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And by the way, the reason for moving and stacking the wood, this is what we have been working on, a place outdoors to cook. But also a place where snakes like to apparently hang out.

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Snakes are either venomous or non-venomous....

There's only 4 venomous snakes in all of North America...Learn what they are and let's hope grown men stop being so afraid of snakes.
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a bit off topic,

Being a little older and my sight isn't quite what it used to be, one early morning I bent down to grab my garden hose in some tall grass and came up with a really unhappy fat black snake,,,,still not sure who more startled.............
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This one is on the wood pile. I pulled the tarp off, and there it was. However, I don't think it is poisonous but not sure what kind. He/she doesn't seem to want to leave so I suspect there are eggs somewhere.

This is an eastern garter snake (Thamnopis sirtalis) and most likely a female. They bear live young and do not lay eggs. They will smear excrement on you if you catch them. After maybe ten minutes of handling, they calm down and make GREAT pets! This is actually two snakes coiled together. It looks like a Black rat snake, and a garter snake together Garter snakes have heavily keeled scales and the rat snake has slightly keeled scales, and are more patternless and darker. These are definately two different snakes together. As a matter of fact, the rat snake appears to be the exact same one in your other picture.... COOL!
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They finally decided to leave for now. There was no where else to hide...

This is a Black rat snake (Elaphe obsoleta) they get nearly eight feet long, and indeed, I have seen one that measured 102 inches long. They are powerful constrictors, non-venomous, but may very well bite. The aforementioned 102 inch one I caught bit me. It's teethmarks were 2.5 inches apart from side to side. It not only hurt, she left a couple of teeth in me that were as large as a mature, rose thorn and I bled like a stuck pig! I found her just outside of Moscow Ohio, in a field.

This is the rat snake that is coiled together in the woodpile with your cute little garter snake .
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Well, one thing I have learned in the last week, snakes really like wood piles. I was stacking wood this evening, thinking to myself: "There is no way there will be another snake in this wood pile again because the pile of wood had been moved." So I was on the look out for black widows (and had my gloves on) because they are every where around here. And there it was, scared the crap out me again.

Once again, this is your eastern garter snake. Nice photo... She's a real cutie! Looks like she's coming out to say HI! You should give her a name.
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This is an eastern garter snake (Thamnopis sirtalis) and most likely a female. They bear live young and do not lay eggs. They will smear excrement on you if you catch them. After maybe ten minutes of handling, they calm down and make GREAT pets! This is actually two snakes coiled together. It looks like a Black rat snake, and a garter snake together Garter snakes have heavily keeled scales and the rat snake has slightly keeled scales, and are more patternless and darker. These are definately two different snakes together. As a matter of fact, the rat snake appears to be the exact same one in your other picture.... COOL!
It that common for two different types of snakes to be hanging out together?
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It that common for two different types of snakes to be hanging out together?
Yes, perfectly normal, especially for rat snakes. I have seen them bunking with garter snakes, rattlesnakes, copperheads, etc.
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COBRA kill the damn thing.. mannnnnnn I hate snakes
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Looks like some kind of rat snake...Shaped wrong to be water moccasin
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I always look into their eyes.. If they have cat eyes= poison, if they have round pupils there ok. I could be wrong someday but, its worked so far.
That could kill you in Louisiana. The Eastern Coral snake (Micrurus) has round pupils, the venom is as potent as the Aussie brown snake (although, FAR less nasty in temperament), and currently, there is NO antivenin for their bite.
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No blunt tail nor diamond shaped (adder) head. Non poisonous snakes have long pointed tails and narrow heads.

Nor coral snake either.
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There's only 4 venomous snakes in all of North America.
incorrect, we have 6 species of venomous snakes in GA. Most are pit vipers with retractable fangs (copperhead, water moccasin (cottonmouth), timber rattler (cane brake), diamondback and pigmy rattler, we also have the coral snake, related to the cobra with fixed fangs. GA alone has 41 species of snake.

I can tell the snake in the pic is nonvenomous, but thats about it, its hard to even make out the length of the snake.
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