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Old 08-17-2019, 08:09 AM
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I'm voting against Democrats.

If that's voting for Trump...so be it. But if Trump can't run and someone else is nominated to run against the Dems, they'll get my vote.
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Yes, President Trump is trying to do the right thing. Some of those hurt. Other things that affect the economy he has not control over. Many stocks are over priced. A much needed correction of those are beyond the President's control.

I do believe the FED cutting interest rates is the right thing now. However it will create an inverted yield curve. That will be a downturn sign to many when it is only a reaction to current condition to prevent a hard downturn.
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No offence towards you, I know deep down your a good person and your only misguided.

You may be the worst judge of character I have ever run across. That, or extremely naive. That thing that calls itself JoJo is a coward and a liar. It knows it, too.
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The economy is going to tank, no matter who is elected. All that changes is who is taxed and who is bribed.
All we know is that no matter who wins, taxes will go up, deficits will go up, debt service will go up, inflation will go up, buying power will go down, and if you're in one of those marginal jobs about to be terminated, due to economic pressures, you will be hurting.
Congress is already borrowing more than it pays in debt service. That is what Bernie Madoff is in jail for doing in the private sector.
Eventually, the supply of new investors willing to underwrite deficits will balk, since they will realize that their principal is lost, too.
Then the dominoes fall.
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The economy is going to tank, no matter who is elected. All that changes is who is taxed and who is bribed.
All we know is that no matter who wins, taxes will go up, deficits will go up, debt service will go up, inflation will go up, buying power will go down, and if you're in one of those marginal jobs about to be terminated, due to economic pressures, you will be hurting.
Congress is already borrowing more than it pays in debt service. That is what Bernie Madoff is in jail for doing in the private sector.
Eventually, the supply of new investors willing to underwrite deficits will balk, since they will realize that their principal is lost, too.
Then the dominoes fall.
You're wasting your e-breath but I commend your attempt. Our political system is made up of two sides of the same coin. Both are for gun control; both love war; both spend money as if it can be printed on a whim (oh wait ... it is printed on a whim); both are members of the CFR; both are members of the Trilateral Commission; both sides are for spying on the American people.

What's it boil down to? It's all about what color jersey you wear. It's a game and the American people are the baseballs getting smacked by the political bat.
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Who said I was voting for him again anyway?
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Your side needs to find a moderate Dem.
What moderate dem?

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So far it's Trump vs. spawn of satan.

easy choice.
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Just wondering, I will. I think this latest glitch was a msm induced and spread, fear based test to see if "they" could influence the monetary system at will. Msm is still raking it over the coals days later.

The economy is the last and only thing thing left that the TRAITORS can use to get President Trump out of the White House. Nothing else has worked, nor will it.
His base will remain strong. It’s the fence sitters he might have to worry about..
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Voted for him because thought he would protect and expand gun rights. With these red flags laws spreading state by state to include conservative states I see it really makes no difference. Might as well let dems win to start and really ignite the fight cuz a lot of so called 2nd amendment patriots just can’t challenge the deporter-n- chief. At least with a dem I know the fight will a lot more ferocious.

Thinking of giving the nod to Biden. Seems like the best option to mitigate damage.
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I voted for Trump (with no expectation that he would win) simply because I saw it giving me four more years to prepare for the inevitable. And it is inevitable. Trump supporters today don't seem to realize that he just BARELY won. I mean barely. All it's gonna take is a few more Mexicans, Somalis, Hondurans, and Syrians strategically planted here and there, and a little bit more vote fraud, and it will all be over. Immigration, illegal and otherwise, hasn't exactly come to a screeching halt, and the balance will soon be flipped. I would be incredibly shocked to see Trump win a second term. And even if he does, it will still be all over after that.
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They'll illegally pass whatever laws they want, hell, look around, they been doing just that for the last 200 years. As far as RF goes, I never cared what they pass. Someone pulls some illegitimate crap, they'll be on the snotty end of that f stick, real fast.
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Just wondering, I will. I think this latest glitch was a msm induced and spread, fear based test to see if "they" could influence the monetary system at will. Msm is still raking it over the coals days later.

The economy is the last and only thing thing left that the TRAITORS can use to get President Trump out of the White House. Nothing else has worked, nor will it.
No doubt in my mind that I would vote for him again. His opposition brings nothing to the party.
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So far it's Trump vs. spawn of satan.

easy choice.
The entire narrative is under the control of the Deep State. It's a huge "reality TV show" with Trump and his enemies as the stars of the show. The Deep State moves the Dems farther to the left than they've ever been before and casts them into the most evil and vile monsters we can imagine. Everyone shudders at the idea that these horrible gun-grabbers may reach high, political office. So, in desperation, everyone runs to the shelter of Trump's political wing. He, of course, is cast as our "last hope" and the Hero of the movie.

Then what does the Deep State do? They use Trump to usher in the gun control that everyone thought was the role of the "Dem Monsters." Then years from now ... everyone looks back and realizes they've been duped ... again.
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I voted for Trump (with no expectation that he would win) simply because I saw it giving me four more years to prepare for the inevitable. And it is inevitable. Trump supporters today don't seem to realize that he just BARELY won. I mean barely. All it's gonna take is a few more Mexicans, Somalis, Hondurans, and Syrians strategically planted here and there, and a little bit more vote fraud, and it will all be over. Immigration, illegal and otherwise, hasn't exactly come to a screeching halt, and the balance will soon be flipped. I would be incredibly shocked to see Trump win a second term. And even if he does, it will still be all over after that.
And, of course, he ostracized those of us who love the 2A. Granted ... it's clear that there's only a teeny-tiny, small handful of us but it may have cost him reelection.
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I think it's sad that ANYONE gets votes for the lesser of two evils bit. What a sham it all is.

I've given up on politics and politicians. Since I see no one actually deserving the job even getting a chance to run I'll not cast a vote any longer.

Some say then I can't complain when things turn out bad but things are already bad and all the drones that voted in these clowns that continuously **** us over aren't taking responsibility for that so I say screw it.
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And, of course, he ostracized those of us who love the 2A. Granted ... it's clear that there's only a teeny-tiny, small handful of us but it may have cost him reelection.
I'm less than thrilled with mutil billion dollar arms deals with folks that will use those weapons to kill Americans.
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And, of course, he ostracized those of us who love the 2A. Granted ... it's clear that there's only a teeny-tiny, small handful of us but it may have cost him reelection.
He will likely win on the better than ( insert Democrat ) bit again. Not to suggest he isn't a better choice but it's not really a choice.

It's come down to a paper or plastic, Coke or Pepsi thing for the leader of the so called free world position.

Popularity contest at best.
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So far it's Trump vs. spawn of satan.

easy choice.
The entire narrative is under the control of the Deep State. It's a huge "reality TV show" with Trump and his enemies as the stars of the show. The Deep State moves the Dems farther to the left than they've ever been before and casts them into the most evil and vile monsters we can imagine. Everyone shudders at the idea that these horrible gun-grabbers may reach high, political office. So, in desperation, everyone runs to the shelter of Trump's political wing. He, of course, is cast as our "last hope" and the Hero of the movie.

Then what does the Deep State do? They use Trump to usher in the gun control that everyone thought was the role of the "Dem Monsters." Then years from now ... everyone looks back and realizes they've been duped ... again.
Bingo! You know how the game is played. Bet a Democrat ends up finally building that wall with enough pressure. Or bet it will be a republican that finally brings us comprehensive immigration reform Why? Because as I said before with almost anything the govt wants to do that is heavily opposed. They will use someone the opposing party will trust.

Case in point lbj.
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I think the only reason Trump won last time was because he was running against Ms Clinton. Next time the Democrats might be more intelligent when they pick their new candidate

Trump is not very likable and he has a reputation for lying and for womanizing. That being said, he is a better president than Ms Clinton would have been. So, Independents tended to vote against Ms Clinton. That could change if the D run a better candidate. And, almost everybody is a better candidate than Ms Clinton
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