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Whilst obviously it is to be taken with a pinch of salt something like this could deeply effect us all individually and as societies.

Will having more than one child become an even harder choice to make?

Will we see many food types growing more than double in price as it becomes less available?

Or perhaps improved farming techniques and science break through s with GM crops will be able to prevent much of this.

Either way its something to consider.
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2030? bbc must be smoking homegrown tobacco. may by end of year is more like it.
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2030??? Wtf?
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Won't affect the US all that much but the 2nd and 3rd world will be hurting very badly indeed.
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Wonder what planet they're on. I'm expecting this within the year.
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Wonder what planet they're on. I'm expecting this within the year.
Well in fairness Oxfam is likely to be in a better position than most of us to decide when prices are going to jump.

I believe this will affect the northern hemisphere quite significantly as we depend on 3rd world farming to produce a large amount of our food stuffs.

The UK for example imports over 95% of its fruits and vegetables.
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Of course it will be double just like it always has through history.
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Won't affect the US all that much but the 2nd and 3rd world will be hurting very badly indeed.
Guess you are gonna eat a lot of soy beans and cattle corn?
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I wouldnt doubt it. Food prices are outragious!!!!
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Won't affect the US all that much but the 2nd and 3rd world will be hurting very badly indeed.
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Do you really think so?? I just cleaned out my freezer last week and found an old beef roast from last year that had gotten pushed way to the back and overlooked. I compared the price on this old label with what I saw at the meat counter at the grocery on my last trip to the store. It had doubled. And this is just in ONE year's time.

For other grocery store products, figure out the REAL price taking into consideration the constantly shrinking packages and the price increases. We're already doubled on a lot of things, and there is no end in sight.
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I saw that in the news and it really caught my eye. I would think (hope) that home gardens will continue to grow in numbers for those who have a patch of sunny ground. It really saddens me to think that our country successfully used victory gardens within the lifespan of people who are still alive and kicking, yet it's just all but disappeared from the collective consciousness of so many families.

I live in a small agriculturally dependent town and I'm pretty sure we have more than average home gardeners, if only because it's a very common topic with other parents at my daughters' school. So I can't really track whether the rate increases or not but each year Walmart and Home Depot seem to add variety and volume of fruit trees and vegetable seedlings. I pray more people decide to focus on things like gardening and learning skills as a hobby instead of shopping and spending.

If the decline happened slowly enough, it could be a blessing if we regained our self-sufficiency as a nation, but there would be a lot of casualties along the way. I don't hope for decline but I really wish people would get scared enough to prep for it.
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Wow only double, thats it!
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Do you really think so?? I just cleaned out my freezer last week and found an old beef roast from last year that had gotten pushed way to the back and overlooked. I compared the price on this old label with what I saw at the meat counter at the grocery on my last trip to the store. It had doubled. And this is just in ONE year's time.

For other grocery store products, figure out the REAL price taking into consideration the constantly shrinking packages and the price increases. We're already doubled on a lot of things, and there is no end in sight.
Live cattle prices last May/June was about $95/cwt.
Current Live cattle price is $104/cwt.
That's not double.

The price of beef really hasn't changed in the last forty years.
The price of setting beef in a display case has risen exponentally in that time.


The price of food has not doubled.

The price of things you buy in the grocery store has doubled.
The grocery industry is cashing in on some unfounded hype.
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The price of food has not doubled.

The price of things you buy in the grocery store has doubled.
The grocery industry is cashing in on some unfounded hype.
I disagree... I think it's all the people in between who have increased expenses. It's costing so much more just to transport the food to processing, then to market. And then there's storage. Energy costs are a killer.

The grocery industry has a very slim profit margin at the best of times.
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-Generally these projections are lineal and don't account for weather variance, war, drought, disease and such particularly energy needs and cost.


-The increase of 120% and 180% is disconnected from currency meaning that the increase for most if not all will be grater due to currency deflation


-The most important issue NOT being discussed with food/food security/quality of life is unsustainable population growth. IF we are able to offset for shortages in the near future We are only setting ourselves up for larger shortage years after that. The only solution is reduce human population numbers.


-To enact much of the "food justice" and end the "equality gap" taxes, regulations, laws, and ultimately socialism.
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I disagree... I think it's all the people in between who have increased expenses. It's costing so much more just to transport the food to processing, then to market. And then there's storage. Energy costs are a killer.

The grocery industry has a very slim profit margin at the best of times.
I am calling 'all the people in between' the grocery industry.

I agree, there is a tight margin for the outlet store I'm sure.
But Krogers, HyVee, Costco, Publix are making a killing as well as the processors who package food.

My point is that the food portion of what you buy has not really increased in cost
... it's everything else associated with selling packaged/processed items.
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Isn't the price of everything doubling every 20 years the norm? Am I missing something here? Seems normal to me. What's the big ruckus?
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It's always time to have a home garden. Now is the time to beef it up. We have doubled ours but had a really rough time getting it in due to almost non-stop rain for a month and a half. Many of the farmers in our area have not even be able to disc their fields yet. We just finished planting this past weekend. We had to use a lot more sets than we wanted to because our peat pots did not fare as well as we had hoped. It was a really hard 'spring' this year.
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By 2030?!? Well duh. Hell with just a 4% increase per year it will double before 2030.

Not sure about the rest of you but I'm seeing more like 4% per month right now. It's shocking. I haven't been to the store in awhile, wife usually does the grocery shopping, but I went a few days ago and noticed milk was up to $3.53/gallon. Just a few months ago it was $2.97. Even the super cheap generic eggs are $1.65/dozen, beginning of the year they were 79 cents.

Fresh green beans? Last summer $0.99/lb, now $2.09/lb

Whatever they're smoking across the pond . . . I want some
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If you think you can wait to start gardening, good luck with that!

I'm not saying you can't, but I think it's better to start NOW, while things are still around so you can learn how to garden sucessfully. You'll increase your gardening skills so you'll have food when others are just starting to try to garden.

Sucessful gardening, like most things have a learning curve. Learn now, while you do not have to count on it so you'll know what to do when you do need to count on it.

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