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Old 09-26-2016, 07:02 PM
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Thanks for your input, that's why I think bugging in is the correct option for Manhattan unless it's really hits the fan.
Just being aware of the pitfalls and hazards allows for proper planning.

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You "can't" prep in New York State? Here in Central New York's finger lakes region we grow all sorts of agriculture with our fine soil and plentiful water. It is wine country after all. Grapes anyone? And as for it being cold in the winter, I feel pretty toasty here with my propane fueled forced air and my wood stove with a 16 acre wood lot. And as for population density, well, we are a full hour South of Rochester with a very low population density and great student/teacher ratio. Even the neighbor's are nice. No complaints here other than I wish I could stay.
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We're also in the Finger Lakes.
We're in good shape here.
New York laws are problematic but we cope.

Most if not all open source nuclear targeting maps are bogus.
Use your head and don't get distracted.
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I am in the city...i have bug out bag, canned food, flashlights, batteries of various sorts, n95 masks, utility cutting tools, camera for logging visual data.

the whole approach is about getting out rather than staying in in case of SHTF


regarding self-defense..ny laws are the worst...u cant even own a pepper spray or a small pocket knife.
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Live in lower Catskills mountains of NY state. 1 1/2 to 2 hour drive if weather and traffic
are good. Bad weather or heavy traffic can turn into half a day. Live on a lake surrounded by heavily wooded 1500 acres. Likeminded neighbors all know each other and armed. Unlimited amount of water and firewood. Not located along any major highways. But still......only a few hours north west of the zoo.
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I grew up about 30 minutes south of Utice, NY. Prepping there is very doable. My dad grew up on a dairy farm with very little money. They had a large garden. Canned a lot of what they raised. Chickens supplied the eggs and some meat. They got their milk from the barn. Cut wood for the winter. Unlike a lot of places out west, you don't have to worry about watering the garden. It rains plenty up there. Also, fishing was pretty good when I was a kid fishing the Unadilla river. Plenty of small game in the woods. Plenty of whitetail deer as well. Our house didn't have a well. It had a spring. Always had water unless it was a unusually dry summer. I would say upstate NY would be a pretty good place to prep.
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I grew up about 30 minutes south of Utice, NY. Prepping there is very doable. My dad grew up on a dairy farm with very little money. They had a large garden. Canned a lot of what they raised. Chickens supplied the eggs and some meat. They got their milk from the barn. Cut wood for the winter. Unlike a lot of places out west, you don't have to worry about watering the garden. It rains plenty up there. Also, fishing was pretty good when I was a kid fishing the Unadilla river. Plenty of small game in the woods. Plenty of whitetail deer as well. Our house didn't have a well. It had a spring. Always had water unless it was a unusually dry summer. I would say upstate NY would be a pretty good place to prep.
The cold can be bad, but it can also be a blessing because it is a natural barrier. It keeps bad people from roaming around especially when there is knee high snow ad low temepratures they will freeze.

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I grew up about 30 minutes south of Utice, NY.

Correction, I meant to type "Utica, NY"
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Correction, I meant to type "Utica, NY"
Thats not a bad area from a survival standpoint. I am 60 miles north of NY and not far from a major nuclear plant.

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hunting and fishing in my area is superb plus my canned food I'd be good for a year at least before I might worry a little

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I too am in the CNY area. I'd be hesitant to eat much in the way of local fish. Most of the lakes and streams here were poisoned by industry--lead, mercury, etc.-- 100 years ago. The problem is that time does not solve these issues. NY state recommends eating only ONE fish (caught in areas like Onondaga, Madison, Cortland and nearby counties) *per month* if you are a healthy adult. If you are elderly, in poor health, pregnant or lactating, the state warns not to eat ANY fish caught here.

Onondaga Lake earned the title of "most polluted lake in America" and it was a "dead lake" for a loooong time. It was so hazardous that swimming was forbidden by 1940 and fishing was prohibited by the 70s. The problem is that it's not JUST Onondaga Lake-- all the local waterways were treated like a big dumping ground. "Got hazardous waste? Chuck it in the waterways!" seems to have been the mentality.
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Have to be careful where in upstate ny due to if the dam's give out there will be major flooding but the cold is not so bad its the heat you need to fear
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I agree with most living in upstate ny for the last 15 yrs I can say even if shtf most people up here have alot better chance of survival we have alot of open land and can move through tree and hill cover to get farther out of towns
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Definitely possible to successfully prep in NY. If someone isn't used to cold weather living then it would be less than ideal I guess. However, if your used to it then no different than any other state I would assume. You learn to adapt to the environment you're in.
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Born and raised on the finger lakes. Left for the west 1971.
As a kid and teen this area was excellent for foraging, hunting, fishing, gardening. Still visit and it hasnít changed much in those respects. Population density is clustered. Lots of forest. Sharpen your cold weather skills and your good to go.
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Without government interference, NYS is a great place to prep. Sure winters can be harsh, but many states worse off than us.

Due to political state and having NYC attached, it can make for less than desirable goods.
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I'm in Western NY, rural area south of Buffalo. Couple years back my car broke down while I was lucky enough to be just around the corner from my regular mechanic, so I limped her over. My second car was back home and that was only a short 10-12 minute drive away, so I thought "hey, I bet I could walk/jog back in no time at all". 2-3 hours later I arrived home exhausted and soaked from a sudden freezing rain that broke out halfway through my miserable run of the gauntlet.

What's my point? It took me hours on foot to travel a distance that seemed like nothing at all in a car. The city of Buffalo was an additional 30 minutes up the road... so 8-12 hours of beating the ground with your feet just to get generally out to where I live. You think city slime are going to take a huge chance and wander hours and hours into the country (with no sense of direction, mind you) and risk finding nothing? No chance. New York, like most states, is huge. I learned some valuable information by experiencing how horrendous of a walk it was just trying to go a tiny blip on the map... the thick country and sheer scale of distances will keep rural people relatively immune if a total collapse happens.
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Aside from NY's (unenforceable) firearm laws and high taxes, if you think you can't prep in NY then you're doing it wrong.
-Regards, a WNY native.
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Just agreeing with what was said previously, this is a large state that is mostly far, far away from NYC. Here in the shadow of Rochester there are huge rural areas that have been inhabited by people for millennia, literally. The Iroquois people have been here for thousands of years and thrived, so the climate can't be the barrier. Lack of training and prep would be the barrier.

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But if you can't make a living, then how can you possibly prep?
*THIS* is the real question. Taxes and cost of living here can be ridiculous, even outside of NYC and Albany.

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