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![]() 357 is capable of considerably higher energy levels if fired from a gun with enough barrel length to achieve it.
In a 2" pocket revolver, the difference is not so much. For an all purpose handgun, a 4" or 6" medium framed 357 is hard to beat. For a pocket gun, a 2" 38 is pretty good too. |
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![]() Here's a site that is a useful reference when comparing cartridges and barrel lengths.
http://ballisticsbytheinch.com/index.html I don't think I've ever tried 38's thru my lever gun. I'm sure they would work, just never had reason to do it. I guess I always figured the advantage to the rifle was the ability to shoot full power 357's fast and accurate. Downloading with 38's wouldn't seem to have any benefit. I think some cowboy shooters shoot 38's in their lever guns to shave time off their scores due to lower recoil but that is sort of a specialized application. |
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The 38 is identical aside from being shorter so it fits, just as a 22 LR gun can shoot 22 shorts |
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![]() Huge difference.
A .357 out performs a .38 special by a big margin out of any barrel length. Most people erroneously believe that is not the case in short barrels Some numbers from www.ballisticsbytheinch.com Cor Bon 110 gr 2" barrel .38 = 675fps, Cor Bon 110 gr 2" barrel .357 = 928fps and Federal 125gr JHP 2".38 = 700fps Federal 125gr JHP 2".357 = 949fps A .357 out of a 2" barrel performs about the same as a .38 out of a 4" barrel, and out of a 3" barrel, a .357 will outperform a .38 from just about any (regular) length handgun barrel. IOW, out of a short barrel there is even more reason to use a .357 mag as a .38 special becomes marginal. |
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![]() I ended up running a lot of 38s through this Henry chambered for 357 today. Almost no problems other than a very very SLIGHT hangup on one shell that didn't end up mattering. There is a slight but insignificant difference in recoil and there is slightly less sound.
No real difference in hitting targets at any distance. The only issue that I can seem to find is there is more powder smell so I am guessing more residue in the rifle so I may have to clean it more often if I switch to only 38s for target and plinking everyday. |
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![]() I look at 38 spec as a plinking, target and fun round. Upon occasion I carry a "K" frame smith in 38 while in the back pasture. there are several types of vermin there. I look at the 357 as a hunting and social work round 125 JHP or pistol and 180 JSP or 125 barnes for the 357. I have shot boar with 158 gr LSW with good results. 12-18" of penetration
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Top .357 ME with 125gr. projectile is 580 to 583 ft lbs. .38specials drop to 342 or below ft lbs. I carry a 38 special anyway. I have never seen one but there is something called a .38 super with 431 ft lbs. Just remember all ratings are based on the assumption you hit the target. I know people that will let the anticipation of their .357 mess with them so badly that I can out shoot them. Buy the best gun for you. |
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None of the other variables are going to make up for the difference your data shows. |
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So my database data is supported by this and the other post of actual field test. |
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![]() The difference? how about a 38 special semi jacket 158 grain will leave big dent on 55 gallon drum. 357 magnum same bullet will blow a hole through both sides.
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![]() if i had to pick either caliber and couldnt buy guns in the other, i'd choose 38 special
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