be truthful and factful.

Congressional oversight refers to oversight by the United States Congress on the Executive Branch, including the numerous U.S. federal agencies. Congressional oversight refers to the review, monitoring, and supervision of federal agencies, programs, activities, and policy implementation.

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LE has been utilizing behavioral threat assessments for years.

The National Threat Assessment Center (NTAC) utilizes such to provide guidance on threat assessment and training. NaBITA even offers a certification in the discipline.

Furthermore, there is congressional oversight written within the bill.

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(f) Report to Congress.—Not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of this Act and each year thereafter, the Secretary shall submit to the appropriate committees of Congress a report on any action taken to implement the national strategy, which shall include the following:

(1) Information relating to the number of detailees hired (on a full-time equivalent basis).

(2) Information relating to the number of, and use of, contracts entered into with public agencies or private entities, as required under subsection (d).

(3) Information relating to the number of entities participating in the Behavioral Threat Assessment and Management Training Program under section 5(3).

(4) Information relating to the number of educational entities participating in the Behavioral Threat Assessment and Management School Violence Prevention Program under section 5(4).

(5) Information relating to the number of Federal, State, local, and Tribal law enforcement entities participating in the Behavioral Threat Assessment and Management Unit Support Program under section 5(2).

(6) Information relating to the number of States participating in the Behavioral Threat Assessment and Management Grant Program under section 8.

(7) A formal evaluation conducted by the Homeland Security Studies and Analysis Institute of the Department of Homeland Security studying the implementation and effectiveness of the national strategy.

(8) Information relating to the level of cooperation between Federal Government agencies in the implementation of the strategy.

(9) An assessment of future trends, challenges, and opportunities, including new technologies, that will impact Federal, State, local, and Tribal government agency efforts to combat targeted violence through behavioral threat assessment and management.

(10) A detailed accounting of the use of the waiver authority described in section 8(d).

(g) Annual briefing.—Not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of this Act and each year thereafter, the Secretary shall brief the appropriate committees of Congress on the progress, changes, and other developments with respect to implementing the national strategy.
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