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Virtually every prepper website will tell you that looking too tactical or too colorful in a bug out situation will almost certainly attract unwanted attention. Wearing neutral colors that allow you to easily blend in with the crowds would be considered sensible attire in an urban bug out situation.

This includes accessories such as shoes, hats, sunglasses, gloves and your backpack. Even if you're wearing the right clothing colors, you could still stand out like a sore thumb if you're wearing tactical gloves, military-style boots and a camouflage backpack.

While I do believe that blending in is the right choice in most situations, I question whether there are certain scenarios where looking dangerous could actually increase your chances of survival. There are people out there who prey on the weak and fear the strong. If they're hungry and desperate they're more likely to target those who don't look like they can defend themselves.

For example, if you're walking through a gang neighborhood after a major catastrophic event has occurred, those people may target anyone and everyone who appears to have food or water. Looking dangerous and authoritative might actually create a sense of fear in some of those people, and even if they do decide to try and rob you they're likely to have less confidence if you look and sound like you know how to defend yourself.
Nope. They will target you first before the masses of regular folk walking through the wreckage of society.
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(I made an account because of this conversation. It is my favorite subject.)
It is my understanding, that being a grey man is best for times of peace, in that you don't draw the attention of your neighbors and surroundings to yourself or your preparedness. Dress simply, avoid camo, don't be loud, but especially don't be suspicious (ie any MCU character trying to go undercover (hat, hoodie, and sunglasses)). When SHTF, you must become a different kind of invisible that doesn't involve blending in with the crowd, so it's time to ditch the "square" appearance and become a hard target. Open carry that rifle and wear something that emboldens your appearance.
During my every day, I wear a pair of regular cargo pants with light grass stains, untucked from my boots (making them look kinda like shoes), a plain t-shirt (untucked), a simple black fitted hat, and occasionally a school backpack when I ride my bike (the only thing about me that draws attention, something I'm trying to fix). Based on my appearance, you would not likely guess that I'm noteworthy.
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For example, if you're walking through a gang neighborhood after a major catastrophic event has occurred, those people may target anyone and everyone who appears to have food or water. Looking dangerous and authoritative might actually create a sense of fear in some of those people, and even if they do decide to try and rob you they're likely to have less confidence if you look and sound like you know how to defend yourself.
Snip.

That will single you out from all the other sheepish groups. Once singled out, you will either be attacked or avoided.

Better to blend in and go unnoticed. If you need to instill fear into the types that would do you and other sheep harm, best to leave no trace but a trail of bodies.

Why look distinctive and hardened? It will just give you them better verbiage to put on the wanted posters.
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Virtually every prepper website will tell you that looking too tactical or too colorful in a bug out situation will almost certainly attract unwanted attention. Wearing neutral colors that allow you to easily blend in with the crowds would be considered sensible attire in an urban bug out situation.

This includes accessories such as shoes, hats, sunglasses, gloves and your backpack. Even if you're wearing the right clothing colors, you could still stand out like a sore thumb if you're wearing tactical gloves, military-style boots and a camouflage backpack.

While I do believe that blending in is the right choice in most situations, I question whether there are certain scenarios where looking dangerous could actually increase your chances of survival. There are people out there who prey on the weak and fear the strong. If they're hungry and desperate they're more likely to target those who don't look like they can defend themselves.

For example, if you're walking through a gang neighborhood after a major catastrophic event has occurred, those people may target anyone and everyone who appears to have food or water. Looking dangerous and authoritative might actually create a sense of fear in some of those people, and even if they do decide to try and rob you they're likely to have less confidence if you look and sound like you know how to defend yourself.
Nope. They will target you first before the masses of regular folk walking through the wreckage of society.
This is about right. Ive seen it at my job in public safety, namely during weather emergencies.

A guy who lives in a borough we serve was using his plow during the snow storm of 2016. He had his usual yellow work hoodie on and khaki workpants with black belt. He was running his plowtruck with the yellow lights on to plow his clients driveways. Apparently his truck was identical to a township truck and he was dressed accordingly. He was confronted by people on multiple occasions wanting to know why he wasnt plowing the street and only plowing certain driveways. Even after he explained the situation people were still angry he wasnt "helping out" with snow removal. People will tend to gravitate to those who "look" official and want help. If you cant or are unwilling to provide it I'm thinking the response wont be pleasant when SHTF. Lots of entitled people out there...

I usually dress in the big mens K-Mart clearance section or Salvation Army specials. The less people think of you by appearance the less they tend to expect from you by action...
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RE-GRAY MAN
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how to effect a keep away look....

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Grayman Rules:

Rule 1 - be "no man" (if you ain't on the street, you got little to worry about)

Rule 2 - when you go to the beach, wear swimwear.
when you go to the North Pole, wear a parka.
don't bring attention to yourself by deviating from this Rule

If you get confused, refer to Rule 1
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I usually dress in the big mens K-Mart clearance section or Salvation Army specials. The less people think of you by appearance the less they tend to expect from you by action...
Thank you for mentioning this, it makes me feel better in my choices. My husband works about 30 miles away and he has to go through a rough neighborhood. I worry that there might be a situation like 9/11 where he has to leave the city walking. I always thought that I would get him a used and worn out back pack for his get home bag and put old clothes in there so that he looked more like a bum. Not to sound racist, I am Hispanic and I am a mutt, but that sounds like his best chance at blending in since he is white.
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Well I served in the army and will acquire and use gear that is similar to what I used when I served, or something similar to what they may use today if improved, I have a buddy who keeps up on that stuff more than I care to.

I don't really care how others perceive me if I need to throw a kit on and dcus or multi cam or something similar.

My comfort and gear reliability > what you think of it

Application > looks



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I usually dress in the big mens K-Mart clearance section or Salvation Army specials. The less people think of you by appearance the less they tend to expect from you by action...
Thank you for mentioning this, it makes me feel better in my choices. My husband works about 30 miles away and he has to go through a rough neighborhood. I worry that there might be a situation like 9/11 where he has to leave the city walking. I always thought that I would get him a used and worn out back pack for his get home bag and put old clothes in there so that he looked more like a bum. Not to sound racist, I am Hispanic and I am a mutt, but that sounds like his best chance at blending in since he is white.
I still think a tradesman uniform splits the difference the best.

The super versatile blue overalls look that has a reason to be everywhere. And so generates that trust without looking like you have chosen a side.

And you are still running around in rugged gear that should provide some protection from the elements.
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Well I served in the army and will acquire and use gear that is similar to what I used when I served, or something similar to what they may use today if improved, I have a buddy who keeps up on that stuff more than I care to.

I don't really care how others perceive me of I need to throw a kit on and dcus or multi cam or something similar.

My comfort and gear reliability > what you think of it

Application > looks



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Meh, buddy took a picture of me the other day to send to my mother and I realized that the danner boots, fire hose pants, and that day green T shirt (bought in 6 packs of varrying dull colors from wallmart) are not significantly different from boots n utes.

But they don't scream 'military/cammo'
(But if I rub some mud on, or stain them with grass and leaves they will work close enough to just as well not to matter....)
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Meh, buddy took a picture of me the other day to send to my mother and I realized that the danner boots, fire hose pants, and that day green T shirt (bought in 6 packs of varrying dull colors from wallmart) are not significantly different from boots n utes.



But they don't scream 'military/cammo'

(But if I rub some mud on, or stain them with grass and leaves they will work close enough to just as well not to matter....)
Can't argue here, will take your word for it.



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WHERE I LIVE
you will see folks in varied bits of camo every day at the stores.
I wear my woodland camo BDUs every day unless it is a dress up situation, then I wear the OD green BDUS.(that is north woods semi formal)

In midsummer, wearing camo here gets ZERO attention or response.
IN a "situation" EVERYONE would be in it pretty much so
it really is what is "normal" for your world.

Wearing what I wear everyday going down Wall Street at noon might get some stares
Here in northern Mich nuth'n.
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