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Old 08-18-2019, 07:19 PM
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im about to purchase a revolver but need to know which ammo is more common in American Households .357 magnum or .44 magnum ammo, thank you
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:49 PM
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357 magnum
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Old 08-19-2019, 02:33 PM
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.357, and its cousins .38 Special, etc. Many people cannot handle the .44 Mag, while .357 Mags have been routinely issued by police depts. in the past.

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Get a .357 revolver, it can also fire .38 Special. There are some very good .38 Special +P personal defense loads now available. Reposting this older article which contains helpful info:

Which Is Best As The One And Only Handgun for Non-Hobbyist?
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(This article dates from 1993, but the essentials haven’t changed very much.)

The Versatile .38 Special (and .357)

Casual shooters, who are NOT handgun enthusiasts, frequently ask what ONE handgun they should buy for home defense and sport. They would never use a handgun for big game hunting, but would carry it on fishing, camping or hunting trips, use it for informal target shooting, and depend on it, if ever needed, for home defense. They don't want a gun "collection," but only ONE handgun to serve multiple needs in a family where shooting is not a hobby activity.

The requirements are safety, reliability, durability, accuracy, and modest cost of gun and ammunition. Also important is suitability for use by the "female significant other." These parameters haven't changed since Smith & Wesson first introduced its famed Military and Police Model in 1903. Julian S. Hatcher said, in the Textbook of Pistols and Revolvers (1935), "Were it necessary for the average shooter to own and use but one revolver, it should be a .38 Special."

This is still true today, but a better choice for many people is a sturdy .357 because it can also use .38 Special loads and is more durable for frequent use of +P service loads or "adventurous" hand load. The late Elmer Keith, who favored large guns and powerful loads, said in his book Sixguns (1955), of the .38 Special, when loaded with the semi-wadcutter bullet he made famous, as "the best to be had for hunting small game with the sixgun," high praise indeed from Keith.

A .38 Special still makes sense, because, modern ammunuition options make it better than ever. Sound, used .38 Special revolvers are still reasonably priced compared to modern combat autopistols. Ammunition is still common, is produced in enough volume that it remains relatively inexpensive and it available everywhere.

The .38 Special is the most accurate revolver cartridge ever developed. Ten-shot groups fired from industrial test barrels or 5-shot ones from quality target revolvers are frequently 1-1/2" or less at 50 yards. Good brand-name service-grade revolvers from Colt, S&W and Ruger produce will groups of this order at 25 yards.

Factory .38 Special loads available today provide greater variety than for any other handgun cartridge. Hand loading provides even more flexibility for those who do. The .38 Special is generally deemed the minimum revolver cartridge suitable for personal protection.

While a .38 Special or .357 revolver is no longer the duty gun of choice for police or military use, it enjoys great popularity in states where civilian concealed carry is permitted. While it is true that small, pocket revolvers are now available chambered for the .357 Magnum, using .38 Special ammunition in small concealable revolvers which weigh less than 20 ozs. makes more sense for a variety of reasons.

While a .22 rim-fire is most often chosen as the outdoorsman's kit gun, the owner of “one handgun” can use the .38 Special for this purpose, and will find it more effective than a rimfire. When outdoor trips are short, few rounds are needed. In snake country I carry a Speer shotload first-up, with the rest of the rounds in the cylinder being +P semi-wadcutter hollowpoints, such as the Winchester X39SPD, or the Remington R38S12, aka "The FBI load." Three Bianchi speed strips fit into into an A.G. Russell "Blackberrry" belt pouch, tabs up, without looking like an ammo pouch, printing any "speedloader bulge" or rattling on your belt, in your coat pocket or day pack. For longer trips or if I plan any casual plinking, I'll pack an extra box or two of wadcutters.

The non-enthusiast seeking "one handgun" should select a steel-frame, “police-service-type,” double-action .38 Special with either a 3" or 4" barrel. A .357 Magnum revolver of these general specifications comes highly recommended, because a .357 can use any .38 Special ammunition. Revolvers designed for magnum ammunition are more durably constructed, and won’t loosen up with frequent use of .38 Special +P loads. In states where concealed carry is legal a used 4” service revolver will usually be as much as $100 cheaper than a 2” or 3" snubbie of similar model and condition and a .38 Special as much as $50 cheaper than a similar .357 model.

For field use a gun having adjustable sights is a plus. A 4” barrel is easier to shoot accurately and can still be easily concealed in a properly designed holster. For most purposes you will want an inside-waistband type with reinforced opening which permits one-handed re-holstering such as El Paso Saddlery's C-Force.

“Snubbies” are most popular today as carry guns. But do not buy a snubby unless you are willing to practice with it A LOT. I often carry one myself, but they do lose some ballistic performance and are MUCH more difficult to learn to shoot well beyond 50 feet or so. While snubbies have advantages in the close-quarter backup role, they require frequent practice to maintain proficiency.

Remember that for our scenario here we are talking about ONE gun for the non-hobby shooter...

Wadcutters are ideal for most general use including field shooting and defense carry in 2-inch guns. They are accurate, give a good knockdown blow on small game, and don't destroy much meat.. They are the best choice for defense carry in "airweight" or alloy-frame guns which cannot handle +P ammunition. Novices should use wadcutters until able to six shots DA at ten yards into a 6 inch group reliably.

After developing some skill, it is OK experiment with heavier +P loads, in guns suitable for them, to become accustomed to their additional recoil. +P ammo is not for casual shooting, but for serious defense carry against two or four-legged varmints when more power is needed.

Modern .38 Special +P personal defense loads are fully adequate for personal defense. Good choices are the Speer 135-grain Gold Dot, Winchester 130-grain SXT, Winchester X38SPD, Federal 38G and Remington R38S12 158-gr. all-lead hollowpoints provide stopping power equal to .45 ACP hardball. These represent the upper limit of power and recoil the average non-hobby shooter can handle after a basic defense shooting course.

In light-alloy frames one of the best non+P loads is the Winchester 110-gr. Silvertip, which I have found which expands reliably from a 2" barrel. Recoil is mild, like shooting a wadcutter, so this load is easily managed by the female significant other who is recoil-shy. In steel frame guns the major-brand name, Federal, Winchester, Remington and Speer 125-135-grain +P "personal protection loads," such as Hydrashok, Silvertip, Golden Sabre, HST, HXP and Gold Dot excell.

Twenty years ago the used gun market was flooded with police turn-in .38 Specials in good condition for under $200. These days you must shop carefully to find a used revolver which isn’t a worn out gunsmithing and you can expect to pay $400 or more for a used S&W Model 10 and $450 or more for a used Ruger Six Series SP101. If you don’t know the mechanics of revolvers take someone with you to shop who is, otherwise you can easily invest more in parts and gunsmith time fixing up a used revolver than it is worth.

Simplify your ammunition supply. If you have a light alloy frame gun use mid-range target wadcutters for practice. In steel frame guns practice with cast lead flatnose "Cowboy" loads or semi-wadcutter field loads. For actual defense carry use only factory loaded +P all-lead hollowpoint or JHP "personal protection loads." You may also want to keep a few Speer shotshells around if you live in snake country. These loads really handle all uses for a .38 Special revolver. Competent use of .357 ammunition requires a higher level of training and expertise which generally departs from our "non-hobbyist" scenario.

The muzzle of a revolver should always be elevated when ejecting fired cases, so that any unburned powder particles fall out with the empties, rather than under the extractor, or between the crane and frame, which could tie up the gun. Smart revolver shooters always carry a toothbrush in their kit for cleaning residue out from under the extractor. If you haven't shot a revolver before, get a copy of Ed Lovett's book, The Snubby Revolver, or Grant Cunningham's Protect Yourself With Your Snubby Revolver.

If you don't currently own a handgun, but have been thinking about getting one, you can't go wrong with a sturdy 3" or 4" barrel .38 Special (or .357) S&W or Ruger.
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.357 is more common.

Ton of guns out there that shoot .38 special for conceal carry or just old guns from WWII time.

The 44 mag always sounds cool to people but I constantly see a 6 inch 44 mag revolver for sale with 40ish rounds of ammo from people realizing they did not like it for the cost of ammo/recoil.

Pretty certain I saw the same revolver for sale with the same box of ammo 3 times. Only difference the amount of ammo that came with it. 1st 45 rounds, 2nd 30ish round, and finally 10 rounds.
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I wouldn't say either are huge anymore, like they were in the 70's & 80's, but the 357 is more common here than the 44. Lots of people shoot 38special out of them though.
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I pretty sure Restaurants around here sell 357. It’s not on the menu but if you ask the waitress she will bring it to the table.
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Kind of curious about why that would be a factor.
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Kind of curious about why that would be a factor.
I was thinking the same thing. sounds like a raider/scavenger question.

the local gas station/restaurant does in fact, carry 357.
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Although personally, I prefer .44 as there is nothing it can do that .44 can't do better.
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im about to purchase a revolver but need to know which ammo is more common in American Households .357 magnum or .44 magnum ammo, thank you
JMO, The .357 Magnum because you can always shoot .38 Special in one. Lighter and easier to pack more ammo than a .44 Magnum/.44 Special.

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im about to purchase a revolver but need to know which ammo is more common in American Households .357 magnum or .44 magnum ammo, thank you
Umm neither i rather have 10mm but i suppose 357 would be more common
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Out of those two choices, .357 Mag is more common.
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Learn to reload your ammo, and cast your own bullets. You can then shoot 44 mag or 357 mag for about the same price; less than 20 cents a pop. Since you are loading your own you can tone down the 44 to be a big 22LR in terms of recoil and everything in between.
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Old 09-15-2019, 06:48 AM
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Don't understand why somebody would ask this question. If he intends to come to America and he wants to buy a gun that shoots the ammo that is the easiest to buy, here, then it would be neither the 357 or the .44 magnum. Probably something like 9mm.
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Question asked and answered
.357 Magnum
Common ammunition, and plentiful, even more so with .38 Special
Very useful
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Old 09-15-2019, 08:18 AM
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Perhaps we should quit pondering on his hidden meanings and just answer his direct question.
Twice a year shooters, 357. Weekly shooters, 44 mag.
Both are plentiful now and later. But it would also be wise to learn the limitations of both.
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