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Old 08-16-2019, 08:20 PM
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Keep in mind the Democrats were predicting we would be at war with North Korea and our economy would come to a grinding halt. Hillary said we were heading into economic-Armageddon.

Democrats are fond to tell us how horrible things are under Trump. Until economic numbers are mentioned and suddenly they go into an evolutionary thought process that would make Charlie Darwin pee his pants. Suddenly they claim it was them and Obama who are responsible for all the "Good" things we enjoy today.

-Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
-More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
-400,000 manufacturing jobs since election. (remember Obama said they were gone)
-Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
-Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2%.
-New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
-Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
-African-American unemployment the lowest rate ever recorded.
-Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
-Asian-American unemployment the lowest rate ever recorded.
-Womenís unemployment lowest rate in 65 years.
-Youth unemployment lowest rate in nearly half a century.

Standing up to North Korea rather than cash bribes. Standing up to allies and making them pay more for defense. (In 2016 they paid an increase of 286 Billion, 2017 it increased by 301 Billion and 312 Billion 2018.

Tax cuts, dropping thousands of bone-head regulations on business and Industry.

If the economy goes south because of these policies and more, all is lost and nothing will help us.
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:22 PM
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Yes I will vote for him again. He is getting conservative judges in the courts
Yeah...that alone!
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The economy is going to fluctuate up and down no matter who is in office. Under obamma lamma ding dong it was negative to flat line and didn't do anything else those entire miserable long eight years. President Trump has done some good for the economy. Some may argue that big business is making more money. I hope they are because they employ people as the business grows. Investors and stock holders also gain and that money goes back into the economy. President Trump has appointed a lot of conservative Federal judges which will be sure to help protect the Nation from this leftist cancer. He appears to try and secure the border and support law and order. Some may have issues with some of the things he has done but overall he's been really good for the country. So, yes even if the economy falls off I would still give him my vote. There is no way I would sit idly by and not do everything I could allowing one of those whack jobs that are running on the so called Democrat ticket as they sure aren't Democrats.
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Economy yes, gun control no.
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Versus what ever the dims put up? Trump, a STD infected dog catcher, a pet rock, anything but a democrat.
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What other options are there?

And please...I will not vote for a Libertarian.
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Presidents don't control economies...

They do control who gets nominated for the SCOTUS
They do control who gets nominated for the 9th Circuit

so YEP.
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Just wondering, I will. I think this latest glitch was a msm induced and spread, fear based test to see if "they" could influence the monetary system at will. Msm is still raking it over the coals days later.

The economy is the last and only thing thing left that the TRAITORS can use to get President Trump out of the White House. Nothing else has worked, nor will it.
That's kind of like asking, "If the proven, FDA-approved medicines with a 99% success rate dont work perfectly, will you instead seek a different doctor who has killed every patient he has ever treated?"
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I know its a novel idea but we plan to beat him at the ballot box. If HE tanks the economy he will make our job easier.
Is "we" and "our" the Communist or the Socialist party members ? No offence towards you, I know deep down your a good person and your only misguided.

For the record: I'm voting for Trump and I will volunteer to work on his campaign in my area.
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Most folks don't realize how little the prez has control of domestic policy, unless you read why in the Constitution. Sure, he has some control of the admin department, but Congress creates most of the laws that govern them and fully controls their budgets -including line item discretion. If Congress passes a few federal laws and cuts the budget they can effectively turn a department off or force it down a new path.

It's foreign policy where the sitting prez has the most unilateral power. On domestic policy he can only cajole and spend political capital to convince Congress do make a domestic bill that he likes. His biggest direct domestic power is the veto power. Now with external treaties he has real power. So Trump has used his treaty power to affect the economy by arm twisting other nations. He can't get the oil or steel business changed by creating domestic policy, but he can cajole OPEC and China on those two example industries. He can't force immigration law but he can twist Mexico's wallet.

According to his true action powers, not the bully pulpit, Trump is using his entire deck of cards. Good, bad, or indifferent, Trump is willing to use what he is allowed to use. Tariffs? Once the WTO started, every prez just mailed it in on tariff powers until him.

Notice too that in his foreign policy he has not wasted time like every other prez on the Palestinian problem. That has been a wasted rabbit hole for presidents for the past half century. But he has been keeping Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Israel playing very nice with each other. If Erdogan wasn't such a flaky tyrant I think Trump would have had him in the mix working together too. I think that once the biggest ME powers are playing nice then they will just settle the Palestinian problem without the PLO at the table.

For a guy who I believe didn't expect to get the job I do believe he woke up after the election and said to himself that this **** is serious now and grabbed it with both hands, instead of just turning it over to the technocrats. He shows up to work. He's not mailing it in or ignoring it.
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The reality is that absent Trump actively subverting America or committing real big crimes against America, or gutting the Constitution, he's still far better than any of the lunatics on the left.

If he guts the 2A or takes other rotten actions, I'll be really upset but still hold my nose and vote for him because, again, he's better than the loonies on the left.
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As long as the other option is a top echelon Democrat, Trump gets my vote.

Iím not against Democrats in theory.

Only in reality.

Until they quit trying to destroy America, Iíll vote for anyone that stands a chance of keeping them out of power.

Which means no third party folks. I despise the 2 party system, but at this point, thereís nothing short of a civil war that can change the stranglehold they have on the system, and voting 3rd party means people like Bill Clinton get into office.
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I know its a novel idea but we plan to beat him at the ballot box. If HE tanks the economy he will make our job easier.
You or We or Whoever you want to quote in your rhetoric won't work. In the end President Trump will be re-elected. He will be YOUR President another four more years. In these next years he will appoint more Federal judges and more than likely get in another Supreme Court nominee because your "we" were so smug in the absolute knowledge that hiLIARY would win thus securing the nominations. I would pay money to see ginsburg's face at the end of the elections when she not only realized she made a huge mistake by not letting obamma lamma ding dong try to appoint another puppet after she should have stepped down or the realization she only has a few years left on this planet and will be replaced by a conservative. That will not only unseat everything she has done but will effectively silence the other two puppets sotomayor and keagan for good. Oh what a beautiful world this will be!
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You or We or Whoever you want to quote in your rhetoric won't work. In the end President Trump will be re-elected. He will be YOUR President another four more years. In these next years he will appoint more Federal judges and more than likely get in another Supreme Court nominee because your "we" were so smug in the absolute knowledge that hiLIARY would win thus securing the nominations. I would pay money to see ginsburg's face at the end of the elections when she not only realized she made a huge mistake by not letting obamma lamma ding dong try to appoint another puppet after she should have stepped down or the realization she only has a few years left on this planet and will be replaced by a conservative. That will not only unseat everything she has done but will effectively silence the other two puppets sotomayor and keagan for good. Oh what a beautiful world this will be!
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Dang, a poll and a prediction in the same post. If it does tank, it won't be because of Trump's flip-flopping tariff threats, it'll be because some rich investors decided to pull some profits out of the Market while we tadpoles try to figure out what's happening.
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I know its a novel idea but we plan to beat him at the ballot box. If HE tanks the economy he will make our job easier.
Your ilk and ideology are disastrous economically. Big government is a cancer on free markets. Your current crop of buffoons is promising the moon.

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Yes I'll Vote for him again those that don't like him now, was all up in his ass every chance they could get because of his money and connections, now they talk about him like hes dirt But you just watch after he leaves office in 2024 those same people will be right back up in his ass again.
All the mans trying to do is better this country in His view, I've yet to see anyone else in the last 25 years do any better .
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I know its a novel idea but we plan to beat him at the ballot box. If HE tanks the economy he will make our job easier.
If your side nominates one of the crazy, shrill, socialists you will be making our job of reelecting Trump easier.

Your side needs to find a moderate Dem.
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