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Old 08-20-2019, 11:38 PM
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After Trump blames mental illness for mass shootings, health agencies ordered to hold all posts on issue

So apparently the gun did do it by itself, or made them do it against their will. Which clearly isn't a sign of mental problems.
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You have to be mentally ill to gun down innocent people.

You have to be mentally inept to be a liberal.
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Given the DemLib level of rationality, and their imperfect grasp of language, law or ethics, I would profoundly distrust anything they might spout about mental health. Would be like a blind from birth person trying to tell those of us with sight how to sort colors.
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You have to remember these are the same people who thinking homeless people living outside in their own filth are just "people experiencing homelessness" rather than whack-a-doodle drug addicts or mental patients.
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The people who spoke for the mental illness industry qualified their statement with "diagnosed" mental illness.


Word tricks to mask an agenda.
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It's an article by a WaPo writer.

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violence most often associated with mental illness is suicide
Psychologist I knew many years ago told me that suicide among younger people is almost always an act of aggression against family, or society in general. What better way to amplify the statement by killing a bunch of strangers at the same time?
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You have to remember these are the same people who thinking homeless people living outside in their own filth are just "people experiencing homelessness" rather than whack-a-doodle drug addicts or mental patience.
Additionally, many on the left said that those who "deny climate change, should be locked up" as in they're mentally impaired from blindly accepting an unscientific premise. Now there is another movement to label belief of religion (of course, only Christian/Bible-based religions) as a mental illness. The path will eventually lead to gun ownership=mental illness; political opposition=mental illness; subscribing to any form of prepper/survivalist hobby=mental illness; living off-grid/independent from government=mental illness. The Left will continue to define "mental illness" to suit their needs.

When the doctors and psychiatrists work for the government, it will be a lot easier for bureaucrats to define and get support for mental illness.

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So when the TX shooter's lawyer enters an insanity or mentally unstable plea and has several expert psychologists back it up the communists will say the guns made them insane. Since the shooter wasn't "diagnosed" before they committed the shooting of course he wasn't "diagnosed" with mental illness
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So when the TX shooter's lawyer enters an insanity or mentally unstable plea and has several expert psychologists back it up the communists will say the guns made them insane. Since the shooter wasn't "diagnosed" before they committed the shooting of course he wasn't "diagnosed" with mental illness
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Which like I said before, I think that if you think a gun either makes someone go crazy & kill people through no fault of the killer or the gun itself walks around killing people all by itself, then that person is suffering from a serious mental disorder. Like someone else pointed out, liberalism itself is a mental disorder, it just hasn't been officially recognized by the medical community.

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liberalism itself is a mental disorder, it just hasn't been officially recognized by the medical community.
Bingo.....
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because "illegal aliens" is the same as "undocumented immigrants"...

smh...
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Mental illness doesn't cover all of it, I think.

The expressed motives of folks the El Paso shooter, the Garlic Festival shooter, the Synagogue Shooter, Charleston Church Shooter, and a few others, was that they were radicalized by an ideology.

Just like fundamental Islam of the 00's, there is a growing undercurrent of folks that want to use violent means to instill terror into those they disagree with. The common thread in many of the recent shooters is that they're 4chan/8chan political believers.

I've been on both sites. It's mostly just kids posting dumb ****. But there is a real vein in there of folks wanting to promote white nationalism and want to achieve that with a civil war.

Young men are being robbed of a place in society. It's the same reason kids without father figures join gangs or terrorist cells. They're young, confused, have nowhere to feel like they're accepted, so they go out to the fringes in search of it.

I blame the lack of fatherhood that's happened in the USA. 1 in 4 kids today are raised without a father. Manhood is considered to be a dirty word in popular media. It's a toxic environment for young men, and that's who keeps getting lured into these extremist communities and eventually lash out.

I'm all for equal rights, but this trend of ****ting on men has got to stop. I doubt any of the shooters above would have done what they did if they had a good family structure and a place in society they felt like they contributed to.
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Mental illness has become a catch-all term for something that is not fully understood. If an action contradicts what we believe in, they must be mentally ill. The liberal mindset won't touch mental illness, too close to home for most of them.

I can agree with society failing many young people, but people are not as mentally tough as they used to be. The adage "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger" is not in their playbook. What doesn't kill them breaks them down yet another notch. Just another brick in the wall...

The war on men has gelded many a father or father-figure and now they are going after the boys and young men. If you don't have enough alpha in you, you will be susceptible to what society dumps on you.

Social media is a killer in itself. Local to me, we have had kids at age 16 or 17 commit suicide over bullying on FB. Most of these kids see a shooting spree as the end of the road for them.. they are out of options.
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Mental illness has become a catch-all term for something that is not fully understood. If an action contradicts what we believe in, they must be mentally ill. The liberal mindset won't touch mental illness, too close to home for most of them.

I can agree with society failing many young people, but people are not as mentally tough as they used to be. The adage "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger" is not in their playbook. What doesn't kill them breaks them down yet another notch. Just another brick in the wall...

The war on men has gelded many a father or father-figure and now they are going after the boys and young men. If you don't have enough alpha in you, you will be susceptible to what society dumps on you.

Social media is a killer in itself. Local to me, we have had kids at age 16 or 17 commit suicide over bullying on FB. Most of these kids see a shooting spree as the end of the road for them.. they are out of options.
In the late '60s I was in college, in Boston. That was the beginning of the "deinstitutionalization" cause which eventually emptied and closed our mental hospitals. I still remember thinking at the time that the people who most strongly pushed the meme were those who were just as crazy as the inmates, and knew it.

On the social media - I spent a vacation week in (2012?) with daughter #1's family, in Idaho. Son-in-law and both boys would sit together on lawn chairs with their noses in their iPhones for hours on end. No human-to-human contact at all. Grandson #1 seems to have come out OK, but #2 is IMHO a budding sociopath. Not stupid, not violent, but I'm pretty sure he'll wind up as a lawyer.
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So.....


In other words...


The mentally ill don't want us blaming the mentally ill


Who knew...
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You have to remember these are the same people who thinking homeless people living outside in their own filth are just "people experiencing homelessness" rather than whack-a-doodle drug addicts or mental patients.
They also think Bruce Jenner is a woman.
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Liberals think you should not own a gun.

There ins't anything more than this.
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Mental illness doesn't cover all of it, I think.

The expressed motives of folks the El Paso shooter, the Garlic Festival shooter, the Synagogue Shooter, Charleston Church Shooter, and a few others, was that they were radicalized by an ideology.

Just like fundamental Islam of the 00's, there is a growing undercurrent of folks that want to use violent means to instill terror into those they disagree with. The common thread in many of the recent shooters is that they're 4chan/8chan political believers.

I've been on both sites. It's mostly just kids posting dumb ****. But there is a real vein in there of folks wanting to promote white nationalism and want to achieve that with a civil war.

Young men are being robbed of a place in society. It's the same reason kids without father figures join gangs or terrorist cells. They're young, confused, have nowhere to feel like they're accepted, so they go out to the fringes in search of it.

I blame the lack of fatherhood that's happened in the USA. 1 in 4 kids today are raised without a father. Manhood is considered to be a dirty word in popular media. It's a toxic environment for young men, and that's who keeps getting lured into these extremist communities and eventually lash out.

I'm all for equal rights, but this trend of ****ting on men has got to stop. I doubt any of the shooters above would have done what they did if they had a good family structure and a place in society they felt like they contributed to.
A mental deficiency allows one to fall for radicalism pushed by others.

Not having the ability to think for oneself is a mental disorder.

Not being able to accept what you see right in front of you because others tell you it’s wrong is a mental disorder.

Everyone suffers from this at least occasionally, for others it’s a lifetime.
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http://dcwhispers.com/report-of-the-...entee-fathers/

Seems that fatherlessness has a significant correlation to young males going nuts.
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They also think Bruce Jenner is a woman.
That in itself would be a mental illness.
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