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Old 11-11-2019, 10:50 PM
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Well there you have it, second hand knowledge, someone who visits twice a year and an article posted by someone from Washington about the difficulties Californians face when moving to Idaho. Is Idaho changing? it sure is, I just don't understand the negative spin on it.

C'mon Pete, I'm sure you can keep up.
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Tune into 670 am KBOI on a app and listen to Nate shelman at around 3pm. You will hear all that's going on in the Treasure Valley. From the skyrocketing housing prices to the homeless problems in Boise and the surrounding areas. Then you dont have worry about all of that second hand information.
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Old 11-12-2019, 11:36 AM
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C'mon Pete, I'm sure you can keep up.
I use to live and work (40+ years) in the Treasure valley. I retired and moved back up north to the stomping grounds of my youth, once you get out of the valley you find very little has changed. Although they have quit spray painting Californians go home on the back of road signs. So that's changed, yes those people are still around...


As far as housing prices go scarcity competition and location are what is driving the high cost of housing in the valley. Once you get out and away from the valley housing prices are not quite as bad.


What is happening to original Idahoan perception is a lot like original settlers syndrome. As long as those moving here adopt the lifestyle and integrate into the culture, they are accepted and other than growth very little changes.
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Northern Idaho was a target for our retirement place. We had traveled through a few times while doing military moves and it is beautiful.

After researching though it appears it is a hub for a lot of WS and separatist groups. I am sure it is not as bad as the media makes it to be. Any persons of color or current residents that have any insight? Would you move to Northern Idaho if not White or in a mixed marriage?
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Old 11-12-2019, 03:19 PM
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Northern Idaho was a target for our retirement place. We had traveled through a few times while doing military moves and it is beautiful.

After researching though it appears it is a hub for a lot of WS and separatist groups. I am sure it is not as bad as the media makes it to be. Any persons of color or current residents that have any insight? Would you move to Northern Idaho if not White or in a mixed marriage?
I am mixed race, though I am basically white looking for the most part.

There is some racism around, my dad "talks" racist though he married my mom knowing she was mixed and has me a mixed child so it clearly doesn't actually mean much to him. LOL... He called complaining up a storm about his VA Tri care representative being black and giving him a hard time over the phone because he was white... I noted that my Tri care rep is a black woman and we get along great over the phone, he remarks... "that's because you sound like a black man"... LMAO...

Quite honestly growing up in Oregon and Washington I had never met a white separatist or neo nazi or white supremacist by the time I joined the Navy at age 18. Then I join the Navy and end up on the east coast and the instant people here the words Oregon or Idaho they automatically go talking about all of the skinheads, neo nazi's and white supremacists. Been here my entire life and I have yet to meet one myself.. I am sure they exist I mean you hear about such groups now and then on the news, but honestly I think they exist in pretty much every state in the US.

North Idaho is certainly pretty "white" I believe it is about 96% Germanic or somewhere thereabouts. As a kid other kids were wanting to know what "mix" I was as I was much darker skinned and had a bit of a different face than everyone else. I generally never really had any issues with being mixed though other than plain curiosity.

As I got older everyone assumed that I was Mexican, even the Mexicans assumed I was Mexican.. lol... They would come up to me rattling off in Spanish and I would return a look of bewilderment to them as I do not understand a word of Spanish. They would then get after me and tell me I should more proud of my heritage. I would then as nicely as possible explain to them that I am in fact not "Hispanic"... I am in fact primarily Norwegian mixed with North African Berber, Egyptian, Arabic, Sephardic Jew, Japanese and Native American. Even after that statement many Hispanics still didn't believe I wasn't Hispanic... lol....

I personally don't find race to be an issue here, certainly not like it was back east and down south. I saw a lot more overt and open racism back east than I have ever seen out west. Just my 2 cents worth...
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I think yal are doin it all wrong. conservatives need to move into liberal states to even the vote , moving away just proves they are right.
Where do you live?

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I think yal are doin it all wrong. conservatives need to move into liberal states to even the vote , moving away just proves they are right.
I can see the point but who would want to put themselves into living in areas that restrict their freedom?

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I think yal are doin it all wrong. conservatives need to move into liberal states to even the vote , moving away just proves they are right.
Considering that Conservatives are outnumbered by liberals, that would simply further dilute the Conservative vote. Even here in Idaho the effects of Liberals are being felt, hell here In Latah county the vote went for Hillary Clinton in the last election. We need to keep the Conservative vote concentrated and not let it get watered down by the liberals.

I see the comments on how tough it is for a Californian to move to Idaho, as long you are Republican you have nothing to be concerned about... If you are Democrat I suggest you move to Oregon or Washington instead of Idaho... Both those states are already lost causes. If the Republicans there were smart they would exodus the states and move to Idaho, Montana etc...
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I've lived in SW Washington near the Columbia Gorge, off and on, for about 4 decades since I was 10. Its a great place to live with great fertile land, the Columbia River near by, low cost hydroelectric power, decent solar and wind power potential, mountains, temperate climate, forests, large state parks nearby, very good schools, and any big city stuff you might need in near by Portland. However, it has changed drastically. In the last 5 years or so:
It's become illegal to shoot on our farm (except shotguns) and now all the I-1639 gun laws and similar idiocy.
You have to get a permit from the county to move more than 30 cubic yards of dirt.
There is a more or less permanent burn ban.
You need to get a permit to take down a tree larger than 6" in diameter.
The town I grew up in has grown from 3,000 to 30,000 population and has 5-20 minute traffic jams between schools that are only 2-3 miles apart.
We now have homeless people on the streets.
To build a shed to house hay, or farm animals, you need to have it engineered and permitted.
Wood burning appliances are pretty much banned.
They keep ramping up taxes at an alarming rate.
The whole place has turned into a mini-california!
So, we've decided, in 3 years, when the kids are out of school, we're leaving the family farm never to return. Idaho is my first choice so far so we are going to start taking trips there a few times a year to see what it's like and where we might want to end up.
Idaho may not be a perfect utopia but it sure is a heck of a lot better than where we are now.
Washington is lost.
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