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Old 08-24-2019, 06:12 PM
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The parties are two sides of the same coin, i.e., they depend on Wall Street for funds, and Wall Street in turn needs more financial deregulation, consumer spending, and a military to control other countries. All four--the military, government, households, and businesses--want more borrowing, earning, and spending.
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If the dems lose will it sink in they are too extreme and sick minded? Or will they double down and figure they are not extreme enough for 2024?
The Dummies are already trying to out-WOKE each other. They will be apoplectic when they lose next year!
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I would predict whining, crying, and RIOTS!!
Initially yes!

The thing most people don't understand is that the American Democratic party is a soul-less institution. They have zero core values.

Remember Barack Obama deporting millions of Mexicans, calling for more security at the border? Today democrats say that is a racist mentality especially when they discovered they could potentially get millions of new votes.

Democrats enslaved blacks for 200 years, Democrats stared the KKK, Democrats wrote the Jim Crow laws, Democrats fought against the women's suffrage, Democrats fought against civil rights. Democrats built every single public housing ghetto in America. Democrats threw blacks fathers out of the black family, created dysfunctional public schools with a corrupt unionized staff to guarantee the failure of black children.

Keep them poor, keep them uneducated, keep them begging and most of all keep them voting (D).

If Democrats could win elections and take power, they would repeat every mistake they have ever made 10X
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If the dems lose will it sink in they are too extreme and sick minded? Or will they double down and figure they are not extreme enough for 2024?
Sink in?

Sink in to what?

Sink in to their heads/mines?

No. How could anything sink in there? If Trump wins in 20/20 their heads will freaking explode. They'll be crying like whiney... well... can't say it on here.

So no. It won't sink in. Some of their leadership already understands the radical portion of the party is sinking them. But they can't seem to reign it in and try for a moderate stance.
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Old 08-24-2019, 10:43 PM
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They will dump AOC and all the rest of the extreme lefty socialist along with open borders, free healthcare for illegals, free college and loan forgiveness.

They are not going to dump any extreme socialist agenda items or socialist candidates. They have even already identified AOC as "the future of the Democrat party." She's not looked upon as being any kind of liability at all no matter how stupid she seems or how far off her ideas become. She's seen as the future leader of their party. AOC is Nancy Pelosi's replacement. Wait and see.
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Will they learn? KInd of. They will put the mask back on until they get more illegals into the country and till more Boomers die off. Their far left communist wing will go underground and may leave, but they will weather the storm and get ready to lose for a few cycles.

they will not take off the mask again until there are enough illegals in the country to guarantee one party rule. the very next time they get the White House, it's "amnesty time". I hope the very first companies to get hit with the highest taxes are those that use the illegals as laborers
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They are not going to dump any extreme socialist agenda items or socialist candidates. They have even already identified AOC as "the future of the Democrat party." She's not looked upon as being any kind of liability at all no matter how stupid she seems or how far off her ideas become. She's seen as the future leader of their party. AOC is Nancy Pelosi's replacement. Wait and see.
True, AOC is looked at as the leader...for now.

If democrats lose the House, the White House and fail to capture the Senate they will move to the center almost over-night.

They will not double-down on a radical socialist path. Democrats will do anything, say anything for power.

The powers that be in the DNC don't really care about illegals, free health care, blacks, gay rights, transgender issues, education etc. Those are just wedge issues to get votes.

When they realize a radical socialist path is being rejected they will reinvent themselves and run candidates with a different direction.

If they win the White House and do well in Congress, I expect them to become even more radically left.
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I wonder what our gun laws will look like if Trump wins again.

They will be better then they would be with any of the dems.
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If the Dems loose, they’ll become even more violent.
If the Dems win, they’ll become even more violent.
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have you ever known an unreasonable person who chose to become reasonable?
have you ever known anyone who put effort into proving themselves wrong?
have you ever known a crazy person who was headed towards sanity?
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have you ever known an unreasonable person who chose to become reasonable? (Me)(Still working on it)

have you ever known anyone who put effort into proving themselves wrong? (Me)(Life proves me wrong almost daily)

have you ever known a crazy person who was headed towards sanity? (No)(But I'm a pretty sane person headed towards crazy)
I know, I know ... should have been a comedian.
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have you ever known an unreasonable person who chose to become reasonable?
have you ever known anyone who put effort into proving themselves wrong?
have you ever known a crazy person who was headed towards sanity?
crazy to sane? No.

But as to the others? Yes.

I'd once heard something about change that I'd thought interesting. It was something along the lines of "people really change for one of two reasons. Either they learn enough about something that they want to, or they've been hurt badly enough somehow that they have to."

IF the Dems get butt hurt in the election, they will change. At least a little. At least for awhile. So a Trump win won't just be good in general, maybe it will dial back at least some of the moderate-to-extreme folks, and ideally knock out of the box some of the crazies. We'll see soon enough.
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Old 08-25-2019, 09:14 PM
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They will be better then they would be with any of the dems.
True at least when trump bans assault weapons. You will be praising him for his ability to beat the liberals to it.

Lose in the election for president. Aoc is going run 2024 so they won't bother with much unless man obama wants to run.

Wont matter trump will tank the second amendment and the economy will still collapse either way
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You have to keep in mind that the ultimate goal of the Democrats is power. The Democrat party is broken down into two sections. The main section has all the minions in it. The main section has the people that Hillary Clinton refers to as being dumb voters. The second section has the party's elite like Hillary Clinton in it. If the Democrats win absolute and total control, it is the elite which will control everything.

If or when the Democrats grab power, you can expect another North Korea like state to happen here in the U.S. complete with food rationing, controlled living area spacing amounts and very frequent power outages. Your money won't be worth anything at all any more because the Democrats will help complete the movement of the international currency over to China to help the World Government become a real socialist agenda item.

So, yeah, you can expect the Democrats to change. The trouble is their change will depend on how much power that they can grab over the next few years to help further their socialist agenda.
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That's the goal of both parties, and the elite has probably been in control since 1913.
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The elite has been in control for around a century, and both parties work for it.
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You have to keep in mind that the ultimate goal of the Democrats is power.
Lol, as if the goal of the Republicans was somehow different.
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The Democrats' 'Ultimate Nightmare Scenario': Trump Loses By 5 Million Votes.... And Still Wins Re-Election



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If the Dems loose in 2020 they will double down.

Why wouldn't they? There is a line of thought floating around the internet, hopefully wrong, that Trump could be the last Republican president for some time.

The idea is that Trump may still win in 2020, but electoral dynamics could be shifting enough that by 2024 some traditionally red states could be solidly blue. This could happen due to Californians moving to states like Texas and New Englanders moving to places like the Carolinas. If that does happen, Trump could be the last Republican president for a generation.

Is this just being alarmist? Perhaps. But I'm not going to dismiss the idea just yet.
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