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I've arrested about 400 felons and never once got into a fist or elbow fight with one. I have taken a few to the ground, but mostly used slapjacks, nightsticks, or firearms.

I never thought police officers (or innocent citizens) should risk their health or lives unnecessarily by getting into unarmed man-on-man brawls with criminals who may be carrying concealed weapons or have buddies who might "jump in". Once I told a felon (or even someone who had committed a serious misdemeanor) that they were under arrest, it was an absolute certainty that they were going to jail (or the hospital, or the cemetery) their choice. The vast majority could tell what was going to happen and chose jail. The other few? Well......... I took them all down one way or another and I never got injured and none ever got away.

Ahhhh, the "good old days" when the law protected the "good guys", prosecuted the "bad guys", and police were encouraged to do whatever it took to take dangerous criminals off the streets!
I USED to carry one of the smaller springy saps to get the attentions of individuals when needed, but some of the guys carried those horse uhhhh appendage ones as we used to call them. I saw a number of broken bones on people as a result of injudicious application to the wrong body parts. They were devastating.
because of complaints the city said no more saps.. which strangely enough resulted in more folks being arrested being injured because it required more night stick application than the shock of a good shot with a sap could provide. THey even sent everyone to stick school to teach the LAMB BATON METHOD which was striking only knees and elbows and BOY did that NEVER WORK!!!!

I usually just took fighters down using hands on techniques I had learned very early in life.
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Elbows were banned from an MMA league called Pride back in early 2000's. Why? Because an elbow is dangerous. When i trained (like 2 years) in TKD, elbows were used when Jamming (staying in close so your opponent cant get a got shot) someone. Worked well. I could hang with black and brown belts pretty well as an orange.
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Bas Rutten was forced to use palm strikes per the rules and
He devastated many many opponents
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Originally Posted by Jack Swilling View Post
Bas Rutten was forced to use palm strikes per the rules and
He devastated many many opponents
Bas Rutten is one of the amazing pioneers of MMA. He fought in the Pancrase circuit which didn't allow closed fist strikes to the head at the time so he got really good at using the palm heel.

Now Pancrase is a regular MMA promotion and probably the 2nd-largest Asian MMA promotion behind One Championship.

As far as elbows & MMA, most states ban them at the amateur level but allow them in the pros.
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in 7th grade we were playing a game that combinded football and soccer. i forgot the name. i had the ball and was trying to pass it but was surrounded and someone behing was trying to punch the ball out but kept hitting me in the ribs. i came around with an elbow and spread his nose all over his face. no one tried to punch the ball out from behind me after that.
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When I first started studying martial arts many years ago I bought the fantasy that I could toughen up my knuckles by beating on things with them. So I worked out a lot with a heavy bag and I broke boards with my knuckles (but it didn't take long to figure out that I didn't want to do that anymore). After awhile though I came to the realization that I was turning my hands into clubs made out of dead flesh.

This of course is counterproductive, since hands that do what God designed them to do make the best weapons. How does a club made out of dead flesh compare to a hand that can manipulate a gun, or a knife, or a cigarette lighter, or a thousand other things, for example.

So I went to palm heel and hammerfist strikes instead. These work very well on my tire dummy, and can penetrate into it about as well as a baseball bat, so they are capable of substantial power.

I don't like to use any joint for striking, but would use elbow or knee strikes in the right situation.

The best martial art is probably the one that uses anything that's illegal in MMA competition as its basis. I remember seeing an MMA match once where two guys beat the hell out of each other round after round and just kept going. I was impressed with how tough they were. Then one of them threw out a light jab and didn't make a fist and his finger accidently hit his opponent in the eye; the opponent dropped to the ground instantly and was out of the fight (thank God his eye was not injured seriously).
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