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Wow, such bold initiative.

Make yourself look ignorant, avoid discussing facts such as the actual math involved in our deficit, and speak in leftist platitudes.

All to bring up the *cough* Patriot Act.

Brilliant!

But let's talk about the Patriot Act. Horrible law passed by congress signed by the incompetent George Bush.

Now, how about you address the previous discussion re the deficit, leftists who refuse to leave us alone, and math?
Ah, so excuses work for Republicans but not Democrats.

Got it.
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And thank you Obama for extending the Patriot Acy and providing us with NDAA!

I don't know why we go on and on about parties. They're both completely corrupt. They're both headed towards the same ends just by different means. GOP through Fascism and Dims through Socialism/Marxism/Communism. The end result will be the same. Bigger and bigger govt. with bigger and bigger debt until they collapse they system.

And look at the all the great wars Obummer is in. First Libya and now he's got troops over at Syria. You think they're there to pick their collective noses? I think not. I think they're there to.... wait for it....

protect the oil! Wouldn't want to miss out on that little casualty of war.

They're all corrupt and they're taking us down with them!

Obama's an ass and a stupid one at that!
Cant really disagree with most of that.

But Democrats havent cornered the market on stupid asses either.
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Well, I can't really disagree with that.

Can we just agree 98% of our elected officials of any party are asses?


But not to insult asses because I really like them. We'll need to think of a new derogatory term for politicians.

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Well this has certainly been an amusing and fascinating read. Thanks for reminding me why I gave up a while back trying to talk to anyone I detected was connected with any party (though note that Mogli has my vote for rational thought here). If this wasn't all so sad (and frustrating), I would be laughing my head off.

By the way, aside from the fact that 'taxing the rich' will only bring in enough cash to fund (current levels - they go up daily it seems) 8 days worth of government spending, most of the rich are now (and have already done) protecting their stashes even further than they used to. I suspect that much less than has been collected from that class under current rates will be collected when the rates for them go up.

Most of the so-called 'rich' (except those closer to you and I in the middle and lower classes who actually have INCOME) are 'wealthy' and that is not the same as earning 'income' at all. Most don't need income - their wealth was already taxed or is protected and they can live without income just fine. And see all the firms giving out their dividends in advance of the increase they feel certain is to come in capital gains. The only people hurt by the 'tax the rich' tactic will be ... those who are running really small businesses (with business income probably between $250k and $500 or so) and employing just a few people - and the few people they employ who will probably lose their jobs. Useful. Not.

In fact, I think you will begin to see many middle/lower middle class people (like myself) will begin to adopt the same stance as the rich - reducing their 'income' to avoid taxes. I will be ... I will deliberately have exactly ZERO income next year and yet I will live fine (though I will not increase my 'wealth' - which is not wealth at all in the conventional sense, it is just my savings but, with my preps, it will support me for years if I am careful) for quite a while on that. Perhaps in time things will get more sensible and I will be able to generate income again but if not, I guess when it runs out, I am a goner. lol When I have ZERO income, I will not take monies back on taxes though. That would defeat my purpose which is just to have zero income - a tax credit would give me 'income'. But, I do not intend to be 'poor' either. I will simply 'disappear' off the tax rolls I hope.

In addition, I will never employ anyone again to work around my property unless I am certain they have a business they are actually paying taxes for. My next door neighbour has been living off people like me for years ... in more ways than one .. I give him jobs around the property and pay him handsomely, he lazily does a half-a$$ed job, milks me for every penny he can, collects food stamps, housing subsidies, you name it .. he probably takes advantage of it (except child tax credits, he has none), cries about how rotten life is and never reports what I pay him (or anything else he makes off the books with others either). Catch 22 there because if I report him for that, I will have to also pay his FICA taxes. So .. no more 'charity' from me. PS He is a declared democrat through and through. He treats me as though I were a republican - which I am not but anyone different in viewpoint than he is, is a hated species in his view and must be republican - to be taken to the cleaners and treated with disdain, while you live off them. lol He is not even nice enough to be afraid to tell me that at every chance he has. You may ask why I employed him in the first place, knowing him as I do - has to do with family ties and frankly 'local charity' but I have had enough. I am cutting off both ends of the stick. I bet I will not be alone in this strategy. It is perfectly legal.

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He he, I'm so sneaky. I put stuff out there....showed your extreme examples are part of the problem not the solution. THey were BS.

*cough* Patriot Act *cough*

It's too much work to answer a fanatic who cant process reasonably.

You may carry on tho, it's entertaining.
Brilliant.

The Patriot Act that has been repeatedly reauthorized by Obama's signature.



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Brilliant.

The Patriot Act that has been repeatedly reauthorized by Obama's signature.
Nevermind that its original draft was by Joe "Dumb****" Biden and only passed after several passages were modified exempting American citizens.
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Oh....and Patriot Act. Thank you GWB. "What laws that conservatives have proposed that "invade our privacy and personal lives?"
This issue has already been addressed towards you previously, here, but you're still hoping to perpetuate the myth that the patriot act was a sole endeavor of the republicans. Its actually disturbing that after being schooled on the topic that you're so biased and desperate that you'll continually regurgitate what you know isn't legit. And even more sickening than that, you'll talk about how heinous the patriot act is and STILL vote for democrats, including Obama, that whole heartily embraced it, all the while blithering about a preference for "smaller government", because you're a good little partisan lemming.
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Brilliant.

The Patriot Act that has been repeatedly reauthorized by Obama's signature.
Once again you step in in the middle and are irrelevant.

He asked for an example of invasion into American's privacy initiated by Republicans. GWB signed that one.

Thanks for playing tho.
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Well, I can't really disagree with that.

Can we just agree 98% of our elected officials of any party are asses?


But not to insult asses because I really like them. We'll need to think of a new derogatory term for politicians.

Agree again, esp. about burros.

Sweet pic.

It's ridiculous to look at this as black and white, good vs evil...as some people seem to.
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I as the OP asked when victors stop acting like victims and you Miss Mare demonstrate to me the answer is never.
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I as the OP asked when victors stop acting like victims and you Miss Mare demonstrate to me the answer is never.
I've lost track.:-) It did get into a 'he said, she said.' As I just wrote, it's not black and white.

My defending recent Dem policies isnt meant to be playing the victim....I guess I shouldnt have been sucked in by an extremist doing the same thing for the other side.

Would like to see an example of what you mean tho.
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I as the OP asked when victors stop acting like victims and you Miss Mare demonstrate to me the answer is never.
Touche.

I don't think victims ever stop being victims, regardless of whether they are victors at some point or another. It is who they are. Victims are victims. They really don't know how to be anything else. They reside on both sides of any line, in both parties. I do think however, judging from what I see around me in the world today, that the majority of victims eventually gravitate to where they feel more comfortable with more of their same kind. And, if one is talking politics, most of them seem to have landed on the Dem side imho.
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Once again you step in in the middle and are irrelevant.

He asked for an example of invasion into American's privacy initiated by Republicans. GWB signed that one.

Thanks for playing tho.
Biden initiated it as a Senator.

Once again, you show your education has gone to waste.



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Ah, so excuses work for Republicans but not Democrats.

Got it.
Sigh.

Now you claim I'm defending Republicans...

Bigger sigh.

I swear it's like talking with a child.

You'll really do anything you can do avoid having to support your leftist platitudes, won't you?

Cracks me up when a liberal/progressive/socialist wants to engage in a discussion, but then backs away when the conservation passes bumper sticker based logic...
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Biden initiated it as a Senator.

Once again, you show your education has gone to waste.


No one passed crap unless the GWB administration drove it. Keep trying to defend your irrelevancy tho. Are you saying they had no choice?
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Sigh.

Now you claim I'm defending Republicans...

Bigger sigh.

I swear it's like talking with a child.

You'll really do anything you can do avoid having to support your leftist platitudes, won't you?

Cracks me up when a liberal/progressive/socialist wants to engage in a discussion, but then backs away when the conservation passes bumper sticker based logic...
It's funny, coming from you, since you have written acres of conservative platitudes here...about 10 times more than me...and I managed to call BS on the few I bothered with.

And I am no socialist, and the fact that you...and many...find liberal and socialist indistinguishable is a true testament to who is the real child here.
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It's racist to vote for the white guy JUST because the other guy is black.
So if a black person voted for Obama just because he's black then THEY are racist. Am I right? Didn't 98% of black voters vote Obama? Seems very racially specific.

Admittedly Romney was a poor candidate but still only 2% of blacks were conservative. Sorry but from an outsiders perspective it seems there must be lots of black racists that voted in your last election.

I was in the US last year and really like the place, but, everything there is about race first which is sad. If it doesn't change there will be race wars there imho.
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No one passed crap unless the GWB administration drove it. Keep trying to defend your irrelevancy tho. Are you saying they had no choice?
You really haven't a clue as to how our government works.



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You really haven't a clue as to how our government works.
Yeah, making unfounded comments really does make you right *sigh*
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Yeah, making unfounded comments really does make you right *sigh*
You seem to think there's a difference between the Democrats and the Republicans.


There isn't.


And that is why you do not have a clue.



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