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Old 11-15-2019, 09:52 PM
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For those of you who like to tinker as well as shoot...would you trust your 80% pistol as much as the one that you bought that was completely assembled?
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:59 PM
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Only one way to figure that out.
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I haven't built any yet. But I wouldn't build one if I didn't think I could depend on it.

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The receiver is just 1/10 of the money you will spend to finish it. Even less if you want nice parts. I see no advantage to it unless you just want the satisfaction of a job well done. You can buy a stripped lower and still not build a rifle, so that piece of paper means nothing.
I myself have created an aluminum piece of scrap. It is definitely not easy. Even the one I screwed up could be used if necessary. It would be missing a couple of important features, the safety for one!!! HeeHee What can I say. Out of all the different jobs I had in my life, machining wasnt one of them!
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Old 11-16-2019, 12:52 AM
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if you successfully fire one magazine through it, why would you not trust it? how is it different from any other lower, it it's machined right?
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The receiver is just 1/10 of the money you will spend to finish it. Even less if you want nice parts. I see no advantage to it unless you just want the satisfaction of a job well done. You can buy a stripped lower and still not build a rifle, so that piece of paper means nothing.
I myself have created an aluminum piece of scrap. It is definitely not easy. Even the one I screwed up could be used if necessary. It would be missing a couple of important features, the safety for one!!! HeeHee What can I say. Out of all the different jobs I had in my life, machining wasnt one of them!
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if you cannot even finish an 80% receiver properly then you are sorely lacking in a very useful skillset
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The receiver is just 1/10 of the money you will spend to finish it. Even less if you want nice parts. I see no advantage to it unless you just want the satisfaction of a job well done. You can buy a stripped lower and still not build a rifle, so that piece of paper means nothing.
I myself have created an aluminum piece of scrap. It is definitely not easy. Even the one I screwed up could be used if necessary. It would be missing a couple of important features, the safety for one!!! HeeHee What can I say. Out of all the different jobs I had in my life, machining wasnt one of them!
then it's up to you to take that weakness, and eliminate it by learning to do the things you cant do now.. so you botched your first attempt.. try again until you get it right, the skills you gain from learning how to machine go far beyond firearms and they are good skills to have
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Yes I would
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Ive had new ,maintained military rifles that have had a total failure. If it happened when the chips are down you better have a backup. An 80% is no different.
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WWWAAAYYYY back when
The department got a delivery of 200 brand new direct from the factory 100% NIB, S&W 586s complete with Dept insignia and special numbering to start replacing the aging model 19s that were general issue for those who didn't use their own personally owned choice of sidearms.
One of our range officers was a S&W trained armorer.
Out of 200 there were 15 of them even he could not get to function properly they were so screwed up. Those went back to the factory.
He had to work on 23 others before they passed for issue
the rest were fine.

My own experience has been when the Model 59s came out I got one to try. It was broke in the box before a round was ever fired from it. Pull the trigger and you could feel the pawl that worked the hammer sliding by.

Brand new in box guns can still be broke.
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if you cannot even finish an 80% receiver properly then you are sorely lacking in a very useful skillset

Mmmmm, its not a weakness, just a brain fart! Without revealing my cards, I am VERY GOOD with my hands,tools, and abilities.
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Was just reading elsewhere that the boy who fired up the school the other day, may have been using a "ghost gun" (their term). Sounds like it might have been a kit on an 80% build.

It also seems he had a malfunction with it and had to clear it. Maybe theres a clue there.
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Not yet.

Building a glock 19 80% and so far I have not had it be 100% for the two range trips I tried tinkering with it.

I think I need to remove more of the frame material where the recoil spring goes and maybe replace the slide stop.

I don't trust any gun right away. They have to prove themselves. If I can get the glock 80 to run 300 plus rounds in a row without a fail then yeah I would trust it enough
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Polymer80 frames are easy to mill out. VERY EASY.

You only need a few hand tools and a cordless drill.

Now assembling it is also easy with YouTube videos. The hardest part for a novice is installing the rear sights.

They will function with Glock OEM parts and will run like a OEM Glock.

The issues occur when you start swapping out parts to lighten the trigger pull and shortening the trigger pull.

Unless you understand how Glock parts interact with each other you may end up with 3 types of problems.

Some of the best pistols I own are built off of Polymer80 frames.

YMMV
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Old 11-18-2019, 08:38 AM
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Mmmmm, its not a weakness, just a brain fart! Without revealing my cards, I am VERY GOOD with my hands,tools, and abilities.
then you cant blame the 80% for that. i think the more people learn to build, repair, and maintain on their own, the more independent and prepared they'll be
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Old 11-19-2019, 10:42 PM
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for those who don't get "why"

pick something you own, like a stereo system or a camera
make up a related name, like RockBox or Cannon
use the serial number of the stereo system or camera
etch those on the lower

keep your mouth shut

if the gun is stolen and recovered you can prove it's yours. doubly so if you keep the CNC engraver gcode or the etching stencil, with deliberately induced errors like little notches

and if you would rather not have the confiscated or recovered firearm associated with you

keep your mouth shut
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I'm paranoid and I don't even trust myself. So I always have a backup option.
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I'd avoid using it assuming functioning state of law and order as the lack of a S/N is going to lead to all sorts or secret squirrel problems
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