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Donald Trump has been president for quite some time now, and not without
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There is less than a year before the next presidential election and I'm curious what he will do in that time.
Will there be a crazy plan to cling onto power, such as an invasion?
What are your views?
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An Invasion sounds about right. And when the Canadians submit..the world will know, Trump is the ultra maximum Leader, and we get all of the hockey sticks and Molson.
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Donald Trump has been president for quite some time now, and not without
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There is less than a year before the next presidential election and I'm curious what he will do in that time.
Will there be a crazy plan to cling onto power, such as an invasion?
What are your views?
In my experience, people vote their pocket book.

Our economy is growing strongly, unemployment is at all time lows, we lead the world in oil production, and we are hopefully getting favorable trade agreements. All of this support the incumbant.

Trump will be re elected with a wide popular vote majority, and an overwhelming electorial vote landslide.
I also expect that Republicans will retake the US House, and expand their Senate majority.
When Ruth Ginsburg sadly passes, her replacement will also mark the loss of the last Democratic power base.

I dont know how will Trump respond to his re election, but I will not ask him to stop winning.
I rather like having a President how loves America and tells the globalist to Kiss his Ass.
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Donald Trump has been president for quite some time now, and not without
incident.
There is less than a year before the next presidential election and I'm curious what he will do in that time.
Will there be a crazy plan to cling onto power, such as an invasion?
What are your views?
More likely the House and Senate will both pass a law requiring him to wear a rainbow pride insignia for the remainder of his days in office, and Trump will have to decide whether to veto it or not.

Very interesting that we've got Ruth Bader Ginsburg's ill health, a lot of North Korean defiance, and a real show-down between China and Hong Kong all happening now, though.

Just hoping and praying for the safety and well-being of Americans and western civilization.
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The next year?
Trump will work on his re-election. Then be re-elected.

After, RBG will finally decide to retire (if she's still around...) and the Dims will lose whatever shred of lucidity they have clung to. Having no self awareness they will beat the socialism drum harder, further alienating any American who's not bat-**** crazy and suffering from TDS.

Of course, the R's will retake the House, expand their Senate margin (though I doubt it'll be beyond the Veto-proof level), the economy will kick into overdrive, creating a second financial boon that further lifts middle class and minority incomes, creating a solid R voting block amongst blacks and Hispanics... destroying the Dims hopes for national success once and for all.

Other than that? He's just going to laugh at Dims and sleep with a super model.
You know, normal stuff.
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In my experience, people vote their pocket book.

Our economy is growing strongly, unemployment is at all time lows, we lead the world in oil production, and we are hopefully getting favorable trade agreements. All of this support the incumbant.

Trump will be re elected with a wide popular vote majority, and an overwhelming electorial vote landslide.
I also expect that Republicans will retake the US House, and expand their Senate majority.
When Ruth Ginsburg sadly passes, her replacement will also mark the loss of the last Democratic power base.

I dont know how will Trump respond to his re election, but I will not ask him to stop winning.
I rather like having a President how loves America and tells the globalist to Kiss his Ass.

I agree with everything you said here aside from the GOP regaining the house.

The rest seems spot on and is in all probability the most likely to happen.
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In my experience, people vote their pocket book.

Our economy is growing strongly, unemployment is at all time lows, we lead the world in oil production, and we are hopefully getting favorable trade agreements. All of this support the incumbant.

Trump will be re elected with a wide popular vote majority, and an overwhelming electorial vote landslide.
I also expect that Republicans will retake the US House, and expand their Senate majority.
When Ruth Ginsburg sadly passes, her replacement will also mark the loss of the last Democratic power base.

I dont know how will Trump respond to his re election, but I will not ask him to stop winning.
I rather like having a President how loves America and tells the globalist to Kiss his Ass.
Agreed and I'll add the following:
I rate Presidents since 1980 as follows:
Reagan: A- (points lost for gun control, bad SCOTUS pick in OConner). Major victories in picking Scalia and Kennedy to the SCOTUS, economic recovery over Carters' failures, and defeated Russia in the Cold War.
Bush Sr: A- (points lost for some broken promises, and gun control, and Souter SCOTUS pick). Major victories in SCOTUS pick in Thomas, Gulf War victory.
Clinton: F
Bush: B+. Dealt the hardest hands of any POTUS with 9/11/01, crashed economy, and a two front war. Handled it remarkably well. Alito was a great pick, Roberts has been a decent SCOTUS pick with some good and some disappointing decisions.
Obama: F
Trump: A. (points deducted for bump stocks and hints of gun control). Straight shooter generally, direct communication with the people, repaired a lot of damage from Obama's admin, huge economic gains, generally peace in the world for America, no new wars, winding down war(s), no major scandals, 2 presumably great SCOTUS picks. Not much to complain about. Been hamstrung by the Dems since election night.

To any honest observer, I can state the following:

* Trump beat Hillary with impressive EC numbers, and while he "lost" the popular vote, there's lots of fraud baked into that Dem number so it's a debatable point. For instance, all those illegals voting in California are a meaningless figure as CA only has X number of ECs to give.

* The main reason folks were holdouts against Trump was a concern for his performance. He's proven himself to be a pretty excellent President with only minor things to reasonably complain about. He blocked Hillary and the Dems, and he's delivered on some important promises like 2 good SCOTUS picks, fixing the economy, jobs, foreign relations, etc. The concerns he'd start WWIII or bankrupt us were proven wrong. For most fence sitters, those fears are gone. Trump will pick up a lot of fence-sitters, say 5%-10% popular vote which is a few million.

* The biggest legit complaint on Trump is his brash behavior and Tweets. That was all well known going into 2016, so it's baked into the cake. Few will abandon him for it. Most, like me, don't really care but instead care about performance.

* History is on his side. In modern times (increased technology and communication advances, sophisticated voters, etc.), since say 1980, the incumbents have won 4 our of 5 re-elections. Bush Senior's loss was a fluke and entirely the fault of the spoiler Perot who sapped off huge numbers of votes. Bush, ironically, has the highest lifetime approval rating of any President since 1980, at something like 65% per Gallop. But for Perot, Bush would have won re-election. Setting that anomaly loss aside, that's 100% re-election rate.

* Dems and the leftist media have been driven insane and off the deep end with being crazy and more crazy, and wildly dumb policies and proposals. Viewership of the media has fallen off a cliff. Nobody is tuning in anymore. Only 5 million people watched the latest debate. They have no vision, no good policies, propose failed policies, no credibility due to endless lies and coverups, etc.
They have been shown time and again to be blindly driven by rage in their hypocrisy, dishonest coverups, and dealings going back into the Obama and Clinton eras. We all know all those sorted details of selective non-prosecution, Clinton's escape from culpability, Clintons dealings with Russia, law breaking of numerous Obama era persons, Bidens dirty secrets, and so forth. I cannot fathom a person with a brain voting for a Democrat unless they just hate America and want it to fail.

* Looking back, Obama got something like 70 million and 65 million EC votes in 2008 and 2012 respectively. Generally total numbers grow but in 2016 Trump got 2 million more than Romney, but Hillary got 100k less than Obama. Not a good trend.
Trump is MORE popular today, and will almost certainly get more votes. He got 63 million votes. Figure you need a solid 65-70 million to beat him, and not just in California and NY and IL... elsewhere you need to flip a dozen states. I don't see Michigan, Florida, Ohio, or PA flipping given the economic success of Trump.

Nobody on that Dem stage has the Obama magic to get 65-70 million broadly spread out votes. Warren? Not a chance. She's less popular than Clinton. Biden? He's a gaff machine with a LOT of baggage and Obama isn't even endorsing him. Sanders? He lost to Clinton. How is he going to beat Trump? His ideas are too fringe. The rest are an assortment of lunatics and goofballs with no financial backing or name recognition. People have tuned out for lack of interest and fatigue of being lied to. Donations have dropped off.

Trump is going to steamroll whoever the Dims put up, absent a major event.
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Trump in a squeaker because of record low voter turnout. More gridlock because the Reps won't take back the House. Dangling loan forgiveness, free college, and expanded Medicare sound good if the Dem candidate can get out the vote. Most voters don't care about the Supreme Court because the Court doesn't care about them. "Build that wall," and "lock her up" have fizzled out, so Trump will have to ramp up his WWE heal act. Biden, Warren and Bernie have the charisma of a wet mop. The undecided 10% will vote for the least worst candidate.
There's a reason so many Reps are retiring.
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I believe President Trump will be re-elected. The Dems have pretty much shot their wad with no appreciable negative results for Trump, and quite possibly the opposite.

So... what will a lame duck President Trump do? I suspect Trump himself has no idea as of yet. It is a bit concerning, but only slightly. In no way will it be worse than the stunts Obama pulled on his way out. Unlike Obama, Trump is pro-America.
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Donald Trump has been president for quite some time now, and not without
incident.
There is less than a year before the next presidential election and I'm curious what he will do in that time.
Will there be a crazy plan to cling onto power, such as an invasion?
What are your views?
Only 3 years and every President has incidents.

In this election year coming I expect he will run for re-election. I also expect he will continue to press for fair trade from our trading partners, enforcement of immigration laws and maybe appoint a SC pick to replace another SC Justice. With some luck the durn foreigners will handle their own affairs and we won't get drawn into conflict.

In terms of left wing conspiracy nonsense my hope is Trump declares himself "Defender of the Realm", suspends due process and has every liberal shot for stupidity. Your family and neighbors will be encouraged to turn you in for uttering any liberal dogma with a reward system of getting a new smart phone or big screen TV. Soon US liberals will cease to exist except those that have fled to Canada. Where they spend their time in plots to invade/free the US while they are high on legal marijuana.

My views? Liberals are bad.
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Trump will win big in 2020 and then we might be able to get another Trump to run in 2024. I had rather have the Trump family full time than have one democrat 4 years. Because I believe he would do what's right for our country, America.
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The next year?
Trump will work on his re-election. Then be re-elected.

After, RBG will finally decide to retire (if she's still around...) and the Dims will lose whatever shred of lucidity they have clung to. Having no self awareness they will beat the socialism drum harder, further alienating any American who's not bat-**** crazy and suffering from TDS.

Of course, the R's will retake the House, expand their Senate margin (though I doubt it'll be beyond the Veto-proof level), the economy will kick into overdrive, creating a second financial boon that further lifts middle class and minority incomes, creating a solid R voting block amongst blacks and Hispanics... destroying the Dims hopes for national success once and for all.

Other than that? He's just going to laugh at Dims and sleep with a super model.
You know, normal stuff.
I actually think almost all of this sounds pretty good.

Far-right people want us to fear Democratic electoral wins, and Democrats want us to think they're on the way.

The facts of life, though, are that the people who left-wingers want to vote don't vote, and the people who keep right-wingers in power do vote. Demographically, a conservative elderly person is a likely voter, not an 18 year old, crazed liberal yahoo or a typical black, urban working class or poor person. They're more like people who maybe would preach that people have to vote, but then who suffer a little too much from inertia to be able to do it themselves. The left-wingers have to keep fooling with the election laws to try to get their people elected.

And that's why there could still be a lot of R control even though it seems like the country is demographically going the other way. Republican victories are not going to keep happening forever... but it sounds plausible enough that I very much could believe we'll have a 2nd Trump term and an R house and senate.

As for "creating a solid R voting block amongst blacks and Hispanics... destroying the Dims hopes for national success once and for all," that's not going to happen. The minorities connection to D politics is too strong of a trend.

I think the next 4 years are going to be a final burst of political control for Rs on the national scene, and they're going to anger a lot of people who have the opposite politics, who are the future.
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Trump will win big in 2020 and then we might be able to get another Trump to run in 2024. I had rather have the Trump family full time than have one democrat 4 years. Because I believe he would do what's right for our country, America.
Nicki Haley 2024. The woman is brilliant. She has tread carefully and successfully through the minefield that is Trump's Washington, DC. Absolutely handed it to them at the UN, bold, fearless but always in control.

BONUS: I won't be able to stop smiling for the rest of my life if the Republican's are first to the finish line putting a woman in the White House. The only way to make it even better will be if they can find a minority candidate as VP. The Dems would have no talking points left.
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As for "creating a solid R voting block amongst blacks and Hispanics... destroying the Dims hopes for national success once and for all," that's not going to happen. The minorities connection to D politics is too strong of a trend.
Jim, it's possible. As the economy expands, some (many?) Blacks and Hispanics join the ranks of people 'with something to lose'. What used to be the middle class. Now, they're not that affluent, but they are standing on their own two feet. I believe those are the people going over to Trump (but actually, simply going conservative). It is a slow but steady trend we are seeing right now and we can hope it will continue.
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Trump in a squeaker because of record low voter turnout. .
I have proven to be really bad at predicting these things but I just don't see the low turnout. Sure, a lot of people are disgusted with the whole thing, but the Trump people are energized by a handful of elites trying to override their votes. The far left is energized by their view that Trump gets away with whatever he wants. I think the polarized, increased hostility, motivates people on both sides.

Just speaking for 1 voter here, I grudgingly voted for Trump. Don't really like the guy. But the Democrats have made me so mad I'm about to paint MAGA on the side of my car and go register in about 8 different states.
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Donald Trump has been president for quite some time now, and not without
incident.
There is less than a year before the next presidential election and I'm curious what he will do in that time.
Will there be a crazy plan to cling onto power, such as an invasion?
What are your views?
If we look at what the Cartels are doing to this country,
we look at what our President has said about them,
I would not be at all surprised if he decides to go
after them, where ever they are. Or where ever they
go.

Is it the right thing to do? Yes.
Will it make Mexico, and Liberals heads explode?
YES

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WASHINGTON/MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico on Wednesday rejected “interventionism” after U.S. President Donald Trump said he will designate the Latin American nation’s cartels as terrorist organizations, while a former U.S. official warned of unintended outcomes from such a move.

Designating groups as foreign terrorist organizations is aimed at disrupting their finances through the imposition of U.S. sanctions, including asset freezes and travel bans, on them and individuals and entities that support them.
Trump said in comments broadcast on Tuesday that Mexico’s cartels “will” be designated.
A growing chorus of conservative voices in the United States has called for Mexican cartels to be classified as terrorist groups after the killing in Mexico earlier this month of nine American mothers and children with dual Mexican nationality.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1Y11U2


Ebrard earlier said a terrorist designation could, under U.S. law, enable the United States to act directly against the threat if it chose.
Trump has repeatedly offered military assistance, but Mexico has consistently declined such an offer. It was not clear under what legal basis, if any, the United States could intervene unilaterally.
Ebrard also suggested that such a move would be countered by Mexico with an equivalent legal response.
Mexico has already opened the door to such a response, by earlier in the year classifying a mass-shooting in El Paso in which Mexican citizens died as terrorism against Mexicans.
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Don Senior 2016-2024
Don Junior 2024-2028
Ivanka 2028-2036
Eric 2036-2044
Barron 2044-2052
(yes, I know I skipped Tiff, She could slide in front of Barron but at this point too much baggage.)

That ought to make some liberal heads explode.
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If we look at what the Cartels are doing to this country,
we look at what our President has said about them,
I would not be at all surprised if he decides to go
after them, where ever they are. Or where ever they
go.

Is it the right thing to do? Yes.
Will it make Mexico, and Liberals heads explode?
YES
Especially since the largest, most destructive cartel in the USA is the DNC.
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I think he will declare martial law and begin rounding up Democrats and illegals. Then he'll have LIVE televised executions. He'll use bleacher type electric chairs for maximum efficiency.

After the only two groups who could oppose him are eliminated he'll then bow on one need and invite his master Putin to take over America and rule.

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Has anyone seen the slick hi-production BLOOMBERG ads??? Something to think about. This may be the last-minute dark horse Dem-Soc candidate that people have been wondering about.

He has the bucks like Trump. He COULD buy the "(s)election".
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