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Old 03-19-2020, 11:15 AM
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We need a nationwide program to immediately physically remove illegals and deport them directly to their home towns. During this time, where the airlines are suffering for passengers, let's employ our unused air transport capacity and deport millions of illegals.

Reason: We officially acknowledge 12 or so million illegals. Yet the numbers are quite obviously far higher. A million per year pour over the border. The reality is that there may be as many as 30 million residents who have illegally crossed our border. This number is high enough to completely overwhelm our medical system when they come down with Covid-19. Its a matter of life and death for American Citizens.

It would be no surprise what so ever to have hospital beds in some locations, completely filled with illegals! Leaving no room for American Citizens. The time is now, this cannot be tolerated and it cannot be allowed.
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Unfortunately we are doing just the opposite...

Notice how the Washington Post words its headline, aren't all people that are here illegally considered "criminals"


ICE to stop most immigration enforcement inside U.S., will focus on criminals during coronavirus outbreak

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...fab_story.html




ICE to halt some deportation efforts amid coronavirus

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ice...id-coronavirus
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ICE has been focusing on criminals (MS-13 etc) ever since Trump took office. The Washington Compost, the Communist News Network, and PMSNBC are keeping up their efforts to make Trump look like a racist.

Yes, it is illegal for people to enter the country illegally. Look up USC Title 8 code 1325. You may have to explain it to Democrats who spend too much time listening to the fake news media. Prepare to use baby talk to explain it.

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yea, sure.

Sounds like a FINE use of our limited force of police and National Guard during a PANDEMIC.

/sarcasm
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yea, sure.

Sounds like a FINE use of our limited force of police and National Guard during a PANDEMIC.

/sarcasm
How many dead Americans are acceptable due to the illegal alien problem? 10? 50? 40,000? Or more?

Our government's number one job is to protect American Citizens. Everything else falls short of that.
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How many dead Americans are acceptable due to the illegal alien problem? 10? 50? 40,000? Or more?

Our government's number one job is to protect American Citizens. Everything else falls short of that.
If it is a simple calculation of American lives saved, do you think the time, energy and money put into hunting down, processing and deporting 30 million illegal immigrants is the most economical way of saving as many American lives as possible?
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Maybe they will be frightened enough to self-deport. Assuming the spanish speaking media they all consume even mentions what's going on.

Also the sectors that hire the majority of them such as hospitality are shutting down. Grass greener on the other side of the border?
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yea, sure.

Sounds like a FINE use of our limited force of police and National Guard during a PANDEMIC.

/sarcasm
Yes would be a damn good use of the time of the popo to immediately clear out the deadwood. NOW.
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If it is a simple calculation of American lives saved, do you think the time, energy and money put into hunting down, processing and deporting 30 million illegal immigrants is the most economical way of saving as many American lives as possible?
Yes. CBP personnel would not otherwise be used operating ventilators.

Illegals "sector" should be made well aware that they will be screened out of any eligibility for ICU or Ventilator use or any fed financial benefit. Self deport and you can take your US ill gotten assets with you. And we will pay for your bus ticket. Expires Mar 30.
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I believe when times get strapped and you have 10 people sick, 4 of them over 60, 2 of them disabled, 3 illegals, and a 30 year old mother of 3.

One vent. Who is going to get it?

Come on, don't be stupid.

Hospitals make calls like this all the time they are just sneaky about it. After my husband's accident they had a meeting on should they pull his plug. Had they decided to do it, there's nothing I could have done.

He got better in the meantime.
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One vent. Who is going to get it?

Hospitals make calls like this all the time they are just sneaky about it.
That's not really so. If the illegals show up first, they will not be removed from said equipment or said beds when American Citizens show up in need.

I can't predict who will get the virus first, but Hispanic groups are very social, often uneducated, and live in tight quarters. It's a perfect breeding ground for this.
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We need a nationwide program to immediately physically remove illegals and deport them directly to their home towns.
I thought we already had a program,just was never enforced strictly.

I haven't seen anything from the left,anti wall,open border crowd this week.
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We need a nationwide program to immediately physically remove illegals and deport them directly to their home towns. During this time, where the airlines are suffering for passengers, let's employ our unused air transport capacity and deport millions of illegals.

Reason: We officially acknowledge 12 or so million illegals. Yet the numbers are quite obviously far higher. A million per year pour over the border. The reality is that there may be as many as 30 million residents who have illegally crossed our border. This number is high enough to completely overwhelm our medical system when they come down with Covid-19. Its a matter of life and death for American Citizens.

It would be no surprise what so ever to have hospital beds in some locations, completely filled with illegals! Leaving no room for American Citizens. The time is now, this cannot be tolerated and it cannot be allowed.
30 million? That's just mexicans. When I have worked in Mexico, it was open knowledge that about 30 million mexicans are in the US. Notice this includes legal and illegal numbers.

When I have had lunch or dinner with mexican colleagues and we talk about the world, families, etc... it seems that every single person I work with has relatives in the US and/or has worked in the US.
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Good stewardship of our tax dollars as any other endeavor. The reasons Cujet stated are some of the exact reasons we should have nipped it in the bud years ago, before resources are stretched to the point they are about to be.

Plus, every single one of them have proven our laws mean nothing to them, so what makes us think they will obey orders to make certain sacrifices to contain the virus? Pride in America and doing what it takes to ensure the sanctity of our nation? Nope. They flat out DGAF.

Lots of school buses are sitting idle as we speak, just saying. I'll volunteer to drive one and pay for the diesel.
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Good stewardship of our tax dollars as any other endeavor. The reasons Cujet stated are some of the exact reasons we should have nipped it in the bud years ago, before resources are stretched to the point they are about to be.

Plus, every single one of them have proven our laws mean nothing to them, so what makes us think they will obey orders to make certain sacrifices to contain the virus? Pride in America and doing what it takes to ensure the sanctity of our nation? Nope. They flat out DGAF.

Lots of school buses are sitting idle as we speak, just saying. I'll volunteer to drive one and pay for the diesel.
Thanks, but air travel is the only viable way to do this. Besides keeping the aircraft operational, the crews current and thousands of people employed, the illegals can't exit where they want, they must get out at the destination airport. Exactly where family and friends can pick them up. Or they can call Uber. For most, it makes breaking and entering into the USA too difficult to do again. It also makes them felons if they come back.

Furthermore, this is a burden taxpayers must now bear. The cost per Citizen won't be excessive.
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When they come to the hospital for a COVID-19 infection. Chain them to the bed.
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You do realize that they are still human beings right? We give even psychopathic murderers in prison access to life saving medicine if they require it, so why would we deny it to someone here illegally?
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That's a problem for another time.
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You do realize that they are still human beings right? We give even psychopathic murderers in prison access to life saving medicine if they require it, so why would we deny it to someone here illegally?
Because there are certain rights citizens have that non citizens don't? And the citizens paid into the system that provides this care?

Everyone in China are human beings, too. Let's just allow them all here, too? Would you be ok with watching your child die in favor of giving an illegal care that you paid for, but they didn't?
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Lily, I think Cujet is looking at his wife and imagining a day when she needs a vent and cannot get one because all the illegals are hooked up.

However, I disagree I think at the worst of it they will absolutely WILL be taking "less important" people off vents to make room for "more important".

Both my husband and I are DNR. Today I had a discussion with him and explained that meant "no ventilator" for me should I become ill.
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