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Old 05-16-2020, 07:12 PM
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what ya all gonna do - i remember a while back everybody was gonna pull the trigger if some one came for ya guns - now TRUMP says everybody in this country`s gonna take the needle - it`s not the MARK OF THE BEAST but similar - heard it`s even got some thing in it that will track us 24/7 - just wanna hear what you`ll gonna do -
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not going to comply.
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First I have heard about it being ready in November. Best I have heard is next summer. Where did you hear November from and this tracker device?
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Not happening.
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I'll take it. And stick it right in their FN eye.

I'd say he's playing the dims.
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I'm willing to take the vaccine. But I'm sure as **** not going to go first. Maybe after the first 50 million people I'll consider getting in line.
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what ya all gonna do - i remember a while back everybody was gonna pull the trigger if some one came for ya guns - now TRUMP says everybody in this country`s gonna take the needle - it`s not the MARK OF THE BEAST but similar - heard it`s even got some thing in it that will track us 24/7 - just wanna hear what you`ll gonna do -
What I'm gonna do is ask you to post a source...

...and if you don't... consider this BS....
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Never heard him say everyone was gonna take the needle. If they do it will be full of diet coke because there isn't going to be a vaccine. And as for that tracker chip - redundant. You are already being tracked by your phone, car, computer and maybe even your household appliances.
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Trump's blowing smoke about how if he gets reelected in Nov. then there will be a miracle vaccine in Nov. or Jan. or whenever, that will be available immediately because of "the military," whatever that means. He did the same thing before the mid terms when he said that a big middle class tax cut was going through Congress. When he was asked how that was possible if Congress wasn't in session, he pointed at the horizon and said something like "it's going to happen, right?" The man really could sell ice to Eskimos.
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I won't be taking a vaccine for something that isn't a danger to myself. So, pass.
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I believe Trump said the vaccine would be entirely at your option.

And the expected, hoped for date was end of the year.

And yes, you are already tracked 9 ways from Sunday.

Your precise location, your movements, how far you walk each day, your spending, your thoughts, beliefs, speech, correspondence and in some cases, even your heart rate.
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what ya all gonna do - i remember a while back everybody was gonna pull the trigger if some one came for ya guns - now TRUMP says everybody in this country`s gonna take the needle - it`s not the MARK OF THE BEAST but similar - heard it`s even got some thing in it that will track us 24/7 - just wanna hear what you`ll gonna do -
No, the vaccine is 100% optional.

If you carry a mobile phone you give both the government and companies like Google the right to track you. Your phone tells them
-where you live
-where you work
-your routes to work
-how many days a week you work
-if you are married
-who you are married to
-who your friends are
-if you are an alcoholic
-which bars you hang out in
-if you are a drug user
-if you have kids
-if you are gay
-if you are a pedophile
-if you are cheating
-if you have a dog
-if you go to gym or jog
-where you go to gym and what routes you jog
-where you shop
-what consumer products you shop for
-if you go to gun stores and shooting ranges
-if you attend movies, theaters, sports events and/or concerts
-what religion you are
-where you go to worship
-where your doctors office is
-how often you go to the doctor/have bloodwork done
-where you service your car
-where you go on vacation
-how frequently you go on vacation
-if you consort with know antifa, BLM, new nazis and/or any convicted felons.
Etc. etc.

All this and a lot more you have been giving the government willingly for around two decades. Youíre waaay to late to worry about tracking. By now they can make more accurate predictions about your future behavior than what you can.

Personally Iíll go for the vaccine when I fall into the category of folks likely to die from corona AND it been proven to be relatively safe.
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How would this even work? The flu vaccine is a "best guess" each year based on what the strain of flu the "experts" anticipate. COVID, while not the flu, is a virus as well, and there are already active discussions of mutations. As such, perhaps they could inoculate you for this COVID, but what about the mutations that will ultimately follow? Seems like a game of whack-a-mole to me.
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Give me a BREAK. They haven't even been able to find a cure for the common cold, for how long? Unless of course they have one but keep it buried to produce revenue.
It's all a dimocrapper "must win the election at any cost", HOAX.
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The likelihood of a vaccination this year is very low. The fastest a vaccine has ever gone to wide use is 4 years. This one may be a bit faster, because of scientific advances since the Mumps vaccine, but not that fast.
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what ya all gonna do - i remember a while back everybody was gonna pull the trigger if some one came for ya guns - now TRUMP says everybody in this country`s gonna take the needle - it`s not the MARK OF THE BEAST but similar - heard it`s even got some thing in it that will track us 24/7 - just wanna hear what you`ll gonna do -
It's my body and I have "a right to choose" a vaccine or not in this country. I'll "just say NO" to forced vaccinations.
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Give me a BREAK. They haven't even been able to find a cure for the common cold, for how long? Unless of course they have one but keep it buried to produce revenue.
It's all a dimocrapper "must win the election at any cost", HOAX.
One of the earliest possible reports of "the flu" occurred in 410 B.C. -- 2430 years later ... there's still no curative vaccine for the common flu. And yet there are idiots in the world today that think the C19 virus will be cured by November of this year. Insanity prevails in America!!!

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One of the earliest reports of an influenza-like illness comes from Hippocrates, who described a highly contagious disease from northern Greece (ca. 410 B.C.).
https://www.history.com/topics/inventions/flu
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Give me a BREAK. They haven't even been able to find a cure for the common cold, for how long? Unless of course they have one but keep it buried to produce revenue.
It's all a dimocrapper "must win the election at any cost", HOAX.
There are around 200 cold viruses. You can be vaccinated for any of them and likely become immune. It is hard to vaccinate for 200 that are slowly mutating over time.
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The likelihood of a vaccination this year is very low. The fastest a vaccine has ever gone to wide use is 4 years. This one may be a bit faster, because of scientific advances since the Mumps vaccine, but not that fast.
Untrue, just like the flu vaccine can be quickly made each year, there is already a vaccine for SARS.

It generates antibodies to sars, generates immunity in primates, and is safe in humans. It has never been proven to protect against sars in humans because sars doesnt exist to test the vaccinated people.

Modifying the vaccine for this new sars-cov-2 is akin to making a new flu vaccine, not creating a vaccine from a totally new virus.

The vaccines already exist for sars-cov-2 they just need to be checked.
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One of the earliest possible reports of "the flu" occurred in 410 B.C. -- 2430 years later ... there's still no curative vaccine for the common flu. And yet there are idiots in the world today that think the C19 virus will be cured by November of this year. Insanity prevails in America!!!

https://www.history.com/topics/inventions/flu
no one is saying it would be cured. But if a vaccine can be produced in the next 6 months to generate herd immunity then the economy can easily open.

The reason why there is no "curative vaccine" for the flu, is that each year it is hard to predict which flu will cause an outbreak. They guess and make a vaccine against that strain. You are immune to that strain, but other strains might be the prevalent strains.

if you introduced seasonal flu to a completely naive population they would probably have a very high death rate. The reason why it isnt that deadly is because we have been exposed to version that are similar so our immune system can partially recognize it. A vaccine will attenuate the effect of covid-19 making it much less lethal overall. As it mutates people will have a partial immunity to the mutated form so the mutations will be more like a cold or the flu.
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