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Old 01-03-2020, 10:08 PM
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9-year old hunter and her dad, in a party of four were mistaken for deer and shot and killed, in either N. or S. Carolina today. Looking for more news on that.
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Old 01-03-2020, 10:44 PM
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Happened near Walterboro SC. Shooter must be a minor or a name would have been released by now. Stories conflict one says by a group they were with the other says be a separate group. Story is the girl and father were hunting on private land behind their home but does not say who owned the property. Details are very poor but not as sad as the tragedy.

If you cannot identify it you don't shoot at it.

The rest of my opinion will need more details.
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Just F***ing sad all the way around.
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Just googled a story. Said they were driving deer. That they were shot by the other people in their hunting party.
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Just googled a story. Said they were driving deer. That they were shot by the other people in their hunting party.
Yes, I have seen conflicting stories. One says they were part of a party driving deer. The other that they were hunting and shot by another party driving deer. The fact that they were shot by buckshot tells me they were mighty close. There is more to know about this tragedy.

As a gun owner and hunter reserving judgement is difficult anytime I hear of such a tragedy.
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Parents know how hard this must be. A loss like that makes you question even going on living.
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I HAVE ALWAYS... wondered how a human can be taken as a deer... especially if as reported in shotgun range??????
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I HAVE ALWAYS... wondered how a human can be taken as a deer... especially if as reported in shotgun range??????
I have wondered as well. Do people just get jumpy and shoot at noises in the undergrowth? Deer don't exactly wear camo and walk on two legs.

These stories always make me think twice about hunting public land.
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I HAVE ALWAYS... wondered how a human can be taken as a deer... especially if as reported in shotgun range??????
Here in Wisconsin it deer hunting used to be bucks only. That required you to see the deer and specifically see horns to shot now you can shoot anything. I personal think that makes it more dangerous. Many people shoot at anything that moves hoping it may be a deer. Some may evens shoot in the direction of sounds in the hope of scaring whatever happens to be there into the open where they can get a good shot. Those are all good ways to "accidentally" shoot a human as well.
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I have wondered as well. Do people just get jumpy and shoot at noises in the undergrowth? Deer don't exactly wear camo and walk on two legs.

These stories always make me think twice about hunting public land.
DON'T know about the Carolinas,
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here in MICh you are in firearms season you are wearing RED or ORANGE by LAW.
No one sneaks around in camo in firearms season. That just sounds really stupid and it IS a good way to get shot.
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80 or 100 yards?
Put your ****ing glasses on.

A little girl is not a deer.
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Here in Wisconsin it deer hunting used to be bucks only. That required you to see the deer and specifically see horns to shot now you can shoot anything. I personal think that makes it more dangerous. Many people shoot at anything that moves hoping it may be a deer. Some may evens shoot in the direction of sounds in the hope of scaring whatever happens to be there into the open where they can get a good shot. Those are all good ways to "accidentally" shoot a human as well.
I grew up in Wisconsin, deer season begins with schnapps.
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I grew up in Wisconsin, deer season begins with schnapps.
That is unfortunately very true. A very large number of Wisconsin hunters are quite intoxicated while hunting. I assume that is the case everywhere but the fact you are pointing it out suggests that isn't the case in other states.
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I grew up in Wisconsin, deer season begins with schnapps.
EVERTHING Begins with ______ beverage.

And every year in Iowa/Wi/Mn/____ COWS are ventilated. You'd think a 1500 BW Holstein is hard to confuse with some mangy whitetail.
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I HAVE ALWAYS... wondered how a human can be taken as a deer... especially if as reported in shotgun range??????
Me too, what happened to orange vests ?

But very sad still
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EVERTHING Begins with ______ beverage.

And every year in Iowa/Wi/Mn/____ COWS are ventilated. You'd think a 1500 BW Holstein is hard to confuse with some mangy whitetail.
This...

How do you mistake a Holstein for a ****ing deer?

FIB's
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Great point about the alcohol. I have a friend who used to live in Ohio and his dad would not let him hunt with a certain group of locals because they were known to have a couple brewskis on the first day of hunting season before heading out in the woods with their guns.

To NW guy's comment, here in the Carolinas, yes, orange is required during gun season, but only on public land. Probably still wouldn't matter if somebody was sufficiently hammered.
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Great point about the alcohol. I have a friend who used to live in Ohio and his dad would not let him hunt with a certain group of locals because they were known to have a couple brewskis on the first day of hunting season before heading out in the woods with their guns.

To NW guy's comment, here in the Carolinas, yes, orange is required during gun season, but only on public land. Probably still wouldn't matter if somebody was sufficiently hammered.
When I was a kid , you could go to the local farmers bar and see 7 or 8 guys with 3030s.

The way to identify a farmer bar is by looking for the Old Style sign
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It's not just an American problem.

https://www.thelocal.ch/20170919/swi...ekking-company

I remember hearing about a hunter that shot a donkey in the US, tagged it and brought it to the game warden. But this was all I could find.

We always brought the horses in next to the barn and just hoped people wouldn't shoot the cattle.
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I HAVE ALWAYS... wondered how a human can be taken as a deer... especially if as reported in shotgun range??????
I agree!

In the lower part of SC there are few open areas for rifle use. There are more now than in the '50 and '60. Shotgun hunting of quail, dove, turkey, squirrel, and deer has been a tradition since the shotgun became the one gun every family had for hunting. Shotguns are even used for coon and illegal night hunting rabbit from the front of a moving car on back dirt roads.

Because of the limits of shotguns usually the hunters would set up in stands. Then the drivers, usually dogs not people, would attempt to cause the deer to move in front of open stand areas.

Taking a deer is taking a deer regardless of range. I cannot prove it but I bet we eat a higher percentage of game killed in SC than other states.

Even when we teens would hunt rabbits illegally, as described above, we would know needy people who would be happy for the rabbits. I never liked squirrel or dive much but I was always reminded what ever I killed had to be eaten.
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