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Why Orthodox iconography typically does not show God the father. Scripture teaches that no one has seen the Father, and there is no way to fully capture the glory of the immaterial God in physical things. The other reason is to protect the doctrine of the incarnation. On the other hand, Christ can be depicted.
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Why Orthodox iconography typically does not show God the father. Scripture teaches that no one has seen the Father, and there is no way to fully capture the glory of the immaterial God in physical things. The other reason is to protect the doctrine of the incarnation. On the other hand, Christ can be depicted.
I do not have any icons depicting God the Father. Nor would I accept one. I saw one that just shows a human eye in a triangle to symbolize the All-Knowing attribute of God the Father not that the Father has human eyes. But even that one is a bit too much for me. It seems off somehow... although I would love to see God. But I don't think any depiction of God the Father will be correct from an Orthodox theological point.

The Holy Spirit is different. He was seen in the form of a dove:

"And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him" Mark 1:10

So the Holy Spirit is sometimes depicted as a white dove in certain icons. I do not consider this especially wrong. I do not have an opinion yet on how Orthodox is that yet.

Then again God appeared as a bush on fire or some kind of fiery cloud so the question if the Holy Spirit should be depicted as a dove is still open. Some will say no some will say yes. Lot to discuss on this I guess.

Then again we have the scene with Abraham and the Trinity, depicted so masterful by Andrei Rublev. His icons are so piercing in the depths of our souls. Was he wrong to depict the Holy Trinity?

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I have been taught that worship is obedience on a personal level via the tutelage of the Holy Spirit Jesus provides.
Academics are/can be, a distraction.
Men have through the centuries based their "belief in recordings"and documentation.
While this has merit it is not the same as the relationship God intended.
Honest unity comes form being under the same influence , an influence that knows you inside and out. The Holy Spirit.
God knows how I think, and teaches me in unique ways I understand.
On an eternal basis rituals do not accomplish obedience.
Noble deeds men establish appeal to the flesh, but do not serve God in the long run.
Matthew 7;22,23, though I know and can use the power of Jesus name to perform miracles , doing so with out His instruction is in essence rebellion, no matter how noble it appears.
Calling Jesus Lord, when in fact you do not obey Him real time, is in fact, a lie He has no obligation to over look. All liars are consigned to hell .(Revelation) along with false teachers false prophets and those that fallow them.
The Holy Spirit is our assigned teacher. Jesus specifically said so.
The Gospel is making this known.
Before Jesus provision, accountability was held on a corporate level , but post Jesus and the provision of the Holy Spirit to the individual , we are held responsible at a personal level.
Pastors fail because they do not listen to the Holy Spirit but to the dictates of their religion.
They direct men to them self rather than to the tutelage of the Holy Spirit.
For this they will be judged.
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I have been taught that worship is obedience on a personal level via the tutelage of the Holy Spirit Jesus provides.
Academics are/can be, a distraction.
Men have through the centuries based their "belief in recordings"and documentation.
While this has merit it is not the same as the relationship God intended.
Honest unity comes form being under the same influence , an influence that knows you inside and out. The Holy Spirit.
God knows how I think, and teaches me in unique ways I understand.
On an eternal basis rituals do not accomplish obedience.
Noble deeds men establish appeal to the flesh, but do not serve God in the long run.
Matthew 7;22,23, though I know and can use the power of Jesus name to perform miracles , doing so with out His instruction is in essence rebellion, no matter how noble it appears.
Calling Jesus Lord, when in fact you do not obey Him real time, is in fact, a lie He has no obligation to over look. All liars are consigned to hell .(Revelation) along with false teachers false prophets and those that fallow them.
The Holy Spirit is our assigned teacher. Jesus specifically said so.
The Gospel is making this known.
Before Jesus provision, accountability was held on a corporate level , but post Jesus and the provision of the Holy Spirit to the individual , we are held responsible at a personal level.
Pastors fail because they do not listen to the Holy Spirit but to the dictates of their religion.
They direct men to them self rather than to the tutelage of the Holy Spirit.
For this they will be judged.
Did the Holy Spirit come to you and tell you of the Gospel message?
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Calling Jesus Lord, when in fact you do not obey Him real time, is in fact, a lie He has no obligation to over look. All liars are consigned to hell (Revelation) along with false teachers false prophets and those that fallow them.
Are you not a liar? Do you know personally any man that is not a liar?

Did you ever hear of a person (besides Jesus Christ) in the entire history (accessible to you until now) that you can consider not a liar or that has NEVER lied?

Do you not know that for God even Heaven dwellers are not pure?

"If God places no trust in his holy ones, if even the heavens are not pure in his eyes," Job 15:15

How you will escape Hell? Please detail to us your plan to escape Hell.
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I do not have any icons depicting God the Father. Nor would I accept one. I saw one that just shows a human eye in a triangle to symbolize the All-Knowing attribute of God the Father not that the Father has human eyes. But even that one is a bit too much for me. It seems off somehow... although I would love to see God. But I don't think any depiction of God the Father will be correct from an Orthodox theological point.

The Holy Spirit is different. He was seen in the form of a dove:

"And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him" Mark 1:10

So the Holy Spirit is sometimes depicted as a white dove in certain icons. I do not consider this especially wrong. I do not have an opinion yet on how Orthodox is that yet.

Then again God appeared as a bush on fire or some kind of fiery cloud so the question if the Holy Spirit should be depicted as a dove is still open. Some will say no some will say yes. Lot to discuss on this I guess.

Then again we have the scene with Abraham and the Trinity, depicted so masterful by Andrei Rublev. His icons are so piercing in the depths of our souls. Was he wrong to depict the Holy Trinity?

Andrei Rublev (1966) - dir. Andrei Tarkovsky - ending - YouTube
Hard to say....above my pay grade to be sure.
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On an eternal basis rituals do not accomplish obedience
On a temporal basis, rituals and spiritual discipline accomplish obedience, bearing the fruit that is the evidence of a living faith. This is one of the great failings of modern Christianity...sending people home without the tools to live victorious lives Sunday through Sunday.
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