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Wanted to show you guys this new toy. My brother is a Saiga 12 dealer and was chosen to be one of the distributors for the 12 gauge MKA 1919 that are going to begin importation into the United States. They will be selling for around $800. Thats a lot cheaper than a converted S12. They come with 5 round magazines (due to importation laws) but will have hi-cap mags produced soon. They begin major importation into the U.S. beginning in July (estimated date from my brother). There are only going to be 3 official distributors in the U.S. so they will be difficult to get at first. If anyone has any experience with one feel free to chime in. I have yet to fire it but I will whenever I get the chance. He only has this demo in stock so far. I will post my opinions once I actually get to shoot it.






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Love how the carrying handle is backwards and the safety is off. I want to see some reviews.
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Looks like the carry handle is backwards in this photo.

Definitely looks like a cool gun, I'm interested in seeing some good reviews.
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Love how the carrying handle is backwards and the safety is off. I want to see some reviews.
Im not following you here.

If you look in the first picture the carrying handle is on properly. The third picture its how it was shipped. Dont ask me why they did it that way.

And you never store a rifle charged. You store it uncharged (which is why its not on safe because you can only put it on safe after you charge it).
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Yuck. The thing looks like an AR-15. The least they could do was give it it's own personality and ergonomics. I'm an AR owner, but I absolutely despise the way they look and feel. I think I'll stick with the Saiga.
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Im not following you here.

If you look in the first picture the carrying handle is on properly. The third picture its how it was shipped. Dont ask me why they did it that way.

And you never store a rifle charged. You store it uncharged (which is why its not on safe because you can only put it on safe after you charge it).
I think the concern with the carrying handle is that if they messed that up and didn't catch it in the QC process, what else did they miss?
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Are they 12-gauge or .410?
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Nice to see another option on the market. I hope it does well. I'd consider one if the reviews are good.
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They are offering two variants of this shotgun right now: the one pictured in this thread and also a short barrel version.

They can be obtained here (where the wild things are) quite cheap, like 650 US$, because they don't sell.

They are chambered in .410 and getting magazines is a real pain in the as*, basically causing the bad sale numbers.

If you get magazines at reasonable prices it is worth a look, because for the price quality looked OK (at first glance). However, I don't like .410...

Number one priority with mag-fed firearms: how much do the freakin' mags cost, because I at least want 5 in the beginning...
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.410?.... yuck.
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The Saiga 12 has a proven track record...this is a new firearm being offered and you are already saying it's going to crush S12 sales??? You have a lot of faith in something that is new to market.

Even if someone will offer larger capacity mags...the shotgun is made in Turkey I believe, so they still need to be 922R compliant.

I think I'll stick with my S12.
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Well I guess it's time to get rid of my Sega 20. I need a new toy like that. Nice very nice. Thanks for the info.
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I don't know if I like the M16-style 12 gauge!?!? Maybe w/o the carry handle I will like it more, but as of now i still say Saiga.
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I want a belt fed Saiga 12
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The Saiga 12 has a proven track record...this is a new firearm being offered and you are already saying it's going to crush S12 sales??? You have a lot of faith in something that is new to market.

Even if someone will offer larger capacity mags...the shotgun is made in Turkey I believe, so they still need to be 922R compliant.

I think I'll stick with my S12.
Calm down brother. I have a converted S12 myself! I wasnt trying to say it was a S12 killer or I wouldnt have added the question mark. It was simply a thread title to show people that there is more variety coming on the market. Who knows, it might be a S12 killer soon enough. Its a lot lighter than my converted S12.

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They are offering two variants of this shotgun right now: the one pictured in this thread and also a short barrel version.

They can be obtained here (where the wild things are) quite cheap, like 650 US$, because they don't sell.

They are chambered in .410 and getting magazines is a real pain in the as*, basically causing the bad sale numbers.

If you get magazines at reasonable prices it is worth a look, because for the price quality looked OK (at first glance). However, I don't like .410...

Number one priority with mag-fed firearms: how much do the freakin' mags cost, because I at least want 5 in the beginning...
The one pictured above is a 12 gauge. Not a .410. I do not believe the 12 gauge version is in the country but like I said its not my business; its my brothers. I simply posted it on here trying to help you guys out. Im not trying to promote sales for my brother or else I would have listed his company.

And once the 12 gauges begin to ship to dealers, magazines will begin to be produced. No company is going to produce magazines for a shotgun that isnt even being sold yet.

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I think the concern with the carrying handle is that if they messed that up and didn't catch it in the QC process, what else did they miss?
Did you read the original post? This was a demo sent by the importer RAAC. They probably were ****ing around with it themselves before they sent it off. Each distributor only got one and they arent for resale so it doesnt matter.
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Interesting concept, I wonder if its going to catch on.
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Tromix Lead Delivery Systems has a demo he has been liking.
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Quick review done by my brother.


A couple rounds through it at my brothers home.

More videos to follow. They are going out again to put a couple hundred rounds through it with some LEO friends to get their opinions. Ill throw up the video once I see it.
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.410?.... yuck.
Hey, hey, now. Let's not be too judgmental. .410 is a brilliant chambering for the 8-12 y/o shooter to start with, and is a perfectly rational lifelong choice for women and other people of slight build.

That said, I'm partial to 12 ga.
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http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?...l-shotgun-pic/

Heres what Tromix did to their demo.
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