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OK, the title I gave this thread invites criticism, and I will most likely catch some flak here. Bring it on, punk.

Just joking with the punk thing. But before you are critical, please try it. It will cost you $3 for the can, that's it.


WHY MY DESIGN OF HOMEMADE STOVE IS BETTER THAN ALL THE OTHERS:

1) It can be opened to store things in when not being used (important for go-light hikers like myself).

2) It can be opened for filling (no need for that center hole).

3) It's only 7/8" thick, yet holds more fuel than any pop-can stove twice it's size (enough to keep water boiling for 45 minutes by using damper after acheiving boil). It will boil 2 cups of water in 8 minutes.

4) It's more efficient than any other alcohol stove (including Jetboil, which I own). Two tablespoons of fuel (1oz.) will keep water boiling for 30 minutes.

5) The heat output is completely adjustable, even while it's burning, by using damper to block holes.

6) With the container and a nail you can make one in under a minute - and IT WILL WORK without tinkering with it.


THE DOWN SIDE (yes, there is one):

The metal is not aluminum and so therefore more crush resistant, BUT requires a little more priming to get the alcohol vapors coming out the holes. I dump a half-teaspoon around it to heat it up.

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The dime is glued to a washer to cover the center using JB heat resistant glue (not neccessary to do).

The can is a $3 can from Wallyworld that had BB gun pellets in it. Simply peel the stickers off the can and punch eight small holes in the top with a nail (or drill them). Start with small holes and then enlarge, mine are about the size of a toothpick.

That's it, your done. Fill it up 3/4 of the way (about 3 tablespoons, or use less, of course) with methyl alcohol, screw the lid down tight, dump a little alcohol on and around it for priming, and light her up.

You can use a washer or something similar to block as many holes as you wish, thereby regulating the heat.

I've made many working stoves from pop cans and have not been happy with any of them for various reasons. I really like this little thing. It has cooked countless meals for me and it never let me down.

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If you are unhappy with your pop-can stove (or any stove, for that matter), give this a shot. I bet you'll agree with what I've said here.

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That looks great. Good job!!
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Looks great! I'm gonna make one this weekend using a .177 pellet ammo can.

What is the pot support? Did you make that as well?
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Looks great! I'm gonna make one this weekend using a .177 pellet ammo can.

What is the pot support? Did you make that as well?
No, I didn't make it. It's an Esbit pot stand available from just about any outdoor supply store. You could, of course, make a stand with mesh wire fencing or something like that, I just like my Esbit stand.

Side note: Esbit fuel cubes SUCK! They stink like rotten fish, go out in the slightest wind and only burn for 10 minutes, unregulated.
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i think im going t have to try this one i usually dont mess with to much homeade gear but i like this one
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Nice one, could you maby put a hole in the side and attatch a valve or something with a hose to a extra fuel tank, just to get more burningtime?

And what fuels can you use on this?
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Nice one, could you maby put a hole in the side and attatch a valve or something with a hose to a extra fuel tank, just to get more burningtime?

And what fuels can you use on this?
I would be happy to solve the problem of refueling while it's hot for you:

What I do is use this:

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It weighs nothing and I put the quarter in to show how small it is. It holds a little over an ounce (enough for a half-hour or so, depending). You put it over one of the holes and move your thumb from the other end to let the fuel run into the stove. Works real good. Don't use the plunger, it makes a mess real easy. It's a baby medicine applicator that I also bought at Wallyworld. Good old Wally has all the answers, don't they?

As for the fuel, that's really easy to come by. Methyl alcohol is gas line anti-freeze sold in just about any gas station or department store. Heet is one brand name I use.

I'm glad you guys like it like I do. This is one time when the K.I.S.S. principle realy works. People try too hard to make can stoves (I know I did).

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[EDIT: I said above that the needle holds 1oz., it doesn't, it holds a little under 1/2 of an ounce.]

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I would be happy to solve the problem of refueling while it's hot for you:

What I do is use this:

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It weighs nothing and I put the quarter in to show how small it is. It holds a little over an ounce (enough for a half-hour or so, depending). You put it over one of the holes and move your thumb from the other end to let the fuel run into the stove. Works real good. Don't use the plunger, it makes a mess real easy. It's a baby medicine applicator that I also bought at Wallyworld. Good old Wally has all the answers, don't they?

As for the fuel, that's really easy to come by. Methyl alcohol is gas line anti-freeze sold in just about any gas station or department store. Heet is one brand name I use.

I'm glad you guys like it like I do. This is one time when the K.I.S.S. principle realy works. People try too hard to make can stoves (I know I did).

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Thanks, that ansvers it but cant you use Ethanol or other cheaper stuff_
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I had four of these empty tins laying around, so I tried this tonight. It worked great!!!
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Looks...... actually......... not half bad Backwoods Goodwork
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Good stuff, well done. I have made hundreds of the traditional pepsi can stove and I think yours is just great. One question, how do you prime it?
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As to using a cheaper fuel than Methyl Alcohol (gas line anti-freeze):
It's only $1.20 for 12oz. at my Wallyworld (Heet brand). It don't get much cheaper than that.

As to priming:
Alcohol needs to be heated to start vaporizing, it's the vapors that burn. If you only put a tablespoon in the stove you can prime it with a lighter or something like that held under it. If you want to fill it, you will need to "cook" the whole can for a few seconds. I do this by dumping a half-teaspoon or so of alcohol on and around it so the whole thing goes up in flames. After 5-10 seconds only the holes will be jetting flame.

Alcohol lights with the slightest spark, also. I use it in the woods to sprinkle on my tinder and then light it with a Sweedish Steel and striker (a dual use for the alcohol you pack).

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As to using a cheaper fuel than Methyl Alcohol (gas line anti-freeze):
It's only $1.20 for 12oz. at my Wallyworld (Heet brand). It don't get much cheaper than that.
Ok, my bad..is it anti-freeze like that you fill into cars gasolinetank to remove condensation..._you know iam from Norway so my English is not so great...anyway, our best known name for Methyl Alcohol is Metanol (or Metylalkohol).

Have to check out what the price is on the lokal store is and thanks again for info!!!
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What do you carry your anit-freeze/fuel in? I could just see me dropping my bag and HEET getting all over the contents!
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What do you carry your anit-freeze/fuel in? I could just see me dropping my bag and HEET getting all over the contents!
As to Methyl Alcohol (again): just read the contents on the back of the bottle, it should simply say methyl alcohol, nothing else.

As to not spilling alcohol (or any toxic substance) in your pack:

I do it like this:

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The main bottle is a 16oz. bottle that had car cleaner in it, but you can use any plastic bottle. The cap was not completely air tight under pressure, and I too want to know that my stuff isn't getting all messed up with alcohol. So what you see on the top of the big bottle is the tip of a condom. They are made of very resilient, very thin, rubber. You can screw the cap on over it and everything is nice and secure against leeks.

The little bottle I take on day hikes without the big one, or with the big one on long trips. It's 4oz. (enough for 1.5 to 2 hours of cooking). I like the spray head because I spray a squirt on wood chips to spark them a-light with my Fire Steel for starting the camp fire.

The way it's going I'm going to end up taking pictures of all my gear before this thread is over! I don't mind.

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I was thinking you might be able to refuel while in use with a syringe and a slightly longer needle to put more fuel through one of the orifices, also an old metal brake fluid can with the screw lids can be use for a secure leak proof carrier for the fuel.
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alright so i tryed it and it works. I used like 20 year old denatured alcohol that was in my parents garage. I used a top of a Sterno can as a primer pan and it work very well.

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winters921, you made the holes HUGE. That will work but it wont be very efficient. If that's what you like, cool, but it's not the way I did it.

zenpilot, I posted a picture of the needle I use to refuel. It works very well.

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lol ok i tryed tho right i will make another one with very small holes. i am always worried this thing is going to explode in my face.


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k made another i will try it now

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