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Old 11-01-2019, 02:33 PM
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As previously stated, less and less public land. Rich man's sport indeed, in the future all pheasant hunting will probably be on privately paid estates. Deer and Elk are heading that way. Wouldn't surprise me if they tried making Trout fishing expensive and exclusive like in Great Britain but then the states would have to hire more fish and game wardens and thats the last thing states want because they would rather sink that money into BS programs.
The Libs would rather have marijuana grows and desert tortoise/Kangaroo rat preserves then to expand hunting opportunities and install/maintain Guzzlers for animals in wilderness areas....
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Old 11-01-2019, 03:17 PM
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As previously stated, less and less public land. Rich man's sport indeed, in the future all pheasant hunting will probably be on privately paid estates. Deer and Elk are heading that way.
Not in CO. Plenty of public land to hunt. Too many hunters.
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Most everyone I know around here hunts, even the teenagers are all hunting. I won't guarantee how many of them all have hunting licenses though.....

I have seen at least a dozen of my kids HS friends post pics of their deer on FB in the last few days. Considering there are a whole 60 to 65 students total in the entire HS I would say that there is a pretty good percentage of them out hunting pretty regularly.

Myself I haven't hunted in a few years, I found it far cheaper and easier to simply buy livestock at the livestock sale and slaughter that. I trade some it off to my brother in laws and uncles etc for deer meat, elk meat, moose meat, bear meat and to my wife's mom and her boyfriend for smoked Alaskan salmon. I still get all the wild game I want without having to spend the time and money on permits, licenses and the traveling around to hunt.
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Myself I haven't hunted in a few years, I found it far cheaper and easier to simply buy livestock at the livestock sale and slaughter that. I trade some it off to my brother in laws and uncles etc for deer meat, elk meat, moose meat, bear meat and to my wife's mom and her boyfriend for smoked Alaskan salmon. I still get all the wild game I want without having to spend the time and money on permits, licenses and the traveling around to hunt.

I enjoying hunting.... backpacking in... tent camping the whole ordeal...

But... this is a smart maneuver!!!
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Im not a hunter, but of all the people Ive know who hunts still does, grandpa being the exception.

A lot of people I talk with still enjoy getting a buck every fall.
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Old 11-02-2019, 08:33 AM
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My father took me pheasant hunting when I was 5. Squirrel hunting at 10, deer hunting at 12. I was hooked.

My two kids helped butcher our chickens before they were teens, boy and girl. Took daughter rabbit hunting, boy took up bow in their pre-teens.

Enter the IPhone, which pretty much destroyed any outdoor enthusiasm they may have had.
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Eastern KY here and its declining in my area. Some diehard holdouts tho, friends and neighbors, and the few who depend on it for meat throughout the year. Fishing is dying as the places to do it are too polluted (more garbage than mine contamination) and not replenished
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I struggle to find a good spot close to home. A lot of the nearby farmers rent to middle age guys/retirees coming down from the city. At the convenient spots near my home, I see their trucks twice a year; once during the rut (archery) and a few weeks later for gun season. No early/late season deer hunting, squirrel hunting and no rabbit hunting. Sometimes, I do hope it declines to make it more accessible but I know that is a selfish reason.
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It's an annual thing that I turn off the porch light and I take the wife out on a dinner date on Halloween. I suppose we are getting more.... anti-social, wanting people to stay away from our house and property, even on Halloween.... even with cute kids. Stay away!

Anyway, we drive into town and get a booth, window seat at a restaurant that is next too a big box hunting store. I see 'Soccer Moms' coming and going from the store, probably buying some wool socks or something. I make the comment to the wife... I bet 90% of the folks walking in that store have never pulled the trigger on a hunt.

...... and it caused me to do some research....


In the 80’s, right at 18 million hunting licenses sold nationwide. In 2016, only 11.5M. It’s estimated that there will be less than 10M in 2020. Hunting is a dying sport in America.

Interestingly though.... Fishing license sales nation-wide have increased every year for the past 30 years.

I don't have any awe-inspiring wisdom to share.... just an observation about the direction of our society. I am certain that a HUGE percentage on SB are well equipped with hunting wisdom, skills and experience, but 10 million hunters are.... wait for it......

3% of our national population!

Seems nearly everyone is completely happy with a proxy-killing from their local grocery store.


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I read somewhere that less than 1% of Americans do the fighting for this country......so the 3% thing does not surprise.

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Here in california I see a lot of reasons for hunting tapering off. A massive upswing in rural population. Public land being bought up by liberal environmentalists. Anti gunners. Large rural properties being developed into housing. Large groups of illegals taking advantage of the sanctuary state bs and blatantly poaching without repercussions. Fires.
A lot of guys I used to hunt with have quit hunting due to these and other reasons.
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20-30 yrs ago it was a passion, now I hardly go. No need, and the fun has been gone from it for awhile. I enjoy the pursuit sometimes but without the kill.
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:55 AM
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Definitely a decline where I live. Instead of blaming some kind of socialist indoctrination, what I see is that the population is getting older and a whole lot fatter. Probably ninety percent of the adults I see couldn't climb into a tree stand. Most of the kids are little porkers who don't look like they'd want to get up early and carry a shotgun around.
Maybe more people are fishing, but I don't see it. The people I see camping around the local lakes and rivers mainly seem to be interested in eating, drinking, and maybe smoking a little meth every now and then.
I guess if I had the choice of either running into more people in the woods or running into less, I'd prefer less.
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:31 AM
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You are not far from the true there has been a decline hunting was not just sport but a way of bonding father to son and good memories created but now now the internet and tV generally urbanization will gradually reduce hunting and maybe shooting some day
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Old 11-21-2019, 04:30 AM
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Definitely a decline where I live. Instead of blaming some kind of socialist indoctrination, what I see is that the population is getting older and a whole lot fatter. Probably ninety percent of the adults I see couldn't climb into a tree stand. Most of the kids are little porkers who don't look like they'd want to get up early and carry a shotgun around.
Maybe more people are fishing, but I don't see it. The people I see camping around the local lakes and rivers mainly seem to be interested in eating, drinking, and maybe smoking a little meth every now and then.
I guess if I had the choice of either running into more people in the woods or running into less, I'd prefer less.
Kind of bizarre youd type something like that...theyre smoking a little weed maybe, but meth? Come on gramps!
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I think this may be over blown. First off demographics are part of this for sure. Gen X was smaller than the Next generation or the previous. So men in their late 30s and 40s who have money to hunt are not as numerous as they where or will be.

Second moving to cities decreases hunters sure. But it also may decrease licenses for those who hunt

For example maybe you don’t get to take that hunting trip every year. Maybe you don’t get a license every year. If the same number hunted but only every other year the number of licenses would be cut in half for the same number of hunters. The number of hunters can increase and then number of licenses go down if people aren’t hunting every year and license prices increase to make you not buy one just in case. Also people may be keeping fewer out of state and temporary licenses.


I’ve read that hipsters are starting to get into hunting. Killing your own meat is considered a hipster and healthy thing to do. And some of the anti factory farming crowd has embraced hunting too.
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It's an annual thing that I turn off the porch light and I take the wife out on a dinner date on Halloween. I suppose we are getting more.... anti-social, wanting people to stay away from our house and property, even on Halloween.... even with cute kids. Stay away!

Anyway, we drive into town and get a booth, window seat at a restaurant that is next too a big box hunting store. I see 'Soccer Moms' coming and going from the store, probably buying some wool socks or something. I make the comment to the wife... I bet 90% of the folks walking in that store have never pulled the trigger on a hunt.

...... and it caused me to do some research....


In the 80s, right at 18 million hunting licenses sold nationwide. In 2016, only 11.5M. Its estimated that there will be less than 10M in 2020. Hunting is a dying sport in America.

Interestingly though.... Fishing license sales nation-wide have increased every year for the past 30 years.

I don't have any awe-inspiring wisdom to share.... just an observation about the direction of our society. I am certain that a HUGE percentage on SB are well equipped with hunting wisdom, skills and experience, but 10 million hunters are.... wait for it......

3% of our national population!

Seems nearly everyone is completely happy with a proxy-killing from their local grocery store.


.......

Where are you getting your info. License sales are at an all time high:

"The number of hunters stayed pretty flat for the past decade, but recently began to increase. The USFWS reported 15.1 million licensed hunters in 2006. After falling to a low of 14.45 million in 2009 and 2010, the number of licensed hunters has topped 15 million for each of the past three years."

Source: https://business.realtree.com/busine...-positive-news
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Old 11-21-2019, 10:26 AM
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I don’t have the numbers but I would have thought it was growing with so many companies, guides, resorts, and outlets catering to it.
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sports go in cycles. Golf, cycling, rollerblading, skiing. They had a heyday, then a fall off and then resurgence.
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More people shoot than hunt. Most people that shoot would like to hunt if it was convent. If I was not responsible for being both father and grandfather for 4 of my 5 grandchildren I would be a hunter. We take care of our own. We do not need the state. Life is life.
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Old 11-21-2019, 03:01 PM
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I thought licenses were dictated by population. There was a hoof disease recently that drastically reduced the number of deer so they reduced the number of licenses.

Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) has been spreading here. Deer numbers were down 10% last year from 2017.

In 2012 there was a big decrease of 30% due to disease outbreak and the state dropped deer permits by 13%.

When car/deer accidents rise, they know the population has rebounded and they raise the permits and make them Doe or Buck.
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