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Old 06-24-2019, 02:52 PM
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Just like everything else in the world, when you post about anything in a forum, you're gonna get opinions. And a lot of people have a low opinion of the Hi-Point, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

I don't like Glocks, and love Rugers. Just sharing that can throw a thread into a tizzy.

I don't like this whole "yeet" or "yee-yee" thing either, but I'm becoming a little more curmudgeony as the days go by.

At least it's not a Taurus . . .
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For $200 you're getting:
* Horrible ergonomics
* Horrible trigger
* Ugly as sin
* Heavy and blocky
* Among worst take-down of any modern gun
* Not much aftermarket
* Terrible resale - essentially disposable.
* Nothing to get excited about.
* Accuracy? Reliability? Parts support?
* Pride of ownership? Nah.

For 2-4 times that on the new market (and less at used prices), you get:
* Gorgeous and well thought out styling and ergos
* Simple disassembly
* Total reliability and great accuracy
* Great aftermarket
* Pride of ownership
or for the same price as a hi point you get a star BM.. same caliber, same barrel length, same capacity, with the ergos and styling of a 1911, great trigger, and great reliability
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:26 PM
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or for the same price as a hi point you get a star BM.. same caliber, same barrel length, same capacity, with the ergos and styling of a 1911, great trigger, and great reliability
This again?
Again you are suggesting someone go buy an out of production handgun with little to zero aftermarket support and zero factory support.

You really think the guys buying HiPoints are professional grade gunsmiths like you are and will be manufacturing spare parts for their outdated Star?

C'mon...
For the $200 or a little over (the cost of a Star BM on todays open market) one can find a used current production handgun.
Just because you like to carry Maks and Stars doesn't mean it's a good idea for anyone else, it's actually probably not a good idea for anyone in todays market.
Used M&P's in .40 can be had for $225 and I got an email from someone the other day closing out Remington 1911's for under $400 new...
New Walther Creeds for $250 at CDNN.
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Just like everything else in the world, when you post about anything in a forum, you're gonna get opinions. And a lot of people have a low opinion of the Hi-Point, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

I don't like Glocks, and love Rugers. Just sharing that can throw a thread into a tizzy.

I don't like this whole "yeet" or "yee-yee" thing either, but I'm becoming a little more curmudgeony as the days go by.

At least it's not a Taurus . . .
The Yeet thing is just as idiotic as the "rock out with your Glock out" phrase that I'm glad to see has pretty much died.
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A High Point? Really? In 2019? Not. A. Chance. It's the ugliest gun I've ever seen in the modern era. It's like they purposefully made the hardest gun to disassemble and the ugliest gun imaginable.

I bought a near new Glock last week for $325. I've seen Glocks, Kahrs, Sigs, HKs, FNs, SWs, Rugers, and other top tier guns in the $300-400 range.

Ally?
2nd and 3rd gen Smith semi's and Ruger P series <$250
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2nd and 3rd gen Smith semi's and Ruger P series <$250
I like the Ruger American pistol. I wonder if I could get YEET Cannon engraved for $25 or so. I could swing that.
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I like the Ruger American pistol. I wonder if I could get YEET Cannon engraved for $25 or so. I could swing that.
Nightvisionary knows where you can get it done for $20. PM him.
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This again?
Again you are suggesting someone go buy an out of production handgun with little to zero aftermarket support and zero factory support.

You really think the guys buying HiPoints are professional grade gunsmiths like you are and will be manufacturing spare parts for their outdated Star?

C'mon...
For the $200 or a little over (the cost of a Star BM on todays open market) one can find a used current production handgun.
Just because you like to carry Maks and Stars doesn't mean it's a good idea for anyone else, it's actually probably not a good idea for anyone in todays market.
Used M&P's in .40 can be had for $225 and I got an email from someone the other day closing out Remington 1911's for under $400 new...
New Walther Creeds for $250 at CDNN.
over a hi point? hell yeah
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What the hell's a yeet?
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a cross between a yam and a beet maybe?
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What the hell's a yeet?
Something little kids scream as they are outside irritating their neighbors.
And it seems it’s also something little kids find amusing when they “grow up”.
Something “adults” with a 12 year olds mentality finds funny, supposedly has something to do with a dance or some **** I never cared enough to look up.

In a nutshell, it’s simply an immature saying that in a couple weeks will be forgotten and laughed at like all the rubes with those big Git R Done stickers on the windshields on their rustbucket pickups.
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Old 06-25-2019, 04:03 AM
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over a hi point? hell yeah
A least the LoPointe has a warranty...
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That poor accuracy sounds like the shooter not the gun. My buddy JB welded a burris fastfire red dot onto his hi point 9mm and that thing will shoot silver dollar sized groups at 25 yds with Tula 9mm ammo all day long. Once you master the trigger its a lazer beam
If you are talking about a pistol, I'll call BS on that all day long. A silver dollar is 1.5 inches across. Even the best match-grade 1911's that can reliably shoot a group that size at 25 yds are extremely rare, and they aren't doing it with Tula ammo. The X-ring on a B8 target is 1.695 inches across...about 0.2 inches larger than a silver dollar. The number of human beings alive that can reliably shoot 100 10x at 25 yds, with a handgun, is miniscule. NONE of them are doing it with a HiPoint, and NONE of them are doing it with Tula ammo.


Considering that I regularly shoot 1 inch pasters at 10 yds, with a stock Glock, and many of the shooters in the class were doing the same, I can assure you it wasn't the shooters.
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A least the LoPointe has a warranty...
it'll need it when the materials begin to break down, give me steel without a warranty over pot metal with it any day
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Old 06-25-2019, 12:13 PM
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I can tell you didnt watch the video cause YEET cannon Gen 2 gun solves most of those issues. Besides not everyone can be wealthy and afford those high dollar guns you are talking about. Many of us are saddled with student debt so the YEET cannon is the right gun at the right time for young millenials
I can assure you that I'm not wealthy, nor a brand snob, and I love some cheap guns, and lower priced optics.

But some junk is best left on the shelf. And there is a ton of stuff out there now that is really affordable and not total crap. Just about all the manufacturers make an "entry level" gun. Probably going to have plastic sights, a horrible trigger, look like it was pried from a mis-matched play dough mould from E-bay. But most of them are likely to be reliable, and built OK.

But I wouldn't touch a Hi Point, Kel-Tec, Seacamp, or Charter Arms. Or Savage Axis (mainly too much work to make it "nice"). Or the now Henry produced AR-7 survival rifle, because it's not made to last.

I'd take a look at the S&W M&P 1st gen if you can live with the not as good as the 2nd gen trigger. Or maybe a Ruger SR9. I think there's a less expensive "American" or something now. As well as S&W SD9VE which is a pretty cheap gun.

And the Turkish guns are an outstanding value also. At least some of them. You can pick up a Sarsilmaz with nitrided (?) slide, stainless barrel, highly polished feed ramp, and all around nicely made for probably $50 more than the Kel-Tec.

Also there are used and surplus. Like old Rossi revolvers, or a surplus Tokarev TT-33. Built like a tank, triggers probably like steering one, and crude sights, but built to last. Available cheap, and fits in most 1911 holsters.
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Old 06-25-2019, 12:21 PM
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2nd and 3rd gen Smith semi's and Ruger P series <$250
Good call on the P series. Ruger will perform the firing pin recall free of charge on the older P85 if it wasn't done.

I had a P89 (I think it was the 89) DC in stainless. It was big, but a nice gun. Very well built. Mine was pretty slick; I could inertia rack the slide under a decocked hammer with mine.
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A least the LoPointe has a warranty...
It's literally the only gun you can use as a boat anchor for a while, send it in to the manufacturer, and get a new one back with an extra magazine.
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It's literally the only gun you can use as a boat anchor for a while, send it in to the manufacturer, and get a new one back with an extra magazine.
Is that because they come in looking like regular factory defects?
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While I really like my Hi-Point carbine, I don't like the pistol which I bought after seeing how great the carbine was. The problem with the pistol isn't that it isn't reliable or even reasonably accurate, just bulky & unbalanced. Is it ugly? Sure, but unlike all the people on here who seem to be worried about how their gun looks vs. how it performs, I prefer function over form. The Glock is ugly as hell, but I've come to love them, even if I still think they are ugly. When the 1911's came out many old timers thought they were ugly too. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as the saying goes. Does the Hi-Point work? Yes & better than at least 1/2 the more expensive guns on the market. While I might be tempted to get another carbine, I'll stick to Glock for my go to SHTF gun, not because the Hi-Point isn't reliable or accurate but mainly due to bulk & lack of capacity.

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They made it lighter so when it breaks and you have to throw it at the bad guy you get better distance
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