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Old 08-05-2019, 03:54 PM
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Black Gshock screams cop-military
So what? Does that mean a combined arms unit of Crips, Bloods, Aryan Brotherhood, Mexican Mafia, ANTIFA and the DNC is planning a hit on the wearer?

Like another poster said: if the baddies out there know how to ID an operator, they'll be tuned into a lot more than his watch.
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Black Gshock screams cop-military. I have a nice shiny titanium protrek. Tough as nails, looks good and it doesnt look "tactical".
I'm one of about 6 white people in an apartment block which houses at least 1000 people, in an area where white folks are scarce to begin with. People assume I'm a cop anyway. I had one guy across the hall tell me that about a week after I moved in. As Targe pointed out, I'm about as inconspicuous where I am now as a bear in a herd of ducks.

I do love my black and silver pro-trek, but I keep it at work and I need something for a bug out bag.
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Old 08-05-2019, 04:07 PM
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I do love my black and silver pro-trek, but I keep it at work and I need something for a bug out bag.

One thing about bugout bags is they often get stashed and forgotten. Meds and batteries go bad. An analog, non electric ("wind up") watch as suggested by someone else makes a lot of sense for a bugout bag for that reason. (Plus, analog watches can also be used for navigation).

For that matter, anybody have suggestions on a Self Winding / Automatic watch durable enough for a bugout scenario?
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I am enjoying my solar Casio titanium triple sensor off e-bay for like $170.
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One thing about bugout bags is they often get stashed and forgotten. Meds and batteries go bad. An analog, non electric ("wind up") watch as suggested by someone else makes a lot of sense for a bugout bag for that reason. (Plus, analog watches can also be used for navigation).
Mine sits beside my door facing a window. Plan is to get the solar g-shock which has a 10-15 year expected battery life and fasten it around the grab handle at the top facing the window to keep it charged.

I know a reasonable amount about mechanical watches. Most aren't that durable, and accuracy is an issue. Losing a few seconds a day isn't great and if you rotate through your mechanical watches on a daily basis like I do and don't own a watch winder, you could end up grabbing a dead one on your way out the door.

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Seiko SKX007
Even after years of neglect, hard use, and lack of service, I've yet to see one actually die.
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On the other hand, the wife is always pestering me for keeping my nice shiny Motorola Razr V3M which still works on Verizon for now.

She says it doesn't project the "high tech image" I am supposed to have in my business. I should have a smartphone, she says. ( they are all garbage for phones in my opinion).

Anyway we went out for dinner the other day and she was quite miffed that the 20 something hostess was all gaga over my phone and wanted to know what service it was on, etc.

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One thing about bugout bags is they often get stashed and forgotten. Meds and batteries go bad. An analog, non electric ("wind up") watch as suggested by someone else makes a lot of sense for a bugout bag for that reason. (Plus, analog watches can also be used for navigation).
Mine sits beside my door facing a window. Plan is to get the solar g-shock which has a 10-15 year expected battery life and fasten it around the grab handle at the top facing the window to keep it charged.

I know a reasonable amount about mechanical watches. Most aren't that durable, and accuracy is an issue. Losing a few seconds a day isn't great and if you rotate through your mechanical watches on a daily basis like I do and don't own a watch winder, you could end up grabbing a dead one on your way out the door.

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For that matter, anybody have suggestions on a Self Winding / Automatic watch durable enough for a bugout scenario?
Seiko SKX007
Even after years of neglect, hard use, and lack of service, I've yet to see one actually die.
Well, not sure how much accuracy on the actual time is needed in a SHTF scenario....but no good reason to lose accuracy.

Thanks for the suggestions on the other watches: I'm going to give those some serious thought! I think I've been lagging on the horological component in my bigger plan.
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Well, not sure how much accuracy on the actual time is needed in a SHTF scenario....but no good reason to lose accuracy.

Thanks for the suggestions on the other watches: I'm going to give those some serious thought! I think I've been lagging on the horological component in my bigger plan.
Accuracy and it being potentially dead. It's replacing the battery every 2 years on a regular digital watch, winding the watch as or after I've bugged out (if the oils haven't dried up), or just knowing it will work.

My theory with BOB's is I should be able to grab it, my shoes/jacket/outerwear, and my EDC gear and be okay. I only care about the watch because my EDC watches are more fashion than function when off duty.
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I don't think watches are a big give-away but 511 cargo pants or shirts, Logo wear and or tactical boots or even certain types of shoes and sunglasses are.... cooperating bad guys told me so. When I am in riskier countries, I like to wear a polo shirt with the logo of some south american soccer team with a soccer ball embroidered on it.
I picked up a Seiko Sportura with the Footbal Club Barcelona logo on it I can make you a deal on if you are interested.

But yes, I do not own any Oakley sunglasses, 511 anything, Bates boots, ect. because of a conversation I had with an inmate just before I retired.
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Accuracy and it being potentially dead. It's replacing the battery every 2 years on a regular digital watch, winding the watch as or after I've bugged out (if the oils haven't dried up), or just knowing it will work.

My theory with BOB's is I should be able to grab it, my shoes/jacket/outerwear, and my EDC gear and be okay. I only care about the watch because my EDC watches are more fashion than function when off duty.
Bidding on a couple of Seiko SKX007 on eBay.
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I picked up a Seiko Sportura with the Footbal Club Barcelona logo on it I can make you a deal on if you are interested.

But yes, I do not own any Oakley sunglasses, 511 anything, Bates boots, ect. because of a conversation I had with an inmate just before I retired.
JDH, watches are my weakness, my partner and me were accosted in Caracas 20 years ago because I was wearing a Rolex, they lost the element of surprise and it was touch n go... I now have a watch for every occasion/place...and I do my best to not stick out. Live and Learn is my middle name.
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I've been known to take the good watch off and shove it in my pants pocket. If I'm doing the mass transit thing or there's any possibility of going into a "less good" area, I have a cheap kid's waterproof analog watch. Fits me because of my size, not likely to be targeted, and really, really doesn't scream cop, military, etc. That way, I don't have to pull out my cheap phone to see what time it is, either
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One thing about bugout bags is they often get stashed and forgotten. Meds and batteries go bad. An analog, non electric ("wind up") watch as suggested by someone else makes a lot of sense for a bugout bag for that reason. (Plus, analog watches can also be used for navigation).

For that matter, anybody have suggestions on a Self Winding / Automatic watch durable enough for a bugout scenario?
I have a couple Seiko Monsters, Orange and Black. They are tough heavy beasts and wear them occasionally.
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I have been wearing the Timex Ironman for over a decade. I also keep a couple spares stashed. You can buy it at any Walmart and I have found them to be as tough as the G-Shock I had at one point. The battery seems to last forever.

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Was thinking the other day that my watch might be a giveaway as to my profession. I see a lot of videos of people discussing grayman concepts and then wearing a big ole g-shock to give themselves away. Mine's a square g-shock so maybe not as noticeable but I'm in a large city where people have somewhat abandoned watches in favor of smartwatches, checking the time on their cell phones, or fashion watches. I see a few g-shocks around but not so many.

It also doesn't help that where I live I'm one of the few pale faces and people may assume I'm LEO anyway.

What do you think? Would a square g-shock be as much of a giveaway? Or am I already screwed by my mix of ethnicity and location? Would it be hugely noticeable if I covered it up with a buff or something?
Obviously if they assumed you could actually read a watch, they might mentally promote you from cop to Fireman. Take it as a complement.
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Bidding on a couple of Seiko SKX007 on eBay.
Don't know how much you know about watches but look for ones with a damaged band or no band if you can. It's an easy replacement. If you don't care about it being pretty then get one which is scratched up a little with no internal damage.
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Bidding on a couple of Seiko SKX007 on eBay.
Don't know how much you know about watches but look for ones with a damaged band or no band if you can. It's an easy replacement. If you don't care about it being pretty then get one which is scratched up a little with no internal damage.
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If I want to go grayman, I often wear a Seiko 5 automatic.
Doesn't look expensive, but its reliable & self winding.



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I feel a little embarrassed that I, a retired federal cop, did not know what a G-Shock watch was. Had to look it up. I wear simple analog Timex or Casio watches from WalMart for EDC. I had a Rolex GMT and Submariner years ago in the Army. Sold them for far more than I paid at the Exchange and never looked back. Inexpensive analog for me.
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I feel a little embarrassed that I, a retired federal cop, did not know what a G-Shock watch was. Had to look it up. I wear simple analog Timex or Casio watches from WalMart for EDC. I had a Rolex GMT and Submariner years ago in the Army. Sold them for far more than I paid at the Exchange and never looked back. Inexpensive analog for me.
Man, that is unusal. Cops and military usually have their black Gshocks glued to their wrists. Two of the three parents in my kids school wearing black gshocks turned out to be cops. The other one is a paramedic.
I go for a bit more bling.

retired this Gshock after learning its a limited edition, these days going pretty high prices.
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