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I have spent many nights reading this site with great amusement. I don't share many of your views on many subjects but always enjoy seeing what interesting posts/ideas are next. I thought after lurking I should say hello even though I may not receive the warmest welcome.
Thanks for the enjoyment so far! Hope there's more to come!
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Welcome to the forums.

We may be wrong, but we're never in doubt!

The best is yet to come...
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Hello and Welcome from Grayling, Michigan! There is a ton of information available on this site, so happy reading and learning- and who knows, you might just change your mind. Enjoy.
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You don't have to agree with everything.....that is the American way. And, you have the right to be wrong all you want! (Kidding)

Not sure why you wouldn't feel like you agreed with most of us here..... Don't you feel it's important to take care of yourself and your family in case of emergency? Don't you feel that if the power goes out you should have a way to stay warm, prepare food, obtain water? Don't you think that if a tornado/hurricane or other natural disaster hits you should have basic preparedness items to help take care of yourself?

That is what most of this is about. Don't get lost in the details. You may not agree that civil unrest is a likely event if the power grid fails. (That's ok) You may not agree that mankind can be a downright savage and kill others to take what they have......that's ok also. If you don't think that way.....don't prepare for it. I've seen it....and so have a lot of others. I'm not surprised by what the unprepared do when disaster strikes.

Welcome to the forum.....learn and take away what you want....and always feel free to give your opinion also. That's what makes our country wonderful.
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Thanks, although i do think being prepared for natural disasters and such short term is wise, I do believe that the government and the powers at be don't have anything to gain by promoting civil unrest or some other nefarious plot/plan. I do believe in our governments power and ability to take care of us in case of emergency, sans short term bottled water/canned food for a few days. I know people can be vicious and cold, but I am optimistic and have faith in people as a whole as well as god(yes Christian here).
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Well, I wish you well. I, on the other hand.....don't share your optimism much on humanity. I spent 13 years on active duty and now I serve as a DoD civilian in Afghanistan. I was deployed down south after Hurricane Katrina and out East after Sandy. I've seen what people will do.....(steal, murder) for such simple things as a TV or a generator. If they are hungry.....it's a no brainer.

Our government is powerless to provide for the masses. All you have to do is look at Katrina to figure that out. They knew it was coming and still couldn't do much more than deliver to certain points........well after the event. If the disaster (such as a grid down event) is larger......God help the millions who are not prepared.
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Amused, ancient Christians also felt optimistic about their governments too. The really ancient ones often ended up in arenas with the lions for the entertainment of their Roman governors. So far, none of us here have heard anything about the powers in Washington wanting to have bread, circuses and arenas with lions in them but, given time, they might just come up with that idea on their own. Just stay tuned here and somebody will let you know if it happens. Of course, you may have to don a tinfoil hat to go read the report behind that story but it's fun here no matter what.
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Thanks, although i do think being prepared for natural disasters and such short term is wise, I do believe that the government and the powers at be don't have anything to gain by promoting civil unrest or some other nefarious plot/plan. I do believe in our governments power and ability to take care of us in case of emergency, sans short term bottled water/canned food for a few days. I know people can be vicious and cold, but I am optimistic and have faith in people as a whole as well as god(yes Christian here).
something I say to people concerning drug companies is:
"it's not that they want to kill or harm you... It's that they want to maximize their profit, and do not care what happens to you in the mean time...."


Similar with government.


Although, if you go back 50 years and see some of the plans that were made..?


Oh, and I have a Degree in Emergency Management and have worked with FEMA.
don't count on the government.
Just... Don't.


Otherwise, welcome. Why would you expect anything less?
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War is a terrible thing especially unneeded or wanted conflict (opinion of course) and thank you for serving. I think no matter what you think of the war you must support the troops. But I think if given the choice most people would try to solve things peacefully before expending the extra effort to do otherwise. There are of course exceptions as in all things. I always enjoy a respectful and open conversation, always better than it devolving into a mindless argument.
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Yes, I understand that history will be repeated if we don't learn from it. But with technology, greater understanding and our world becoming smaller and smaller we have more chance than ever to bridge the gaps between different cultures, ideas, ect. And less chance of the opposite happening. But thats just my boundless optimism and positive outlook talking.
Of course when the government starts having a feed the (blank) to the lions or hunger games style stuff going on, I will be the first to say no more.
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War is a terrible thing especially unneeded or wanted conflict (opinion of course) and thank you for serving. I think no matter what you think of the war you must support the troops. But I think if given the choice most people would try to solve things peacefully before expending the extra effort to do otherwise. There are of course exceptions as in all things. I always enjoy a respectful and open conversation, always better than it devolving into a mindless argument.
I have a different, hard learned prespective.


It takes 2 to make peace , but only 1 to make war.
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I love things just the way they are, here anyway, some parts of the word make me want to cry for the people. I am doing all I can do to help keep things the way they are, but I always believed in hoping for the best while being prepared for the worst. I learned a big lesson when I entered the Banking business abotu 25-30 years ago, I worked for 2 large regional institutions over the course of 10 years,, and what I learned was that those big impressive buildings with the official looking facades. and expensively appointed offices held some very well dressed people who made some incredibly bad judgements,, they were after all, not godlike and omniscient as they liked to project, and I had always believed.. I have some drive and common sense, and rose rapidly in that business, but got out of it due to the stress of dealing in it,, ..by then I had learned that you cannot trust or rely on something because it is large and impressive.. and I see the government that way,, Robert Ringer said something to the effect that the well intentioned fool meaning to help you can cause you more harm than the person blatantly out to do you harm, because at least in the latter case , you are on your guard..
I think most in government mean well, I think it is a very difficult job to do well, and many are not capable,, I refer you to "(Dr.) Peter's Principle" I think something could easily go very wrong, by intention, or misjudgement by humans..I think the likelyhood of things going wrong in varying degrees by natural forces is not only likely , but certain from time to time. therefore I "prep".
Welcome here Amused2013, do not be discouraged by the gloomier aspects of our various posts, nor the apparent callousness of some of our attitudes and preparations, but please, neither regard them as silly and unfounded, borne of unreasoned paranoia.. some may be prove excessive, some may not be adequate ..regardless of the method, attitude, interpretations and projections of the 1000's of posters here, underlying it all is just the good old, historically proven common sense, of our mutual ancestors, the people who preceded us in time who said simple folksy things like "Save for a rainy day" , ageless wisdom from people who were less shielded by ephemeral technology and the wealth of a new continents resources...from the vagaries of weather, politics, the evil that some men do..., more in touch with the realities and vicissitudes of life..
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I can see and understand your perceptive but believe otherwise, I still respect your opinion. I think that most people have a self preservation mentality and would not risk war(conflict) when peace(non-conflict) would be less risky. Of course there are exceptions.
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Great post! I wholeheartedly agree on saving for a rainy day, the posts that put me off are the "gov is putting up fems camps for us too make luxury products for the chinese" type stuff(no offense to those who believe that its just that I don't/can't believe that)
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I can see and understand your perceptive but believe otherwise, I still respect your opinion. I think that most people have a self preservation mentality and would not risk war(conflict) when peace(non-conflict) would be less risky. Of course there are exceptions.
Go check how many years in recorded history have not had a war...
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Go check how many years in recorded history have not had a war...
I appreciate the past but try to look towards the future and I see a bright future, I think with more multiculturalism, diversity and understanding fueled by technology we will be able to understand each other better and avoid future conflicts more and more often.
Its a bit late I'm headed to bed have a great night all.
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Howdy Amused, welcome to the boards from southern Oklahoma.

I choose to believe that we can never let our guard down, try to see the glass as half full but never turn your back. Always prepare so you can have it and not need it rather than have something happen and need whatever and not have it.

That way no matter what happens we'll all be hunkey dorey.
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I appreciate the past but try to look towards the future and I see a bright future, I think with more multiculturalism, diversity and understanding fueled by technology we will be able to understand each other better and avoid future conflicts more and more often.
Its a bit late I'm headed to bed have a great night all.
That's nice. All fluffy and feel good, like snuggling with a kitty. Who doesn't love a kitten? But the real world is a bit different at the moment and always has been. Maybe the future will be better, that seems to be what you're hoping. I hope so too. But I prepare in case it's not. It's the least I can do for my children.

And welcome to the board.
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wish i could be that naive again.it is quite blissful.
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