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Old 11-06-2019, 12:13 PM
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For years I have always kept a carbide tip glass breaker in my vehicles. I have recently learned that most late model vehicles are equipped with laminated glass on the windshield AND the side windows. Carbide tip glass breakers will only work on tempered glass. They are USELESS on laminated glass. I really, really want my '66 Olds with rocket 455 back!

Most, but not all, vehicles still use tempered glass on sunroofs and rear window. I would still like an option to break out of a laminated side window. I usually keep the drivers side window open a few inches to let the smoke out. My bad. Is there a way to force this window off track when partially opened with a pry bar or something?

Any other ideas?

PS If you doubt the uselessness of conventional glass breakers there are plenty of articles and youtube video demonstrations.
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This isn't something I have given a lot of thought to, but how about a cheap .380 duct taped to the bottom of the dash in easy reach for either hand? Not the ideal option, but should break the glass at least enough you can find your way out.
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Old 11-06-2019, 12:34 PM
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This isn't something I have given a lot of thought to, but how about a cheap .380 duct taped to the bottom of the dash in easy reach for either hand? Not the ideal option, but should break the glass at least enough you can find your way out.
Better have a few spare mags available:

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Well there goes my line of thinking.. Still stuck in car as ear drums are ruptured ugh

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Explosive bolts. Premature hatch blower - The Right Stuff.
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Have "Q" install a red button under the flip top gear shift knob. Works for James every time.
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My nephew had to break out a boat window made of 4 - 1/4 inch pieces of glass laminated together. He bent the glass breaker on his benchmade knife, pounding with head sized rock failed, finally a fire ax got thru.
Laminated glass would be better for smash and grab car prowl.
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Old 11-06-2019, 02:55 PM
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Does the Gerber LMFII work?

It was touted as the ultimate E&E tool for Helicopter pilots.

Sounds like I need to start carrying an axe within grabbing distance.


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This isn't something I have given a lot of thought to, but how about a cheap .380 duct taped to the bottom of the dash in easy reach for either hand? Not the ideal option, but should break the glass at least enough you can find your way out.
I've worked quite a few wrecks.

I'd not trust the tape, nor that the dash will be there.

If I'm in water I plan on 4 rounds from.my glock.
One in each corner 6-8" from the corner.

that'll enable me to push the glass out.

shot a few Windows too. It'll hold together, but it'll push out.
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... I have a rock hammer in the door pocket, keep a shingle hammer and a fire ax under the back seat (plus a few other tools.)

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Old 11-06-2019, 04:57 PM
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Thanks for (almost) all the replies.

I'm having one of my laminated side windows replaced next week. I'm going to keep the cracked one to experiment on. Had another idea. Laminated glass is two glass layers with a plastic film sandwiched in between. If the window is open a few inches it might be possible to force a strong knife blade in the middle and pry until something breaks. At least I will be kept busy while I curse the government bureaucrat who concocted this idea "to keep me safe". I believe it was due to some moron (not wearing his seat belt) who was ejected from his crashed car when the tempered glass shattered.
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:01 PM
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My concern is going down in water.
Pressure makes it impossible to open the doors.
Electricals for the power windows short out.
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Old 11-06-2019, 08:52 PM
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My concern is going down in water.
Pressure makes it impossible to open the doors.
Electricals for the power windows short out.
You have to wait for the interior to fill with water, pressure is equalized and doors will open if otherwise undamaged.
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You have to wait for the interior to fill with water, pressure is equalized and doors will open if otherwise undamaged.
Yep and the vehicle's electrical system probably won't short out as soon as it goes in the water (takes a bit of time to sink) so could possibly still get a window down if you are quick.
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I haven't tried this in decades but with a mid seventies parts car I used an automatic center punch with great success. Just remember to wear gloves when doing it as your hand will follow.
Didn't try the windshield just the side and rear.
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I always thought if you could plant both feet on the windshield and push, you could pop the windshield out if you were reasonably strong.

Found a video. Drunk gal in bare feet makes short work of a windshield.

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I appreciate this thread. I have a carbide tipped pen for this when driving my little guy with my over bridges. Knowing this I need to change things up. Maybe a cheap Taurus .410 handgun in the car might be good for this. I haven't tested one on a windshield close range. My concern is when the pressure of water is against the glass so kicking it open is out. Any input? Thank you in advance.
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I appreciate this thread. I have a carbide tipped pen for this when driving my little guy with my over bridges. Knowing this I need to change things up. Maybe a cheap Taurus .410 handgun in the car might be good for this. I haven't tested one on a windshield close range. My concern is when the pressure of water is against the glass so kicking it open is out. Any input? Thank you in advance.
Blasting a shotgun inside a closed up vehicle? Don't forget earplugs for all the occupants.
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Interesting. I have not seen a vehicle with laminated side windows. But then, I don't look all that close. My SUV (Dodge) is 2015 and my wifes (Honda) is 2018. Both still have tempered side windows.

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