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Old 11-19-2019, 09:59 AM
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Funny thing here, when a person cuts themselves it is a big red flag of self destruction/mental illness. Head banging is another example. Yet, somehow, some "doctors" are intentionally cutting off healthy parts of a person's body to render said person truly disabled....I think licenses need to be revoked and any claim on ANY form of financial aid for disability barred from anything self inflicted. Kind of like the suicide exclusion on many life insurances.
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So breast enhancement is a mental illness?
The "so what you are saying argument" is a very, very poor debate tactic (a time waster) . It's employed by fools and idiots, especially when losing, it's intention is to place an opponent on the defensive, not for clarification. It's employment adds nothing of substance to the debate, and only serves to introduce delay.
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I know someone who compulsively gets things "done", every year or so out of the country. Huge, exaggerated proportions. Always taking glamour shots, putting them on FB, and getting irate at the perverts. You are wearing a tight, low cut blouse over huge tits. You have had multiple lipos and butt implants. What do you expect? I would absolutely say she has a condition.

I know a woman at work who "wants" to be disabled. She is a rude and unpleasant woman and no one likes her. She had a work group on Facebook, though, which I found interesting. One day she comes in and says she is autistic.

Why, you may ask? Did she see a specialist and get a formal diagnosis? No, her granddaughter was diagnosed and she decided it was a "me too" diagnosis since she felt she shared some of the features. I asked her repeatedly if she had a medical specialist confirm this, she kept saying no and got very angry at me for suggesting it. She wanted to be autistic because then she wouldn't have to be nice, she would have people running around kissing her butt, etc. If she was just a bitch she could be fired (and should have been, IMO). If she was autistic she was "protected" and she could bend everyone over a barrel.

I finally left it at telling her work was not required to give her any accommodations until she had "paper" and she got very angry.

She used to cook BBQ dinners at home and bring them into work in violation of our vending contract. I called her on it and she told me to **** off, she "needed the money". Both her and her husband work at the plant and make well over $100K a year. I reported her to my management. Then she banned me from the group.

But she would be a good example of this transabled crap because she wanted rights and protections that were not hers. A huge difference between her and my blind husband in his wheelchair. Which one is REALLY disabled?
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So breast enhancement is a mental illness?
No, but cutting off your perfectly healthy leg because something happened to you that made you feel like you are actually disabled when you’re not is certainly a sign of mental illness.
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im an atheist, have been since i was 10, but what is more annoying are hypocrites like you.. you sit on some high horse pretending to be superior to christians because what? they have no proof they are right?.. well kid, submit your evidence that you are correct in your assertion that there is no god.. if you cannot do so, then i suggest being a bit more respectful of others rights to their faith

you also took a quit turn from trying to debate me with one of the most retarded arguments i have seen on this forum to an even more retarded attack on christians which has absolutely nothing to do with this topic.. you're just trolling here looking for attention, and people like you are why people with gender identity disorder, will never get the treatment they need to live happy, healthy lives, and so the depression and suicide rates amongst them will always remain high.. i hope that makes you feel good about yourself
I stay out of those arguments because my indoctrination is at war with my life experience. I will never tell anyone that God is not real though because I do not believe that is the case. Life experience tells me that this complex organism we are could not possibly have happened randomly, there is no other example of something like this happening randomly we can point to as evidence it’s possible.

Albert Pike said “we will unleash the nihilists and atheists”, not as a way to make things better but as a way to tear traditional western society apart.
Nihilism is at the center of what’s driving our society’s lack of morals, and our willingness to accept things like what this thread is about. Pedophilia is already accepted in our society, if you want proof of that google “Desmond is Amazing” and watch the cabaret show he does for a roomful of gay men who literally throw money on the stage. The doors should have been chained shut and everyone in there arrested, but no one even blinked an eye. That’s what happens to a society when their moral compass goes away.
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I stay out of those arguments because my indoctrination is at war with my life experience. I will never tell anyone that God is not real though because I do not believe that is the case. Life experience tells me that this complex organism we are could not possibly have happened randomly, there is no other example of something like this happening randomly we can point to as evidence it’s possible.

Albert Pike said “we will unleash the nihilists and atheists”, not as a way to make things better but as a way to tear traditional western society apart.
Nihilism is at the center of what’s driving our society’s lack of morals, and our willingness to accept things like what this thread is about. Pedophilia is already accepted in our society, if you want proof of that google “Desmond is Amazing” and watch the cabaret show he does for a roomful of gay men who literally throw money on the stage. The doors should have been chained shut and everyone in there arrested, but no one even blinked an eye. That’s what happens to a society when their moral compass goes away.
i can agree with that, not the part about being religious, im not, but the rest... but the argument i always use to militant atheists, who annoy me more than any "bible thumper" is for them to prove their own theories to be correct, which of course they can never do.. at which point i point out to them that believing in something they cannot prove, they believe what they do out of faith
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Old 11-19-2019, 01:09 PM
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She used to cook BBQ dinners at home and bring them into work in violation of our vending contract. I called her on it and she told me to **** off, she "needed the money". Both her and her husband work at the plant and make well over $100K a year. I reported her to my management. Then she banned me from the group.

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You seriously reported someone for bringing their own lunch vs buying vending machine sandwiches and chips?!?!
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Old 11-19-2019, 02:35 PM
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So breast enhancement is a mental illness?
If you have an overwhelming thought that your body is not good enough or pretty enough and it gets to the point that you just can’t go on without getting bigger boobs or whatever enhancement then yes, I would say that is a mental illness

Read this and decide if it’s a mental issue
Eyeball tattoos allegedly left 'Blue Eyes White Dragon' woman blind for 3 weeks: 'That was pretty brutal'

https://www.foxnews.com/health/eyeba...n-blind-report

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See I don't really approve of lap bands though. I don't think surgery is the answer generally.

But cosmetic surgery is also used to treat disfigurement. Say a person has cancer and is left with one breast. And I would automatically say than makes sense she is just trying to look and feel normal.

And then I would realize I am defining normal.
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So breast enhancement is a mental illness?
The "so what you are saying argument" is a very, very poor debate tactic (a time waster) . It's employed by fools and idiots, especially when losing, it's intention is to place an opponent on the defensive, not for clarification. It's employment adds nothing of substance to the debate, and only serves to introduce delay.
Thanks for that Socrates. Because ad hominem isn't a poor debating tactic.
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Lol. I equate gender identity disorder with belief that God is real. Both are straight up made up. But both are valid provided you don't need the rest of the world to cater to you.

I was just interested in where people drew the line in what is essentially identity.
im an atheist, have been since i was 10, but what is more annoying are hypocrites like you.. you sit on some high horse pretending to be superior to christians because what? they have no proof they are right?.. well kid, submit your evidence that you are correct in your assertion that there is no god.. if you cannot do so, then i suggest being a bit more respectful of others rights to their faith

you also took a quit turn from trying to debate me with one of the most retarded arguments i have seen on this forum to an even more retarded attack on christians which has absolutely nothing to do with this topic.. you're just trolling here looking for attention, and people like you are why people with gender identity disorder, will never get the treatment they need to live happy, healthy lives, and so the depression and suicide rates amongst them will always remain high.. i hope that makes you feel good about yourself
Not really. I think you need to redefine what is mental illness to something a bit more consistent.

Hey that's a bit weird really doesn't cut it in this case because there is plenty of stuff we do that is weird. And plenty of stuff that is not supported by biological science.

Like we can change genders and that a magical guy can create life.

And offence isn't a counter argument.

In its most simple terms Richard Dawkins made this point. Regards to what belief systems produce consistent results.

https://youtu.be/eob371ZgGoY
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Nomad, we have an exclusive contract on feeding the employees. If someone wants to bring in food TO SHARE that is one thing. Catering meals is another. She was also underselling us on chips and soda.

If she wasn't doing anything wrong she wouldn't have got in trouble, right? But when management was informed they dropped the hammer on her and told her "no more catered meals".

We didn't care if someone got a couple extra $1 chicken specials on Tuesday, brought them into work, and sold them. Not an issue. A full scale food service operation NOT IN A STERILE FACILITY cooked at home with little girls' hair hanging down into the food (she put up a photo) sink in the background had NO SOAP. "Hot" foods kept at room temperature for hours to breed bacteria because she did not have commercial facilities.
She could have very easily have sickened dozens in one night. Management had an issue with that.

Management agreed anyone providing food service on that sort of scale had better be in an approved facility vetted by GSA and food handler permits for the employees. Since we have a binding contract she had to stop or be fired.

She was incredibly greedy and would do anything for a dollar. It's like, how much money do you NEED anyway?

And backstabbing a crippled blind man in a wheelchair and his disabled wife? Even classier.
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We live in the 21st century, at least I do.

I don't care about someones preferred sex and if they want to change it. If I would have the option by some wild magic to turn into a woman to try that perspective for some time I assume I would be interested.
Magic is not available so if someone born with a penis who wants to live like a woman should be able to do it and vice versa.

Why in the hell should I care about that? Does it do any harm to me? Obviously no.

I also do not care what others do in their bed as long as it is consensual. If they have oral sex, anal sex, use bondage, whips, wear latex or green slime or whatever they want.

Nobody should judge that.

I don't call someone mentally ill because they believe in this or that god either, would you? Believing in god is not so much different to believing in voices that whisper to you or believing in ghosts that hunt you.

Believing in doomsday or day x or shtf not few people outside would consider as paranoia and this is a mental illness, too. Hording dozens of weapons for that day X could be considered even dangerous paranoia.

I also do not understand why people disabling themselves is melted into this thread. If someone wants his penis "cut off" and transformed into a vulva has nothing to do with disabling yourself.

A penis is not a required thing to be a perfectly normal Homo sapiens, believe it or not.
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So she was selling them.

Not eating them?

That's different.
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Yes, selling dozens of dinners at a time. So many she had to get one of the rolling carts to bring them around to all the workers. She started it by calling them "fundraisers" for "families in need" would pick a random family and put a photo up on her flyers "Help Bob battle cancer!" sell $15 dinners and Bob would get $1 for each meal.

Then she stopped with the "fundraiser" thing and admitted she was keeping all the money for herself.

I don't care what someone brings for their own lunch or even for some friends, but directly undercutting my business, when I pleaded, begged her please don't our sales were terrible already, she told me to **** off she was going to do what she wanted. And added chips and soda (things we absolutely do sell) to the menu. That's when I reported her.

The other vendor, for instance, has an employee selling pies. Very overpriced pies. But he is OK with that and so are we. $30 a pie? No one is that cute. Bringing in something that is in direct competition to us like chips and soda is a problem.

Also, as I mentioned, the food safety issue. I asked her a couple of basic food safety questions and she didn't know the answer or even bother to look them up. No soap by the sink, little girl seasoning meat with waist length hair hanging down and touching the meat (she thought it was a "cute" picture). I mentioned all this to our consultant and he said "Hell, no" and immediately went to management.

Because a lot of people don't know, if you eat a sandwich for breakfast and get sick, it is not the sandwich. It is what you had for lunch or dinner the day before that got you (bacillus cerus being an exception). We had some concern Barbara would make them sick, but they would blame us.

One problem we are having lately, they have put in commercial refrigerators, a filtered water fountain, ice machine, microwaves, racks for lunches, etc. Good management but it hurts our sales, but management has done this so we STFU. Now management is bringing in catered meals for the staff and giving them away. We can't complain because they are not SELLING them but you can bet sales are awful those days.

It is nice to see the employees better cared for, though.
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If I would have the option by some wild magic to turn into a woman to try that perspective for some time I assume I would be interested.


and there you have it...lol

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Not really. I think you need to redefine what is mental illness to something a bit more consistent.

Hey that's a bit weird really doesn't cut it in this case because there is plenty of stuff we do that is weird. And plenty of stuff that is not supported by biological science.

Like we can change genders and that a magical guy can create life.

And offence isn't a counter argument.

In its most simple terms Richard Dawkins made this point. Regards to what belief systems produce consistent results.

https://youtu.be/eob371ZgGoY
i dont need to redefine what a mental illness is, modern psychological and psychiatric sciences recognize it as a mental illness.. its you nutjobs on the left convinced there are more than two genders denying science, as you typically do
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We live in the 21st century, at least I do.

I don't care about someones preferred sex and if they want to change it. If I would have the option by some wild magic to turn into a woman to try that perspective for some time I assume I would be interested.
Magic is not available so if someone born with a penis who wants to live like a woman should be able to do it and vice versa.

Why in the hell should I care about that? Does it do any harm to me? Obviously no.

I also do not care what others do in their bed as long as it is consensual. If they have oral sex, anal sex, use bondage, whips, wear latex or green slime or whatever they want.

Nobody should judge that.

I don't call someone mentally ill because they believe in this or that god either, would you? Believing in god is not so much different to believing in voices that whisper to you or believing in ghosts that hunt you.

Believing in doomsday or day x or shtf not few people outside would consider as paranoia and this is a mental illness, too. Hording dozens of weapons for that day X could be considered even dangerous paranoia.

I also do not understand why people disabling themselves is melted into this thread. If someone wants his penis "cut off" and transformed into a vulva has nothing to do with disabling yourself.

A penis is not a required thing to be a perfectly normal Homo sapiens, believe it or not.

The enlightened modern German. The French have to be very pleased beyond measure (as least as long as the Germans keep financing the silly ass EU for them.
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we live in "The Age of Catastrophic Enlightenment".

You know the saying, "Keeping up with the Joneses"? where they buy a big screen TV, so you have to? This "enlightenment" is the same thing whereby people want to seem so smart, tolerant and "loving", that they compete with each other to be the "best" "person" accepting others to the point that they compete with "accepting" (enabling) psychological disorders in order to appear the most enlightened.

Our society is so damaged that if you're not among the "enlightened", then they attempt to shame you into silence.

It's a race to the bottom.
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Anyone who is unsure if transsexuality is a mental illness can compare it to this disturbing ****.
Transabled people are people who feel they are supposed to be disabled, even going so far as to mutilate themselves to achieve a disability. There are doctors who remove healthy functioning limbs for people who are experiencing “body dysphoria” and feel like they are a disabled person stuck inside a healthy body.
This is a mental illness that’s being treated as the other mental illness that’s called transsexuality, where they also cut off healthy functioning body parts to achieve the body they feel they should have been born into.

This is what happens when mental illnesses are nurtured by a sick society, when societal norms are rejected and the debasement of morals are accepted. When no one is willing to stand up and say something is wrong it eliminates the “bottom”, the lower limit of behavior that society finds acceptable.

Just when you think you’ve seen the most ridiculous **** you’ll ever see along comes something like this. Personally, anyone who willingly disabled themselves should be banned from any social assistance whatsoever.

I was unfortunate enough to also see a documentary on gay men in NYC who intentionally contract HIV for the benefit (yes, they call it a benefit) of being accepted into tight social networks of support groups for people with HIV, and for the ability to have the city pay for their room and board. Evidently NYC has programs that provide all that for residents with HIV, and they actually have their own terminology for the people involved. “Gift-givers” are the people who intentionally infect other men with HIV, and “bug chasers” are men who actually seek out someone with the HIV to infect them with the disease.

The more I learn the more I wish I didn’t know sometimes, and the more I know that without some sort of spiritual anchor this society is doomed.

http://daily.jstor.org/the-complicat...-transableism/
This problem as you call it has been around for thousands of years, so we must have had sick societies throughout history. And if you read on the decline of Christianity in this nation, you will find that many good young Christians leave organized religions because of the hatred of people against the LGBT communities. If we want to keep Christianity strong in our country, we either need to force the young to follow you or else find a way to slow the decline. And as societies get older and die, they will be replaced by pro-LGBT ones.

This morning I watched a podcast where a couple in their early forties were ceasing their Sunday worship because their church leaders spoke out against this group.
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Anyone who is unsure if transsexuality is a mental illness can compare it to this disturbing ****.
Transabled people are people who feel they are supposed to be disabled, even going so far as to mutilate themselves to achieve a disability. There are doctors who remove healthy functioning limbs for people who are experiencing “body dysphoria” and feel like they are a disabled person stuck inside a healthy body.
This is a mental illness that’s being treated as the other mental illness that’s called transsexuality, where they also cut off healthy functioning body parts to achieve the body they feel they should have been born into.

This is what happens when mental illnesses are nurtured by a sick society, when societal norms are rejected and the debasement of morals are accepted. When no one is willing to stand up and say something is wrong it eliminates the “bottom”, the lower limit of behavior that society finds acceptable.

Just when you think you’ve seen the most ridiculous **** you’ll ever see along comes something like this. Personally, anyone who willingly disabled themselves should be banned from any social assistance whatsoever.

I was unfortunate enough to also see a documentary on gay men in NYC who intentionally contract HIV for the benefit (yes, they call it a benefit) of being accepted into tight social networks of support groups for people with HIV, and for the ability to have the city pay for their room and board. Evidently NYC has programs that provide all that for residents with HIV, and they actually have their own terminology for the people involved. “Gift-givers” are the people who intentionally infect other men with HIV, and “bug chasers” are men who actually seek out someone with the HIV to infect them with the disease.

The more I learn the more I wish I didn’t know sometimes, and the more I know that without some sort of spiritual anchor this society is doomed.

http://daily.jstor.org/the-complicat...-transableism/
Regardless of what you think about this group, you can't stop them from being in our society unless you get a group of men and go out and kill every one of them or at least given them no rights. The KKK and other groups tried that with the Blacks. How did that work out?

Older citizens are more opposed to these people than are the younger generation, but the older will be replaced by the younger and then what? I was surprised at an NPR news article recently that said that since 2010 24% of all marriages in this country are mixed color and almost every TV commercial has Blacks in it and many sitcoms have gays.. So if you hope to stop progress, you need to find a better way than what is now being tried.
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