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Old 08-12-2019, 10:13 AM
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/12/dhs-approves-policy-deter-immigrants-use-welfare/

The Trump administration finalized a new “public charge” rule Monday to penalize immigrants’ use of welfare programs when deciding whether to grant them permanent status in the U.S.

It will likely have to survive court challenges, but if it remains in effect it could fundamentally alter the way migrants approach their use of U.S. public assistance programs, and the way U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services evaluates their applications....

Under the new rules, when someone files an application, the USCIS officer reviewing the case will look at the person’s history of access to public programs such as food stamps, many forms of Medicaid, public housing assistance, welfare cash payments and Supplemental Security Income.

Emergency medical care, the school lunch program, student loans, energy assistance, homeless shelter access and children’s health insurance will not count against a migrant, USCIS said.

Mr. Cuccinelli said taking a benefit won’t automatically disqualify someone, but rather it could be a “heavily weighted factor” factor the USCIS officer considers in making a decision about whether to grant the green card.


This move is needed and correct. It is not fair to U.S. taxpayers that foreigners who come to the United States (even if legally) are unable to pay their own bills. Charity is a virtue, but the state cannot afford charity for any and every foreigners who is unable, unwilling, or both, to pay his/her own bills.
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if it were up to me, i wouldnt allow access to public welfare programs until someone has been legally in the US for 5 years. you have five years to figure out how to take care of yourself and your family. if you cant do that, you dont belong in this country unless you have disability/illness issues that precludes you from working..maybe even 2 jobs.
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Maybe this will help deter some of these freeloaders that are planning on coming here.

The mass shooting may help some to leave that are already here
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Maybe this will help deter some of these freeloaders that are planning on coming here.

The mass shooting may help some to leave that are already here
The illegals and a few others that promised they’d leave if Trump won, but are still here.
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At one time there was a rule that said immigrants could not collect welfare benefits for the first five years. I sometimes hear people use that to counter the fact that most surveys of illegals say they come here for the freebies.

If someone migrates here, it should be to work. Years ago whenever someone sponsored an immigrant, the sponsor was legally and financially responsible for that person.

Trump is not actually doing anything new. Check this out. It's dated 2/25/2009 .

Summary of Immigrant Eligibility Restrictions Under Current Law

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Qualified aliens are ineligible for SNAP for a period of 5 years beginning on the date of an aliens entry into the United States. (Sec 402 (a))
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Most qualified aliens who enter the U.S. on or after August 22, 1996 are ineligible for SSI until they become U.S. citizens, which generally requires at least five years of residency.
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III. Federal Public Benefits

Aliens who are not qualified aliens are ineligible for Federal Public Benefits.
A. Examples of aliens who are not qualified are:

Non-immigrants (temporary residents)
Individuals here on time-limited visas to work, study, or travel.
Undocumented immigrants
Individuals who entered as temporary residents and overstayed their visas, or are engaged in activities forbidden by their visa, or who entered without a visa.
Others
Individuals who are given temporary administrative statuses (e.g. stay of deportation, voluntary departure) until they can formalize permanent status, or individuals paroled for less than one year, or individuals under deportation procedures.
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:56 AM
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if it were up to me, i wouldnt allow access to public welfare programs until someone has been legally in the US for 5 years. you have five years to figure out how to take care of yourself and your family. if you cant do that, you dont belong in this country unless you have disability/illness issues that precludes you from working..maybe even 2 jobs.
I would add that welfare programs are just like birthright citizenship: a benefit given by the United States. I have for many years supported the permanent and irrevocable elimination of birthright citizenship to children born on U.S. soil to parents who are illegal aliens, and I likewise support restricting access to welfare programs to those who are here illegally and even those who are here legally but came without the means to support themselves.

This isn't cruelty. This is spurring people to get themselves going by pulling their own bootstraps. America isn't an inexhaustible cornucopia of free stuff.
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The liberal cult is frantically aiding and abetting the invasion of marxist hordes because it will give them complete victory in their war on America; they know this and they see the end in sight.

Supporting those who come here from the third world with money stolen from taxpayers is the abetting part of aiding abetting. It should have been stopped a long time ago.

There should be no federal welfare period. It's all illegal according to the 10th Amendment (but I guess the law doesn't matter anymore). It's legal for state or local government to do it if they want, and that's the right way for it to be done.

At least not giving welfare to the marxist hordes streaming in is a huge step in the right direction. I'm glad Trump finally got around to doing his duty.

This is an example of Trump being hated by the liberal cult because of his loyalty to America.
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