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You might want to call or write your Congessman on this one. A bill is moving through congress that allows employers to require employees to submit themselves to genetic testing, all under the guise of wellness programs. What could possible go wrong here..?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-rep...100034946.html
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Wouldn't this be "employee genetic testing" rather than "employer genetic testing"?

I would be interested to see if my employer was really genetically damaged or if his idiocy was learned behavior.
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Well, just one more step towards total employer control huh?
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Wouldn't this be "employee genetic testing" rather than "employer genetic testing"?

I would be interested to see if my employer was really genetically damaged or if his idiocy was learned behavior.
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Well, just one more step towards total employer control huh?
What I was thinking was the genetic information retained by employers is the Fed's and law enforcement's best wet dream. They've already gone after DNA information on people from those ancestry outfits, so I understand..

Not to mention, the employer will know too much about you and given time it will affect people's medical premiums and who knows what else. That kind of stuff is inevitable..
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I'd like to see some of the seriously overweight, chain smoking, alcohol guzzling, insulin taking, uncontrolled high blood pressure-having employers would be subject to such laws.

I mean, if the insurance companies are driving all this, they're not going to want to shell out for someone's congestive heart failure or liver failure, are they?
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This is to bolster the DNA database so they can arrest you when you leave evidence at a crime scene. Like if you attend a rally they don't approve of.

Maybe instead of batons at a riot they can poke people with needles on the end of a stick and figure out who's involved.
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You might want to call or write your Congessman on this one. A bill is moving through congress that allows employers to require employees to submit themselves to genetic testing, all under the guise of wellness programs. What could possible go wrong here..?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-rep...100034946.html
Why would employers need Congress to 'allow' something?
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This is to bolster the DNA database so they can arrest you when you leave evidence at a crime scene. Like if you attend a rally they don't approve of.

Maybe instead of batons at a riot they can poke people with needles on the end of a stick and figure out who's involved.
Stick Man would be the ideal agent for them!
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Why would employers need Congress to 'allow' something?
Because there is another law on the books that prohibits involuntary DNA collection. This law will bypass the other one. It was mentioned near the end of the article I posted. I really don't see any good coming out of his at all. Beyond what I already said, I can see employers letting people go or not hiring people based on the DNA results. I can almost guarantee that these kind of things will occur given time. That is if the bill passes..
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Other than establishing a more complete DNA database the employer benefits by being able to shift more cost to there employees. Employers know that employees will resist this and when they do refuse to supply the voluntary sample the employee will then be hit with a extra premium cost, perhaps 30-40% above there normal healthcare co-pay.
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I would suspect every bill put forth by lawmakers concerning people, bodies, health, or health conditions in any way, shape, or form to be insurance lobbied. Insurance loves money coming in but love even more to deny coverage.
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How long till we all just leave the US ?

I mean South America is a ****ty dangerous place, but at least before I die I'd like to be able to **** in the woods and fire off my AK one more time.
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The joys of being self employed...

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I didn't read the article but I don't see the problem, from a Constitutional POV.

There is nothing "involuntary" about it from what I can see. If you don't want to submit to testing, don't take the job.

That doesn't mean that I think its a good thing, but if enough people refuse, the employer will have a smaller selection of labor to choose from.

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Some places start these "wellness" programs after they've hired you. You can opt out but you get hit in the paycheck in the guise of higher health insurance premiums.
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I didn't read the article but I don't see the problem, from a Constitutional POV.

There is nothing "involuntary" about it from what I can see. If you don't want to submit to testing, don't take the job.

That doesn't mean that I think its a good thing, but if enough people refuse, the employer will have a smaller selection of labor to choose from.

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The issue is employees, not job candidates seeking new employment
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I'm all for genetic testing.



Maybe the DMV will be forced to hire humans...
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I didn't read the article but I don't see the problem, from a Constitutional POV.

There is nothing "involuntary" about it from what I can see. If you don't want to submit to testing, don't take the job.

That doesn't mean that I think its a good thing, but if enough people refuse, the employer will have a smaller selection of labor to choose from.

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The unconstitutional part is that government now has a vested interest in heath care, and governmental policy drives many insurer and employer decisions. So it really is government DNA testing (and records retention) by proxy. And they can force your exclusion from the job and business markets, erecting barriers to entry either because of genes they can demonize ("He has a genetic predisposition to be an alcoholic, so we can't have him working at a defense contractor because he'll become a drunk, despite his lifelong distaste for booze") or because they can demonize your refusal ("He refused the genetic testing, therefore we don't know what dangerous predispositions he has, but Oppositional Defiance Disorder must be among them, so he can't work for a defense contractor.").

Imagine that ten years down the line they see a "need" to discredit you. All they have to do is go into their massive database of your phone calls, credit card expenditures, medical records, and even DNA, to make you out to be whatever the popular monster du jour is at the moment.
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I'm all for genetic testing.



Maybe the DMV will be forced to hire humans...
Just throw a hair weave on it and nobody will be the wiser.
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