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Yeah, because such things in "smart cars" have been constantly proven to be reliable all the time. No recalls, failures or hacking of any kind!
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Yeah, because such things in "smart cars" have been constantly proven to be reliable all the time. No recalls, failures or hacking of any kind!
You forgot 'running into pedestrians'
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All .gov and .leo guns only. They are the servant in whom we are meant to have very limited trust. We are the masters in whose service they operate.
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Im sure people said the same thing about semi autos. (and guns when they were first invented vs knives, swords and bows).

You cant stop progress.
That's no progress; it's regress. Progress would be further recognition of the absolute rights of the individual. Violating those rights is regressive.
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I happened to catch the 60 minutes episode on Smart guns. It was very interesting about the issue with New Jersey's law concerning them. Pretty stupid law. Personally I do not see a problem with selling people a smart gun if they want to own one. It is only the fact of meddling anti-gun folks that create a issue of the whole concept. Thanks to NJ law I do not see the idea going anywhere.

I do not buy all the rabid arguments about the gun not working as being anything but a defensive reaction to the fear of gun registration and regulation. If a product does not work people will not want it. It is a shame that both sides of the gun ownership issue have such emotional reactions to a hunk of metal, wood and plastic.
The problem is that there is a law mandating an unfree market, and the bastards who wrote that law keep chastising us for not wanting "free market principles" to apply. It's kind of like passing a law that says that after the first interracial marriage, all marriages have to be interracial, or after the first woman is allowed to play in the NFL, all NFL players have to be women. Where's the sense in any of that?
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Where's the sense in any of that?
Do not attempt to apply common sense, logic or reason to any Left/Liberal policy . . . it could cause a stroke or heart attack.
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Criminals will find a way to disable the "smart" mechanism and be able to use it...just like criminals in the UK convert THOUSANDS of replica blank firing guns to use live ammo and then sell them to would be criminals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPeZqOGVmjs

This person converted 90 blank firing replica machine guns to use live ammo using basic tools he bought on eBay...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2634...t-on-eBay.html
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The problem is that there is a law mandating an unfree market, and the bastards who wrote that law keep chastising us for not wanting "free market principles" to apply. It's kind of like passing a law that says that after the first interracial marriage, all marriages have to be interracial, or after the first woman is allowed to play in the NFL, all NFL players have to be women. Where's the sense in any of that?
Or kinda like Obamacare mandating that everyone has to buy health insurance...
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You forgot 'running into pedestrians'
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... Where's the sense in any of that?
None. A bit like the zero tolerance laws making a pointed finger into a prohibited weapon. *shrugs*
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electronics can be made very reliable.
And easily bypassed, hacked and exploited...before we ever see a "smart gun" I would love to see just one "smart" politician

Technology is fine, but without seriously enforcing laws, hammering criminals and crimes committed with firearms, technology isn't the answer unless the goal is to regulate and control the law-abiding.

Still, there is some serious advantages to electronic triggers...

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Oddly enough, all of my firearms are smart guns.......none of them have have ever fired unless I pulled the trigger....... And that's pretty damn smart for an inanimate object
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That's no progress; it's regress. Progress would be further recognition of the absolute rights of the individual. Violating those rights is regressive.
Im only talking about market driven electronic triggers, not mandatory "smart" triggers.
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Let the Secret Service be the test subjects. This tech would never even see a firing range if that were the case.
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what comes after smart guns? smart books so that i can only read what is approved for me? please leave my constitutional rights alone. all of my rights, all the time.
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For anyone who has had to use biometric readers, this tech should scare you. Biometric readers are extremely finicky. Wipe them clean and carefully press and hold your finger and they MIGHT work after a couple tries.

No emergency equipment should ever be locked behind this horrible technology.
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Things idiot liberals think up to mess with guns that really don't change anything for anyone with half a brain and a little tinkering skills:

-bullet buttons: easy to switch out and just as easy to use in place with modifications

-smart gun: the tech will fail at a critical time. I'll switch to it as soon as LEOs/military do
-"expiring" powder: a liability disaster and impossible to accurately regulate

-headcase stamping: can just file off the stamp

-"assault" weapon features: do nothing to affect the functionality of the weapon

To say nothing of the idiotic laws they pass concerning firearms access.
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Everyone laughed at Joycelin Elder's comment. " We can make safer gunsah, we can make safer booolits"
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For anyone who has had to use biometric readers, this tech should scare you. Biometric readers are extremely finicky. Wipe them clean and carefully press and hold your finger and they MIGHT work after a couple tries.
I used to be very 'hands on' with my field, and when I got a little bit of sand, dirt or grease on my fingers? The readers did not work.

We eventually replaced the readers because they were unreliable.
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Im sure people said the same thing about semi autos. (and guns when they were first invented vs knives, swords and bows).

You cant stop progress.
The difference here is that even with progress you can still buy a knife, or a sword, or a bow, or a single shot rifle, or a bolt action rifle, or a semi-auto loading rifle or a 'smart' gun....the point the article makes is that they will ban all the other stuff and force folks into buying only 'smart' stuff....big difference between that and 'progress' when it leads to the point of infringement.
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