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Temu, I have a question for you which you may respond in a 'yes or no' manner.

Would Yahweh burn a Koran?
YES. Need proof? I'll be glad to provide it...but if you study Scripture you should know it already.
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YES. Need proof? I'll be glad to provide it...but if you study Scripture you should know it already.

Wow prompt response.

Yes, please provide proof that Yahweh would burn a quran out of hatred.
Please then explain how this does not contradict the teachings of Luke 6:35, Colossians 3:12, and Proverbs 15:1.
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You need two sovereign countries to declare war.
Islam is not a country, nor is 'terrorism'.
Tell that to the Irish Republican Army, Neither the catholics or protestants are a soveriegn country yet they were killing each other for decades.

How about ask Al Quaida, who have openly declared war on the west. It's just a two sided war when the ones who are attacked first wake up and realize the enemy is serious. Unfortuantely, most of our American politicians haven't reached that point yet.

Do you think the Islamics wouldn't burn a bible? Oh, that's right , they just blow up Christian churches when they hold services in the mid east.
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Tell that to the Irish Republican Army, Neither the catholics or protestants are a soveriegn country yet they were killing each other for decades.

How about ask Al Quaida, who have openly declared war on the west. It's just a two sided war when the ones who are attacked first wake up and realize the enemy is serious. Unfortuantely, most of our American politicians haven't reached that point yet.

Do you think the Islamics wouldn't burn a bible? Oh, that's right , they just blow up Christian churches when they hold services in the mid east.

So we should obviously follow suit and return the favor?
Forget the Bible for a moment... how is this even a mature reaction to their violence?
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Wow prompt response.

Yes, please provide proof that Yahweh would burn a quran out of hatred.
Ahhh, you changed the wording a bit now din'cha? Still, no problemo.

From 2 Pe 3:10
andG1161 the elementsG4747 shall meltG3089 with fervent heat,G2741 the earthG1093 alsoG2532 andG2532 theG3588 worksG2041 that are thereinG1722 G846 shall be burned up.G26

Mat 13:41 TheG3588 SonG5207 of manG444 shall send forthG649 hisG846 angels,G32 andG2532 they shall gatherG4816 out ofG1537 hisG848 kingdomG932 all thingsG3956 that offend,G4625

You won't see any other "holy" books in the Kingdom, son.
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Please then explain how this does not contradict the teachings of Luke 6:35, Colossians 3:12, and Proverbs 15:1.
Sorry, but you are gonna have to do better than that. You referred Scriptures that have NOTHING to do with burning a satanically-inspired piece of trash book.

Would you also have qualms about burning a satanic bible?

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Ahhh, you changed the wording a bit now din'cha? Still, no problemo.
Well?
How is burning a koran not an act of hatred?



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andG1161 the elementsG4747 shall meltG3089 with fervent heat,G2741 the earthG1093 alsoG2532 andG2532 theG3588 worksG2041 that are thereinG1722 G846 shall be burned up.G26

Mat 13:41 TheG3588 SonG5207 of manG444 shall send forthG649 hisG846 angels,G32 andG2532 they shall gatherG4816 out ofG1537 hisG848 kingdomG932 all thingsG3956 that offend,G4625
Copy and Paste fail.
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You referred Scriptures that have NOTHING to do with burning a satanically-inspired piece of trash book.
The verses have to do basically with refraining from hatred and loving your enemies.

Burning the centerpiece of your enemy is not love.
It is hate.

Prove me wrong.
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Copy and Paste fail.
Yeah, didn't think ya' had anything for me.

Be off now son, back to the darkside where you usually spread your vile crap.

Or have you repented of that?

Sure hope so.
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The verses have to do basically with refraining from hatred and loving your enemies.

Burning the centerpiece of your enemy is not love.
It is hate.

Prove me wrong.
Answer me this. Is the satanic bible satanic? Yes or no?

Is the quran satanic? Yes or no?

Do these books teach antichrist material?

You would have done real well in nazi Germany...just be nice to the man in the ss uniform...all will be well.

GET A CLUE.
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Please seek physiological help.
Your kind of hatred is unhealthy for yourself and your peers.
Please seek testicular fortitude.
Your kind of passiveness is why criminals no longer fear good men.
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I think it goes deeper than that.

How can a "man of God" claim to be a true Christian while displaying such bold hatred towards a group of people who are allegedly "lost and violent"?

This really does fall back on the old "WWJD" saying.
Jesus will destroy them.....But they are His to do with what he wants.

He also died for them to.

But the clock has not ran down yet. He desires as many as can be saved.

To do that we preach the Gospel, some will accept, most wont...move on to the next group.

There is no way in hades any thing constructive can come of this.

All i hear are war pigs stoking the fires....while not outright calling for a war of extermination at the worst and at the least the suspension of the Law
deportation and round ups of CITIZENS....

War pigs in the name of Christ.........War pigs clamoring for blood.

Be honest..thats the end result ...Anyone think muslims in America
or Europe are gonna say We give and leave peacefully?

Some of you sound just like the Nazis in 1929...the Jews were the cancer
on the horizion then.

.But would Jesus do? Good question

Nowhere in scripture are we encouraged or instructed to take up arms for or against any of the kingdoms of this world

John 18:36
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.

Paul Rights as a Roman citizen were violated Acts 22:25-28
But he never suggested to fight. Paul was imprisoned on false charges...

Paul was killed....By our natural reasoning many would say that was bad.
God used it to advance His kingdom

If we do what is right we have no reason to be afraid of authority even when we suffer by it because we know that in our suffering Gods sovereign plan is being carried out.

John 15:20
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also

Our submission to human authority is not absolute.

''The whole counsel of God as well as evidence from church history demands that we resist human authority under two conditions''

1.) When any government compels Christians to commit sinful or immoral acts.
2.) When any government prohibits Christians from carrying out the instructions of our Lord such as proclaiming the gospel

At this time our government has forced neither of these conditions upon us.
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Of course im not talking self defense either.

Jesus never challenged any human kingdom or authority in the flesh

Though he could have destroyed his enemies single handedly he submitted to the will of his father

Mat 26:52
But Jesus said to him, "Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword. Or do you think that I cannot now pray to My Father, and He will provide Me with more than twelve legions of angels?"

Jesus before Pilate said

John 19:10-11
Then Pilate said to Him, "Are You not speaking to me? Do You not know that I have power to crucify You, and power to release You?" Jesus answered, "You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above.....

Jesus proclaimed the sovereignty of God and his own willingness to submit to that heavenly authority regardless of the personal cost.

Anyone who loves his life in this world more than Christ is not worthy of Him.

Mat 10:38-39
And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it

1John 2:15-17
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever

My thoughts are from a spiritural perspective knowing the age is drawing to a close and knowing where the Kingdom of God is right here and right now
I choose to enter into it now.

The war pigs have choose another path that does not lead to eternal life.
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Be honest..thats the end result ...Anyone think muslims in America
or Europe are gonna say We give and leave peacefully?
Well said! You made the point perfectly! You can bet they won't!
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Well said! You made the point perfectly! You can bet they won't!
The Jews did.....At the point of a gun....are you suggesting that?

But do you blame them?
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The Jews did.....At the point of a gun....are you suggesting that?

But do you blame them?
Your gonna have to explain that a little better...what are you saying?
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Your gonna have to explain that a little better...what are you saying?
The Jews went along peacefully ...allbeit at the point of a gun

Are you suggesting we do that to muslims?

And do you blame the muslim for fighting if something like that were to occure?
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i agree with the burning just for the fact that the quran is a heathen text. when moses come down from the mountain he didnt suggest they stop worshipping the calve. he burned the idols with fire an utterly destroyed them. the same with any other heathen purge in the bible. it wasnt dealt with in "oh thats gonna make people mad lets not do anything" mentality. it was dealt with directly an bluntly. with FIRE. the quran leads people astray.
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also the jews were without a country an dispersed all over the world. so the arguement that if we dont do this people will be in less danger is bull. they jews didnt do anything to the muslims for hundreds of years an they still hate their guts.
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Please seek testicular fortitude.
Your kind of passiveness is why criminals no longer fear good men.
Scripture says there are no good men
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Scripture says there are no good men
I don't mean good as in perfect, I mean good as in stand up men who value morals, ethics, justice and liberty. Come on.
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