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I think it’s not as bad as the early 70s when we had 2500 bpm bongs domestically. Today every twitch is felt nationwide because of mass media.
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As bizarre as it is, I used a HuffPost article, but, they did an uncharacteristic ally good job.
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I agree that the country is fragmenting and degenerating into chaos. The three branches of government have all failed and now they are enacting or working to enact laws that directly violate the Constitution.

About the only hope, I think there is for this to stop or possibly reverse is an external threat or crisis great enough to unite everyone. 9/11 did that...but only for about a year or so really...it wasn't large enough. Some truly big disaster or a war with a powerful enemy or WW 3 would do the trick though. It will be interesting to see how things progress. I sure hope I'm wrong as well, but things really seem to be falling apart.
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It has been said we are a nation united. I disagree. We were but now are no longer united. The issues are too irrational and too profound to be settled by compromise. They can only be settled in one of two ways. Peacefully separation or with another civil war. If we choose separation then perhaps over time, with reflection, patience and diplomacy there could be a reunion. If separation wonít work, then we face a civil war or another revolution.


Problem is the left are advocating and working towards suicide. Look at simply one agenda, say... immigration.
The left believe in no borders, let everyone in. Even people who have no desire to assimilate or follow/uphold American laws. If we split, the right would maintain and likely prosper. The left would rapidly be overrun by outside entities who used their mis guided utopian dream to gain entrance and then rape and pillage from within.
In short order they would come to realize the error they have made there would be no stopping it. Their only recourse would be to flee and try and appeal to the good nature and protection possessed by the right. If the right were coldly logical they would bar the gates and leave them to perish in a bed of their own making. But that is ever the flaw of the right, willingness to help (even the enemy) provided they do so at their own desire. Forced assistance is a facet of the left. And since the left feel so adamant about the evils of firearms , that end will be unavailable.
Sadly, since the left are so allergic to personal responsibility, they will continue to blame everything else but themselves as the glimmer fades from their eyes.
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Neither side care about you and exploit you for what all this is. A distraction to keep them in power and you fighting for scraps.

The war is fractured because nobody can agree on anything. Hell the second amendment is clearly written and yet 8 out 10 here will tell you what guns you dont need access to

Immigration is workers for one and votes for the other. So they want to act like they care but dont.
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Neither side care about you and exploit you for what all this is. A distraction to keep them in power and you fighting for scraps.

The war is fractured because nobody can agree on anything. Hell the second amendment is clearly written and yet 8 out 10 here will tell you what guns you dont need access to

Immigration is workers for one and votes for the other. So they want to act like they care but dont.


If you speak of the power brokers (so called leaders?) of each side, you're correct.
But I'd suggest that the people as a whole have mostly left or right ideals. Beliefs. Opinions. Etc. For the masses there is not going to be an ability to "coexist" (vomit word) for much longer. Some on both sides are swallowing the hype completely. Some simply grow fed up with inaction or change they won't cotton to.
There are a multitude of facets to it all so no clear answer or label truly applies. Left/right seems a reasonable compromise if one is to be used. But the rifts span multiple areas across a broad spectrum.
Race. Sex/ Gender. Financial. Religion. Etc.
There will be muddy water beliefs but should true violence erupt, people will be forced to make decisions based on a simplified set of ideals.
Unfortunately, color is the easiest to identify and aspects of a "race war" will bear innocent or mistaken casualties across the board. I have no doubt that should this occur, many who could/would be idealogically be allies or a beneficial asset will be destroyed simply because the color of their skin. From there it perhaps becomes as simple as threat/no threat, need vs desire, visibility vs consealment, and generosity vs desperation.
Nobody wins in it all as even tptb eventually forfeit the reigns of power.
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Interesting "racial" twist to this story...

El Paso residents crowd gun range after mass shooting, majority Latino https://www.oann.com/el-paso-residen...jority-latino/
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If you speak of the power brokers (so called leaders?) of each side, you're correct.
But I'd suggest that the people as a whole have mostly left or right ideals. Beliefs. Opinions. Etc. For the masses there is not going to be an ability to "coexist" (vomit word) for much longer. Some on both sides are swallowing the hype completely. Some simply grow fed up with inaction or change they won't cotton to.
There are a multitude of facets to it all so no clear answer or label truly applies. Left/right seems a reasonable compromise if one is to be used. But the rifts span multiple areas across a broad spectrum.
Race. Sex/ Gender. Financial. Religion. Etc.
There will be muddy water beliefs but should true violence erupt, people will be forced to make decisions based on a simplified set of ideals.
Unfortunately, color is the easiest to identify and aspects of a "race war" will bear innocent or mistaken casualties across the board. I have no doubt that should this occur, many who could/would be idealogically be allies or a beneficial asset will be destroyed simply because the color of their skin. From there it perhaps becomes as simple as threat/no threat, need vs desire, visibility vs consealment, and generosity vs desperation.
Nobody wins in it all as even tptb eventually forfeit the reigns of power.
Great reply and thanks I agree
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Problem is the left are advocating and working towards suicide. Look at simply one agenda, say... immigration.
The left believe in no borders, let everyone in. Even people who have no desire to assimilate or follow/uphold American laws. If we split, the right would maintain and likely prosper. The left would rapidly be overrun by outside entities who used their mis guided utopian dream to gain entrance and then rape and pillage from within.
In short order they would come to realize the error they have made there would be no stopping it. Their only recourse would be to flee and try and appeal to the good nature and protection possessed by the right. If the right were coldly logical they would bar the gates and leave them to perish in a bed of their own making. But that is ever the flaw of the right, willingness to help (even the enemy) provided they do so at their own desire. Forced assistance is a facet of the left. And since the left feel so adamant about the evils of firearms , that end will be unavailable.
Sadly, since the left are so allergic to personal responsibility, they will continue to blame everything else but themselves as the glimmer fades from their eyes.


Times are really bad unless you are over 70. Then you've see concerns like this in the past.
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It has been said we are a nation united. I disagree. We were but now are no longer united. The issues are too irrational and too profound to be settled by compromise. They can only be settled in one of two ways. Peacefully separation or with another civil war. If we choose separation then perhaps over time, with reflection, patience and diplomacy there could be a reunion. If separation wonít work, then we face a civil war or another revolution.
These are some of the issues that divide us if not healed or.
The left embraces infanticide. The right is anti-********.
The left wants to repeal the Second Amendment. The right embraces the right in its entirety.
The left has embraced the alphabet people agenda. The right finds it repulsive and disgusting.
The left demands open borders. The right respects the sovereignty of our country and want to protect it.
The left has a huge contingent that despises the country, our history, our ethics and our morals. The right respects our history, all of our history, and see the left destroying our moral compass, our religions and our nation.
The left wants to eliminate our law enforcement agencies. The right knows they are needed and fully support them.
The left wants unlimited, undocumented, unrestricted immigration of everyone. The right wants the immigration laws to be followed.
The left is constantly attacking free speech by calling all speech they don't like hate speech. The right knows the First Amendment covers all speech including speech you don't like.
The left wants to destroy Christianity and replace it with Secular Humanism
The left wants to replace what is left of democracy with it total socialism. The right respects our Republic and the Constitution.
The left cannot win elections without using dirty tricks. The right wins on merit.
The left wants a dictatorship that controls every aspect of every citizenís life. Where to work, what to live in, what to use for transportation, what to eat, where to get medical service and even what to say or think. The right expects everyone to be independent, to earn and work and make it on their own.
The left wants to expand the government's cradle to grave entitlement programs to everyone. The right wants to reduce everyone's dependencies on government.
So yes the country is divided and the division grows. The left is intransigent and will not ever compromise or work with the right. Nothing demonstrates this more than their current hatred of our president and their efforts to destroy his administration and his attempts to make America better.
Now the question you should ask yourself is what will happen to our country if this division continues to grow.
Thats what the Elitist, Socialists, Liberlcrats, and Deep state ******* want us to Believe.
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Take the Red pill or the Blue pill..
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The .5% thats the elitist and even deep state, they want a Division for whatever reason they care not to share. The rest of the political spectrum toe there line and in some parts it works. Chicago is liberal socialist, Detroit too and L.A. see what condition there in. The Republican sectors do better, hence a divide of ideology and governance theories and thereof hate blooms between the two. Turned one against the other. As a Smart man once said divided we fail but united we succeed. So maybe the .5% & the Deep state, the elitist dont want a successful united U.S. but a failed nation! Maybe they are Anarchists and Baal /Satan Worshippers (sacrificing our unborn and infants). Ive heard said the most dangerous person is the who would be happiest standing watching the world burn, enjoying the destruction, death, and the dancing flames. I like fire, but i seen and been close to a Forest fire and didnt like it...
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A look into the future being pumped by the Left.
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It`s just TIME Folks to pick your side as we roll into 2020. Antifa and BLM will be more active as the months roll down to the Election Day,Mass Shootings will be more predominate and Everything will be Blamed on the Right Conservatives by way of "False Flag" incidents. Gun Control AND so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" are a Huge Agenda for them,They Must be Defeated or We The People just may Lose this Republic!. And it will Never come back again. Vote AND Prepare!.
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I feel that it could happen before the 2020 elections. There are issues with the stock markets and everyone is blaming gun for everything


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A look into the future being pumped by the Left.
It's worked everywhere else - why not here? Oh, right. The USA has a fundamental RKBA. And this is why.
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Any opinions on the National African American Gun Association that has increased their membership from last year's 9000 to this year's 18000. It seems they are arming and training against racism.

And the Liberal Gun Club of America. Today I watched a spokesman say, "I voted for Hilary and I am for the Second Amendment, plus I am a firearms instructor."
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Any opinions on the National African American Gun Association that has increased their membership from last year's 9000 to this year's 18000. It seems they are arming and training against racism and Donald Trump.

And the Liberal Gun Club of America. Today I watched a spokeswoman say, "I voted for Hilary and I am for the Second Amendment, plus I am a firearms instructor."

I also found out about The Shooter's Restaurant in Rifle Colorado, where nearly all waitresses are carrying. Impressive. Owner gets hate mail from good Christians but might start a franchise.

While reading about the Three Percenters, I came across The Redneck Revolt and the LGBT Gun Club. You can Google all these and find out more. Could be a very interesting Civil war!
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I also found out about The Shooter's Restaurant in Rifle Colorado, where nearly all waitresses are carrying. Impressive. Owner gets hate mail from good Christians but might start a franchise.



While reading about the Three Percenters, I came across The Redneck Revolt and the LGBT Gun Club. You can Google all these and find out more. Could be a very interesting Civil war!


When rainbow sherbet doesn't get along with itself, it's interesting for sure.
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Times are really bad unless you are over 70. Then you've see concerns like this in the past.
Yes.
Live long enough and you get to see everything happen more than once. No matter how dark things might look at any given moment...

...good Americans will prevail over evil leftists.
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Only way I can see to be this blind and/or ignorant is intentionally hoping for a civil war...

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Only way I can see to be this blind and/or ignorant is intentionally hoping for a civil war...

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Disgraceful.

That "decorated marine veteran" should be slapped.

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