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Old 11-01-2019, 05:06 AM
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I'm in Fl.
Third time its happened to me,look at a used gun in the display case,decide to buy it.Do the paperwork,then they say it has 17,21,28 days,whatever left on the 30 day hold.
Kinda wish they would say that up front.Wouldn't change my mind,just dissapoint thinking I'm going to walk out with it,then find out I can't.

I understand the 30 day hold,Don't know the process,but to make sure its a legal gun.

Just curious if this is a state or federal law?
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If the gun is being pawned the owner has so many days to buy it back before it can be sold. That's an agreement between the gun owner and the pawn shop.

Florida has a 3 day waiting period, that's a state law.
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For trade ins.
I'm in Fl.
Third time its happened to me,look at a used gun in the display case,decide to buy it.Do the paperwork,then they say it has 17,21,28 days,whatever left on the 30 day hold.
Kinda wish they would say that up front.Wouldn't change my mind,just dissapoint thinking I'm going to walk out with it,then find out I can't.

I understand the 30 day hold,Don't know the process,but to make sure its a legal gun.

Just curious if this is a state or federal law?
Most (all I know of) pawn shop owner in my area do not put merchandise out for display until the holding period is up.
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Is this in Alachua county? Was chatting with a pawn shop owner and he was telling me about these holds. I think it might have been a local, county level ordinance.
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Old 11-01-2019, 08:43 AM
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Collier county.
3 day wait is if you don't have a CCW.
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Sounds more like what Palmetto Tree is referring to. The pawn period isnt yet up.

Other than a state waiting period, what other reason would it be?

Does your receipt/paperwork have a disclaimer or say anything about it?
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This is also a gun shop deal.
I bought a high standard .22,but found out someone had just traded or sold it to "my" gun shop..so 30 day wait.
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They have a wait period here to match the fingerprints and photos the pawn shop takes from the person pawning it and the serial numbers up with a stolen property list. According to the news they've solved 175 robbery cases since implementing the program.
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This is also a gun shop deal.
I bought a high standard .22,but found out someone had just traded or sold it to "my" gun shop..so 30 day wait.
mmm, now Im even more confused.
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Old 11-01-2019, 10:11 AM
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They have a wait period here to match the fingerprints and photos the pawn shop takes from the person pawning it and the serial numbers up with a stolen property list. According to the news they've solved 175 robbery cases since implementing the program.
That sorta makes sense, but wouldnt that occur during the pawn period, unless they sold it to the shop outright?

Seems if the pawn shop put something up for sale, they would have to own it outright before they did.

We should call Chumly down at Pawn Stars and get a ruling.
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Sounds like leads online. It's a program with law enforcement. Essentially anything that is purchased with a serial number or worth over xx amount is photographed and listed on their website and investigated. Usually there is a waiting period for them to complete the investigation or for someone to turn in something is stolen. After that the store is free to sell it.
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That sorta makes sense, but wouldnt that occur during the pawn period, unless they sold it to the shop outright?

Seems if the pawn shop put something up for sale, they would have to own it outright before they did.

We should call Chumly down at Pawn Stars and get a ruling.
Yeah putting stuff on the floor to sell, that can't be purchased outright, is misleading. If I can't walk out with it, they should say so up front. If it was CA, of course everyone knows about the waiting periods and expects them. Here, I'd be very likely to tell them to cancel the sale and leave. I don't have the time unless it's a really good deal or something really hard to find.
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mmm, now Im even more confused.
I should have left out the "pawn" part.
Gun shops here in Fl. have to hold a gun that is traded or sold to a shop for 30 days.
Was just curious if its a state(Fl.) law,or federal.

Sorry about not wording it right.
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No problem.

Must be FLA. Ive bought guns that were brought into a shop while I stood there, in the very next transaction here in PA.
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That sorta makes sense, but wouldnt that occur during the pawn period, unless they sold it to the shop outright?

Seems if the pawn shop put something up for sale, they would have to own it outright before they did.
There are two things, as I understand it. The pawn isn't checked, I believe, only AFTER the pawn is released and the store takes ownership is the stuff sent in and ownership changes, at which point the 30 days starts.

So they do actually own the gun, assuming it wasn't stolen, but they can't yet sell the gun, due to having to wait on the check.

Same thing on guns sold to the shop (which is technically what happens if you allow your pawn to lapse)...they have to be held for the checks.

I actually bought an SKS from a pawn shop that had been involved in a situation where a felon had pawned it, got caught for gun possession, the gun was then in police custody for over 2 years, as they searched for, arrested, then tried the guy. After that, they then returned it to the pawn shop, as it hadn't been stolen and no previous owner had filed a report or claim on it, and they had paid on it. So I got it at a price that was almost 2 years behind the times, paid $150 when they were over $250 almost everywhere.
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No problem.

Must be FLA. Ive bought guns that were brought into a shop while I stood there, in the very next transaction here in PA.
How recently? Not sure when they started holding them, but they do it in Utah as well, at least on pawns.
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Im talking gun shops. The last one for me was about 6 months ago.

The shop I deal with the most puts guns in the list the day they come in and they are often gone the same day.

I recently traded a Glock 21 for a couple of things there. He had my 21 on the website that afternoon, and it was gone the next day.

Must be a state or local law where you boys live.
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I've bought 3 or 4 at shops here in the last couple of years. Go in pick it out, fill out the form, get cleared, pay, and walk out all inside of 10 minutes. No waiting period.
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I've bought 3 or 4 at shops here in the last couple of years. Go in pick it out, fill out the form, get cleared, pay, and walk out all inside of 10 minutes. No waiting period.
What state,and was it a trade in,just to stay on topic?
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There are two things, as I understand it. The pawn isn't checked, I believe, only AFTER the pawn is released and the store takes ownership is the stuff sent in and ownership changes, at which point the 30 days starts.
In NC, there are 4 copies of every pawn ticket.
One is the shop's copy.
One is attached to the item.
One goes to the person pawning the item.
One goes to the Sheriff's Dept or the local PD in larger cities.

The items must be held for 90 days before they can be sold, even though the loan is only for 30 days.

Once they are put out for sale there is no further waiting period.

https://ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation...Article_45.pdf

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The following shall be printed on all pawn tickets:
(1) The statement that "ANY PERSONAL PROPERTY PLEDGED TO A
PAWNBROKER WITHIN THIS STATE IS SUBJECT TO SALE OR
DISPOSAL WHEN THERE HAS BEEN NO PAYMENT MADE ON THE
ACCOUNT FOR A PERIOD OF 60 DAYS PAST MATURITY DATE OF
THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT
. NO FURTHER NOTICE IS NECESSARY.";
Making a payment extends the contract for 30 more days.
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